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video credit - Jaileyisiconic

Imagine going under your daughter's ex post on his wedding day (1 year after his marriage) and liking a childish post done by some random 14 year old or that like mentality person....Just to reheat the ship..and then daughter comes and releases a song ( not written by her btw) framing herself as victim and painting the wife as a villain and fostering as much hate she can for the couple ...just so that she can benefit from the clout of the wedding.

This just tells me how selena's mom had major role in pushing selena to pursue popular teen guys for attention and publicity , I mean selena was 16 -17 when she basically pushed herself between nick and miley ( also i am not saying nick wasnt equal contributor)...with the hopes of becoming the teen IT couple miley-nick was or to finally want to get out of miley's shadow in terms of somthing...But seems like didn't go as planned and nick was overly private with her compared to miley...considering selena's mom was a momanager and so involved in her career ..it was obvious who was behind all this..

Then JB comes into the picture ,the new teen heartthrob and i dont think when selena started going back behind him in 2010 ..even she and her mom would have imagined how big JB gonna become ..and she got so much popularity due to that.

And the whole thing that " scooter and her mom set them up" seems really true ,...to scooter Jb was just a cashcow , and he didnt want to affect his market by a relationship but he thought things would have sorted if he could put Jb into a relationship which can be marketed , and thats how scooter and selena's mom interests matched ..she just wanted selena to have publicity..and scooter wanted a relationship for Justin atleast at that point that he could sell, so he doesnt jave to fear about hiding it as with jasmine

There are lot of arguments goes on that ya they were a PR couple but they start to have real feelings..lol i think its all false...selena never had any real feelings for Jb ever ...she always knew she is getting into relationship for her own benefit.and publicity...there was a reason why JB childhood friends could see through her and said on his face that she is using him ...Only Justin thought its real to the point to get a tattoo..he is definitely naive as hell ..no wonder so many people took advantage of him over the years.

She only got cosy with JB on award shows (cause no one gave her relevance if not as biggest popstar Girlfriend on VMAs and AMAs) or in front of papz camera..you can see in fan recorded videos ..how she treated Justin ..absolutely like a trash..there is a backstage video from Selena's concert ..you can see Justin is standing next to selena ans he wearing her merch T shirt..and selena gives this whole speech and thanks everyone and acknowledge different people..however and she doesnt even acknowledge Justin's presence ,..she doesnt mention his name once during speech ..neither she looks at him once..and when the speech gets iver he leaves she also doesnt care ..the only thing she must have cared ..that he is in the event and there ill be headlines that Justin attended his show..thats all.

And all the mess up stuff she used to do on social media with girls Justin was seeing or involved wasnt cause she has feelings for him..but she was insecure of her place of being perceived as girl JB loves in the public..that gave her insane desirability and relevance in media and that was the only attention she cared...thats why despute their whole PR getting over in purpose and revival era ...she couldnt stop herself for commenting under JB post about sophia rechie ..cause Justin said he would deactivate his account if people didnt stop hate on her ...something he never said or did about selena and that threatened her ..." The position in the media and infront of other people"..not in reality..she didnt give F about reality ..she also knew Jb has different life and what was all going on after 2012..anyone can see if they do 2+

Selena's PR however did this whole act that how selena's mom doesnt approve of Justin ..bla bla..all of that was part of character they played..when in reality look how she was liking such comments..jelenators and selenators still think selena said no to Justin on his proposal due to her mom and thats why he went to hailey ..lmao...when her mom here liking jelena comments

And thats why selena went out of he away with such strong PR campaigns..to establish a narrative that Selena was the one who got away and Justin still loves selena..cause that what gave her so much relevance that she could never loose it ..and thats what she cared ..not for actual Justin ..she also knew he was in love with hailey..(wasnt it obvious when they were doing therapy in december 2017 apprently ober hailey ..and maybe selena over her own past relationship with weekend..just to fake infront of Justin that she is in same place as him)

Something selena must be doing cause her mom wanted initially , she completeley turned into same person her mom was and wanted selena to become...

Selena half life story is just her mom loving through her...and later selena did so many F*ck ups on her own and wronged so many people thats she cant go back and change anything ..( specially the one with Francia..that vant be reversed, its not just mean girl stuff but pure evil )

Thats why like dont you guys wonder sometimes ..that "was selena always this bad and evil she has been in past years and we didn't see or she just turned like this over the years "..to me it doesnt seem she was always this bad and horrible..she was just regular teen girl not too nice or too bad..who had been worked by her mom since childhood and eventually her mom controlled so many parts of her career..she kept doing wrong things for her own benefit and out of selfishness, insecurities ,etc..and then she came too far and became the worse version of herself.

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This is 28th May 2013 ,Hailey was with Kylie , Pia Mia ,willow smith amd other friends in NYC

I guess this is the version of Hailey which Justin used in confident Music Video , plantinum blonde hairs with Black Leather jacket and chewing gum ,this was her signature style in 2013-14, Isnt it so obvious ,

Video Credit : @/ itsallbouthailey (insta)

In june , a girl in her podcast revealed that how she met Justin and Hailey and then when she complimented them ,Justin said " Thank you" and " she is the most important person in the world to me"..

