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These pictures are from end August 2014 and around that time when justin and selena were apparently on a trip to ontario ...

Selena album and lead single released just 2 months after that which was about break up ??

She made the break up song in 2 months 😭😭

I remember the promotion time she said how these two songs ( apprently about break up) are the last she added in the album ..Lol girl stop !!!

I mean they had so many breakups in the public that no one fucking cared on which break up she made 😂😂😂

How anyone took Jelena seriously it was just a whole as PR and even if you try to take it real their timelines seems like a joke cause who the hell keeping tabs on these ?

Also like how she pushed a narrative of Jistin cheating on her in 2014 and earlier same year she was caught making out with orlando bloom who was with katy perry ?? girl you have no right to ethically blame someone when you are morally corrupted yourself ..I hate her so much

But the reason why obviously it was a PR cause when Justin and Hailey went on date, their first date very early of 2014 and could be even December of 2014 ...( cause she said she used yo live with parents at that time ,and she said in 2014 she moved out of her parents house and lived with her sister until her 18th birthday which was later that year )

Hailey shared a picture once after their marriage and said throwback to 2014 ,and its bizzle era and its not late 2014 when hailey and justin started spotted together and Justin had platinum blonde ,its clearly very early 2014 when justin still had his baby fat ,you can look at his face ,and even hailey looks younger than her late 2014 version.

And on 29 April 2014 Justin Hailey and kendal went for lunch in NYC and apparently Hailey was sitting on his lap as so many people said on twitter who witnessed them ...Just 2 days before be had made a post from.central park, NYC about proposing his future wife and Hailey lived in NYC and they even went in Central park , multiple times ( Selena never had any residence in NYC )

Then look how involved Justin was in Hailey's life when she was moving in or whether its her birthday holding cake for her and buying TV for her ,then them spending new year holiday like a couple.

So ya basically Justin-Hailey were involved since she was 17 ,it has been discussed by themselves and whatever way ,non exclusively ...cause they wer long time friends before i guess.

But Hailey in Call her daddy ,herself said anytime they were together or even if hooking up Justin was not in any ither relationship.And she adds that there is a truth which people dont know .So ?? Its obvious Jelena was a PR after 2013 ,we know selena's PR team goes as far as staging pictures

And among selenators or many people its a narrative that Hailey was just ready to be that other girl whenever he broke up with selena ...which seems so opposite of how she was with Justin , cause as been discussed by both Justin and Hailey ,the reason of their split in early 2016 was Hailey ,something she did which hurt Justin and she accepted she did something really stupid ..

In one of insta lives Justin and Hailey did together in 2020, Hailey told that she was hurt when Justin was like he needs to go on tour so he wants to be on his own for now on till the tour and then they will officially start relationship and she was all like being an independent woman she doesn't wanna wait for anyone amd thats why she just acted up on her emotions ..If she is like this why the hell she would put up with him being some another relationship even if its on-off ??

Their dynamics is actually opposite what people portray...Justin said "I was always into you mor than you were into me " ..but the popular narrative is Hailey was a fan of Justin who was obsessed eith him and chased him ,that also leads them to make wrong guesses to fill the gaps between the story , everyone fills and try to understand with their own bias ..and thats why all selenators stick with that explanation...And i dont think justin and hailey side care that much until recent years cause of too many rumours..like stalking theory and all ....Cause at the end of the day they are married who cares ,nothing gonna change

But selenators are still so passionate even after so many years and have always been ,cause this is something which makes Selena the VICTIM if this isnt true than how will they take sympathy and prove that selena was the ultimate victim wronged by Justin and Hailey.

I mean for her illness also get ,but like the drama js the kne people are interested ..only illness wont have given her that much ..cause I have seem so many celebs who suffer illness , I mean Justin and Hailey themselves gone through so much health tragedies ..no one cared ..so its more her public relationship VICTIM cause they project their own feelings as well .

Also I have already made a post how from scooter side to push this was cause of Justin's controversies and scooter didnt wanna loose this jelena brand ..like it must be back and forth ,favour for another favour..so if justin team used for journals so selena team will use for her release

.But this selena girl always had release every year in every half , so it kept getting stretched ..and unlike in justin's case where the most it was an insta post or interview mention ..selena team did who act and stage play.

