r/AIWritingHub

I see lots of comments like, “You use AI and you call yourself ‘a writer’?”

It makes it sound like my goal is to post Instagram photos with me sitting in front of a laptop with captions like “I’m a writer; be impressed.”

My goal is to make money by self-publishing novels that people want to buy. That’s it.

My goal is not be a poser who struts around trying to convince people to attribute some prestigious label to me.

Does the “writer” label matter to you? Is labeling anything (e.g. AI-assisted vs AI-generated) something you find important enough to spend significant time on?

It‘s a Pucca fanfiction, I know some of y’all are gonna make fun of me, go ahead. But please at least read it I promise its at least somewhat interesting.

also, I’m sorry if Im misusing this subreddit

also this story isn’t finished

My views on AI detectors and a simplified interactive explainer about how AI text watermarking works.

My question is: If AI helps write a story, how much creative involvement does a person need to have before they can be considered the author?

I have been seeing more books, stories, and other types of writing being made with the help of AI, and it made me start wondering what actually makes someone an author. I think there is a difference between using AI for small things, like helping with grammar or coming up with ideas, and having AI write most of the actual story.
For example, if someone comes up with the characters, plot, and overall idea but uses AI to help write parts of the story, I would still probably consider that person the author. But what if AI writes most of the story and the person only gives it instructions and makes a few changes? At what point does the person stop being the author?
I’m asking this for a digital literary studies course because I’m interested in how AI is changing the way we think about writing and authorship.

I got so thrilled that I wanted to share this somewhere! It is not selling atm so I am not making money; its a side hustle experiment. 🐼

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I have a 1 star as well with no comments :P.

I use ChatGPT and google docs, with a lot of self made GPTs to write and review over and over and over. I have not figured out how to get it done in one pass. I tried "vibe coding" a whole book production suite but I could not get it down right so am back at using multiple GPTs.

Hey everyone, I an fairly new to using AI and I have a story I am writing where I have gotten about 32 chapters into but the AI i was using is nearing the limits of its conversational memory so it has started to make errors. Does anyone know of the best AI I can use where I could upload everything written so far and then get it to continue from there? I dont mind if its paid or free, but i want to be sure im using the best option if I am paying money. Thank you!

For the last month I have been trying to come up with a system that will help with my Fiction Novel that I have trying to write with the help of AI. I have been using ChatGPT to help brainstorm Ideas about a book and asking it questions on how it can help me stay organized while writing if this one Novel becomes a series. We have talking about saving information in files and I can look back at it when I am not actively writing or developing with My AI. What I would like to only use free AIs at this point because I really can be spending money month subscriptions. I am trying to use the ChatGPT to brainstorm the Ideas and Copilot as a Record keeping and Document storage. I would like to integrate using Libreoffice for the Writing the Documents, OneDrive to store the documents to look at on my laptop and my Phone when I would like to look over information. When I ask to pull up information that is from just a day or two ago from either it does not pull up all the discussed and approved content. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to do this using these apps/programs with the AIs assisting doing either part of this. I don't want to lose the Notes on Characters, World, plot, timeline, developments or any other documents I would need. Thanks for any help you can provide. I am also not opposed to using a different AI as well.

I only used AI occasionally for following some fun trends or a little bit of fact checks. But somewhere around May or June, I got curious and decided to share my brainstorm of my OC (original character) series that I always imagined in my head ever since as a child (more than my dreams in real life). I was expecting some simple feedback but I guess it really encouraged me to actually make something out of it.

Now I know that ChatGPT has yet to make movies and videos, but it was able to not only make some of the most amazing artwork just from my imagination, pinterest boards, and small sketches, but it made the entire universe and the storylines something that can actually happen in real life (that is if I had the guts and one billion dollars to bring it to life). As of now, my universe consists of a Kamen Rider tokusatsu inspired series 📺🦸🏻⚔️, two movies from that series, and another installment that is a movie musical 🎥🎬🎶

It truly has become addicting and I had some of the most fun I’ve ever had for a long time. It has made some of the funniest commentary that made me laugh so hard and other times it has made me cried out of being touched by my own stories.

And just to note, I still do have a **“life”**: I work a full-time job, go outside once in a while, and live in my parents’ house to help out my widowed mother and to save money in hopes that someday I will actually move out. However, it has given me more passion from my actual in real life passions and works of social media content and a bit of music.

So with that being said, let me know if you guys are interested in maybe seeing my “work”. Otherwise, go ahead and say I’m *crazy* and I need help. Finally, to all the actual artists out there, I *truly apologize* and don’t wanna take credit away from you at all \~ 😅😂🎨🖌️💕

I am outlining a Chinese urban web novel and have just completed one working outline. I have not started saving chapter manuscript text yet.

What I am trying to solve is not “how can AI write a novel in one click?” I need a way to keep the project direction, character notes, setting notes, the current outline, and the next chapter-planning step visible together so I can revise them when one decision changes.

For those who plan long-form fiction: what do you review before turning an outline into chapter plans? I am especially interested in how you check causality, character knowledge, unresolved setups, and the point where a plan is ready for drafting.

In a comment, I said:

The traditional publishing industry is at a bad place. Wait for traditional publishing to get to a better place (or self-publish).

There are (a) no standards, (b) people accuse others of AI use without proof and (c) agents/publishers shoot and ask questions later.