And everyone on the internet loosing their minds amd doing mental gymnast that " i dont think he said that" .." He must have said something else" , "he might have said for his mom"( cause the girl added his mom pattie listens to her podcast)

And in 2 weeks after that meltdown ,Justin annoumced his engagement with Hailey lol 😭😂.

Its been 8 years of their marriage , I mean near to a decade .

And people still use out of context blurred pictures of them to project their own version of story and narrative onto them and then judge their relationship based on that assumed narrative.

At some point its gets to a point They need to leave them alone,It feels like an ibsesseion that they want them to fight or argue or something ...so they choose these out of context pictures or cut those 2 secind clips and chop them with zoom in zoom out, repeating same clip hundred times and slowing down or speeding up the way it works to tell the narrative..

Like they will slow down the grammy red carpet to emphasise every micromoment ,and will speed up the time when justin gets out of car and left the door open and and swings back in original video but in sped it seems he bangs back with force ..thats how the context and narrative beinv pushed since more than half a decade.when they started making their public appearnces after covid.

Isnt it harrassment at one point.

They are so cute, young and hot in this.❤️

Selenators themselves believe that when Justin uploaded the girl he was seeing for a while in 2014 in a certain dress which somehow also worn by selena on some red carpet ( again we dont have dates all these pulled straight from gossip by these loosers) , a news outlet replrted that he just got her shopping and whatever dress she wanted to wear ..he didnt even have to do anything with selena..

According to them Justin wanted to make selena insecure about her looks and body ??

First look how its based on their pure imagination and its mere speculation ,and 2nd the fact its 12 years ago , 3rd just based on this they are completely bashing justin to the point celebrating his traumas in life and if ang fans are replying even joking about all Diddy controversy and alleged SA happened with him in replies,

This tweet is quoting a troll to selena which according to them made by some justin fan in 2014

Well , selena openly admitted to make Justin cry in 2013 , do u think beliebers wont gonna hate her and the fact selena bullied a girl who was justin fan for her looks on facebook.

On the contrary how she used to like posts about shading the girls Justin used to hang out with ..she even liked post shading hailey back in 2015 where they were saying how being curvy like selena is better than hailey as having flat belly ..and their bikini pictures side by side ...if she is so insecure whats justin fault??

And also whats their obsession with Jelena ...just cause they can easily make her victim and as the timeline isnt clear so whenever justin talk about his general emotional struggle and depression he went through around 19-20( during which he wasnt with selena..he was on his Believe tour and then with other girls in 2014 including hailey for most time )

And they think he accepted to abuse her ..first of all he said abusing the relationships ( not abusive in relationship)they dont understand the huge difference ..he said it for all his relationships friends , family and the reason he said this cause he distanced them all due to his depression...he literally mentionrd in next line.

The way they clearly ignored how he said when he was facing depression and completely misinterpret to prove their point and also Justin didnt even say abusing someone ,they are totally mad.

Also look how they ignored the TMZ article of investors claim and victimising her for something 12 years ago my god...these people are pathetic

Selena stans cant move beyond 2013-2016 ,they are stuck in that era .

Also when they say about justin, just to cope, that "I am happy whats happening with him" to say as if he is living some miserable life

Have they seen selena?? She is khia , irrelevant , doesnt have real friends , she and her mom doesnt get along , already getting sued over scam..married to an ugly pedo , aged like milk..also they say how he is drug addict 😭..they will die but dont see how obvious selena has always been massive drug addict ..she was demi's best friend and you think they both werent doing those heavy drugs together in LA and then she got a minor BF who was also traumatised and eager to get in heavy drugs ..

See how justin got sober in 2014 and wasnt with selena and again took drugs when he reconciled with her druggie ass after his tour in end of 2017..they refuse to see the video..and they were regularly doing meth ...thats why next year in 2018..selena went to rehab and justin was like getting over by himself,

(i dont think he went that deep into meth cause he left her in feb end ..I also think this is the reason he left , cause he realised he gonna end the same place he was in 2014 when he was almost dying..and selena continued and went to rehab ,imagine doing meth just after your kidney transplant and then later let your toxic fans bully the same girl and watch silently )

hailey said she almost lost patience that it will ever got fine about back in 2018 when they were in brooklyn( she said it in 2020 or 2021 btw ) ..They waited to get justin completely well to get the wedding finally which happened after a year.

Like their fav life is all over the place from years and they are projecting that on Justin to cope

I know they make the perception from those papz videos who he hates and the edited ones which they themselves make and forward for false narrative...they dont see his social media or anything else .

The fact popstars are able to perform with fever ,cold ,fatigue and taking anxiety pills..and you cant tell and her fans here pulled every excuse to defend her talentless ass.

When she is just stoned or drunk and doesnt know how to sing.