In 2013-2014Justin really got booed in award shows ...journals flopped commercially , and diplo said hwo when he decided to take Justin in where are you now there was initially a polarising opinion ..media had totally written him off ...and When with Purpose Justin reclaimed everything even in way bigger and better manner ..then be was finally free from this Jelena PR ..thats why after the time when company released and he made that throwback post about jelena in march 2016 around that release , fiest he never ever made a post after that ...and second thats the reason he was so annoyed and mad at selena when she tried to come under his comment section during sofia richie insta feud ..he was on edge of revealing jelena being a PR.

But the worst was he himself went and gave a golden ticket to selena to use Jelena shit for a whole decade , when she made the kidney transplant public and it coincided with time when he wss going through break up with Hailey and Hailey was seeing shawn ....and not only that he literally engaged Hailey in a month of reconciling amd married in less than 4 month of that..

(Look how even actually together with selena for these 4 months nov 2017-feb 2018 justin didnt post any of her picture , but he used to do when he wasnt even with her back in 2014-15, thats cause it was part of marketing )

And I know selena PR team was already must be happy and knew how they needed to spin the whole thing after her being on the edge of getting washed up when she lost DJ snake collab of LMLY to Justin and then her 2017 music flopped at that time.Sje literally revived her career in 2020

Also ,how funny is it that despite being such a big PR couple ,she never appeared in any official music video of Justin ,like its Jasmine Villages ,..(the girl who was made to feel humiliated for her status when despite dating almost a year she was not allowed to make her relationship public amd selena get to do in just less than 2 months )

and now Hailey his wife

I am lile so much for being PR lol..after 10 years when people will watch music videos,there is nothing about jelena..Like atleast shawn and camilia have the iconic senorita music video ,case they are also blamed to be PR couple

Here is a throwback of Hailey attending the Never Say Never premiere in NYC , as the red carpet video trending everywhere.

Hailey is just 14 here, she looks so classy and pretty already ,she always had the foxy rich vibe and I love her for that.

If you will ever come across a selenator online and get into slight argument ,the way they will always be coming back with the " well selena is billionaire" card ,that you can see how dumb they are and why they stan her.

If you tell them how much of khia she is or how irrelevant her career is as compared to any of her peers ,they will be like who cares ,selena only sings as a hobby and she is more of an actress ( The way she sucks and is flop at both ) and will say selena is a billionaire she doesn't need to worry about all this.

Like are you stanning her cause of her net worth ?? Does she pay any of that you all ,imagine stanning someone for their net worth.

If they dont use this card first it will be only if they are fighting with beliebers and hating on hailey and justin but will still end up saying ,selena can buy both Justin and hailey and will still have millions left ..and add laugh emojis ,cause they seem out of mental asylum obviously.

It also tells you how stupid they are . For selena who thrives on PR I wont be surprised that she pays websites to fake her company's valuation ,so she have something ,I mean a private company's valuation is never gonna be real in public ,its always an estimation , and thats based on revenue only cause thats the only data which is in public for a private company.

No one wants to openly tell their personal net worth in public cause no one wants to get taxed, 90% of Selena's public net worth is literally out of Rare beauty valuation.she has 51% equity in that company. And she will easily make it public cause none of that money she actually have ,and you cant be taxed on that money unless you have actually realised gain ...and her fans are such loosers to fight with others over this cause all others also have a lot of money actually more money than selena when it comes to have actual money which can be used and thats why no big artist ever update their net worth after a certain limit ,They really believe Justin has only 200 million dollars since 2014.

And the whole Justice tour cancellation and him selling catalogue ,started this theory of him being broke is so stupid..Do they even know how big of a tour it was ,its cancellation obviously gonna led to debt of around 60-100 million dollars to organisers and I really think Justin used this opportunity to get out of all the past contract he would otherwise wont have got chance to come out of.And everyone sells catalogue nowdays ,he didnt even have much of share in those cause when he came he didnt use to write and produce his own music its great he sold them and starting from SWAG he own 100% of everything he does.

And coming back to selena's Rare beauty ,I have honestly no idea why, only a 5 year old beauty brand have so many products , like its seems they are over producing so that they can have more revenue , more revenue will show more valuation in public but what about profits and sustainability in market.It seems as if this company is managed by 15 year olds who have no idea about business.

Even Rare beauty marketing has took so much advantage out of selena's drama with biebers and selena's victim image.

And dont forget the 1% of revenue used in charity ..like"1%"??? And no one calls it out ,its as if making joke of doing philonthropy ...better just dont do it all together rather than doing for just sake of it