I’m a traditionally published author too and I won’t even consider traditional publishing until they get their act together.

What could the traditional publishing industry do to "get their act together", even if it's an outright ban on using AI in any way?

1. What would the standard be?
2. What would be the mechanism to prove that AI was used or not used?
3. What would be enforcement to prevent agents and publishers from reneging and abandoning authors over unfounded AI accusations?

For example (just a junk example to demonstrate, this is an intentionally stupid proposal):

1. No AI prose generation
2. Authors must use certified software with full audit tracking (or not eligible traditional publishing)
3. Standard contracts in which agent or publishers pay a fee for reneging or abandoning authors; agents and publishers must register with an industry-wide association that publicly lists their reneges/abandonments and the penalties they've paid

Hi, writers, I genuinely need evidence-based, judgement free advice.

I am a traditionally published writer with a established track record and have published a few books in my genre traditionally.

I have used gen AI for brainstorming, research, outlining and refining my text (although I don't allow the model to draft, nor take its suggestions.) All of my prose is mine and I am very careful about this as I am concerned about copyright.

For the record: I have not published or tried to publish anything that I used AI to work on. Yet.

I understand the conversation about ethics, etc. Some of my past projects have been used to train models.

I'm genuinely worried about the ambiguity of AI in publishing right now, and the lack of boundaries. I'm also a POC which is another layer of worry as many authors in that space have paid the price for or been accused of using AI.

I have completed two very marketable projects, with AI used in the capacity I described above. I don't have an agent at the moment, but I want to query to someone who has expressed interest in my work in the past. I love these books; the first is a re-write of a book that I wrote six years ago, well before ChatGpt came on the scene, and I believe that using the tools I used really helped in the novel's revision, acting as a developmental editor.

At the moment I feel my options are:

1. disclose from the get-go to the agent and (potentially) get the project killed
2. don't disclose and potentially get caught, in a J. Falade type of situation,
3. kill the projects myself and write something else
4. Or self publish, which I don't have the time, inclination or money to do (my previous publications are in a different genre.)

At this point I wish I'd never touched the software. Other books will come, I know that, and I will be more circumspect with future projects. But in the early days, I had no idea that publishing would begin to react to AI use so vehemently. And I am so in love with these books, even though they started as experiments.

Thank you in advance for your kindness in taking a moment to comment. I'm open to candidness, but please be objective, and not rude, as I think there might be other authors in my situation. I'm also posting in a couple other subreddits so please excuse any duplication.

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Basically, I have a bunch of ideas, but no time to write them.

Which Al can help me turn, for example, a 3000 word summary/ideas/settings into a 100,000 word full story?

I'm not planning on monetizing it, by the way. I just want to read it for my own amusement.

I tried chatgpt and copilot but always got stuck in small niche details that it got wrong which would have been important in the story later on.

And should I post my ideas here so someone can turn them into story?

Aight, thanks.

Let me try this again.

When I posted “Writing with AI isn’t going away… ever”, several anti-AI writers commented that AI writes badly, nobody buys it, is unethical, has no soul, should be disclosed, rots your brain, isn’t copyrightable, won’t get an agent, proves you are a bad writer and so on.

Even if that’s all true, writing with AI still won’t go away… ever. AI will part of the writing landscape, there will always be people who write with AI and some of those AI books will get some sales.

AI will get better ($100B+ in AI model research each year) and more writers will use it (if only to find synonyms). Also, anti-AI forces will get tired, will be slow to market and be progressively outcompeted.

As an AI-using writer, how to you foresee AI being deeper woven into writing, how to you see writing with AI getting greater acceptance and how will you leverage early adoption of this technology to gain a competitive advantage over writers who don’t use AI? Do you expect that to be forever or is there a limited window?

NOTE: As usual, anti-AI and other junk comments will be removed and their authors may be subject to bans.

I always love a good old Reddit tool thread.

So what is the best ai tool to write full books (end-to-end, prompt-to-book)?

- Romance

- Biographies

- Non-Fiction

- Children books

- ...

I have been happily using ImagineYourBook a lot lately but I guess it doesn't harm to keep looking around.

AI-generated prose doesn't have to be good to be useful.

When an AI-assisted writer brainstorms with AI, not every idea that AI comes up with has to be a gem. The (human) writer cherry-picks the good ideas and ignores the bad ideas and, sometimes, a bad idea leads the writer to a good idea. AI still "assists" even though it isn't an infallible oracle where the writer just sits back and blindly accepts whatever AI says.

It's the same for AI-generated prose. AI writes a lot of mediocre prose but that doesn't mean that it's useless. Like AI-assisted, AI sometimes generates some good prose mixed among the bad. The (human) writer cherry-picks the good prose and replaces the bad prose and, sometimes, some bad prose can be quickly improved to turn it into good prose.

A writer doesn't need to sit back and treat every piece of AI-generated prose as perfect or unusable trash. Writers can be selective. Writers can edit.

This is why the "AI-generated prose is bad" argument doesn't make sense to me from a logical perspective. (It makes sense from an emotional perspective, though.)

I use AI-generated prose because, even though I have to be selective and have to edit, it works well enough that it's faster and better than NOT using AI-generated prose at all.

It's not about laziness or low standards. It's about efficiency. I've figured out a way to make AI-generated prose work well enough for my purposes such that I can work more efficiently with the tool than without it.