r/AIWritingHub

Is this the right line to draw?

I love writing stories and spend hours every day using generative AI apps. For me, creation is entertainment itself. If you're looking for inspirations for AI assisted creations, hope this is helpful.

1. Povchat AI

What it is: AI story writing platform with unlimited characters and scenarios, good for fan fiction or interactive stories.

Pros:

- Really good storytelling-focused AI models, and the memory can last across thousands of turns.

- Large library of characters and long definition support, so you can create your own lorebook for original characters.

Cons:

- Some bots are poorly written and you need to choose carefully.

- Images generated are all anime styles while I hope it could be realistic.

2. WhatIfArt

What it is: AI anime maker for visual stories, with their unique format.

Pros: It's easy to make your own stories of your favorite characters with the presets.

Cons: Sometimes the AI generations are going another direction.

3. Sekai

What it is: Like TikTok but for mini-apps. You can create your own through vibe coding and share with friends.

Pros:

- Some games are fun to play, and the TikTok style makes me keeps scrolling.

- Easy to navigate around and find something that suits your interests.

Cons:

- You only like it when you are a gaming person or interested in coding.

- Can get tired when you have to make an effort to interact with everything.

Would love to try if you're building something! Let me know what you're up to.

"If you pay someone to build a chair for you, you are not a carpenter. A carpenter has a set of tools that they learned to use as they developed their skill. When you can use those tools to make your own chair, then you are a carpenter."

Ok. I don't entirely disagree, but your analogy has a flaw: What about people who don't solely have the AI generate EVERYTHING? What if they generate some parts, but write others?

It's like the Ship of Theseus:

Is a carpenter who buys dowels for his mostly homemade furniture a carpenter?
Does he have to craft his own glue from raw materials?
What if he buys legs and the dowels for a chair from a third party?
What if he an accomplished carpenter who has turned to only crafting the seat of a chair and buys the backing, legs, dowels, etc?
What if he buys ALL pre-made parts but reshapes them? Does he lose his card-carrying capacity?
If so...at what point?
What kind and level of construction/compositing is unacceptable as a craftsman?

And what about a person in a factory churning out furniture, partly by hand, but using forms for shaping: are they a carpenter?

And about ships directly: If engineers program machinery with the specific intent of having those machines build ships, they have to account for all the ship building skills needed, but without ever directly making a ship themselves. Are they ship-builders? Their job is to make sure ships get built. It's not like supplying the riveters and welding equipment. Those aren't ship specific. The knowledge of ship building is. If they use the full scope of ship-building knowledge to make sure ships get built, aren't they ship-builders?

Is a welder a ship-builder when they don't use all the necessary knowledge needed to build a ship? Few involved in ship-building are...and yet they ARE ship-builders.

I didn't use AI to write any of this. Note that if I haven't, how I led with the greater case of engineers of ship-building machines being ship-builders. People might be more inclined to agree, but then argue anyone not using the full scope of ship-building knowledge isn't a ship-builder. But then the argument of someone without all that knowledge being a ship-builder also holds weight. And that philosphical/logic trap should in my mind cause back-pedaling to accept both arguments. But what if I had constructed strict rules in a prompt to generate that structure? Does that invalidate all the logic and good philosophical trapping?

Are the architects who use the rules of ship-building, but never dirty their hands in the trial-and-error process of building with their hands, ship-builders? They ARE necessary for a large ship to be built to a high safety standard. Their blueprint forms a prompt for other humans to act on in a massively parallel fashion...

What about writers who have never written a novel solo, but come together to write one... Are they novelists?

So then why is a person using AI and writing knowledge to have THE AI generate prose directly, but based on their (IDEALLY complex) rules not a writer?

But there are some seemingly weird areas, especially with an example of visual art:
Hologram stickers

Engineers and manufacturers come together to use tools to make holograms out of work that isn't their own. I FELT more comfortable calling a AI prompter a writer even if they solely prompt the AI to generate text itself directly based on their stringent rules... but hologram engineers and manufacturers being considered artists?

Well... isn't a team of people coming together to produce that holographic sticker still required to turn another piece of art into holographic art? Yea... SHIT!

A composer prompts musicians. A conductor prompts an orchestra but never uses the instruments directly while doing so. He is prompting a team of musicians to make music... but he's not a musician? How?

Maybe the real benchmark of any artist or manufacturer or whatever is intent:

Is a "writer" who manages to craft a bestseller a Artist if they solely do it for money and couldn't care less who the book touches?

Is an AI prompter who composes strict rules for prose and structure, new ideas for the sake of making people fall in love with the piece, a writer? What if they try to make money as well, so they can keep making such content with the primary driver being to inspire love in the ART?

What if the threshold of economics starts to hammer their humanity, and makes the primary driver the secondary?!

I specifically came back in and capitalized Artist, but not writer. Why? Because that's my artistic choice. But what if an AI made that mistake for me, and I CHOSE not to correct it?