r/AccessoryNavicular

Finally got it done!

Finally got it done!

Hello sub, after almost a year of managing main due to Posterior Tibial Tendinosis, I (24M) finally got the surgery to remove my (type-2) AN and to advance and reattach the tendon to the navicular on the 14th.

Some history: The pain has always been there but I’d managed to run 5ks twice every week. Last year it worsened after an ankle sprain (after I overdid myself and ran a 10k). The ankle sprain never really healed completely. Radiologically - the ATFL showed thickening as a consequence of chronic injury and the medial foot showed a bipartite type-2 accessory navicular bone which caused mild posterior tibial tendinosis. I also have an os trigonum; but it has been asymptomatic. After more than a year of conservative management - physio, and a corticosteroid injection there hadn’t been much progress so the surgeon finally recommended surgery.

The surgery also included an arthroscopic procedure to repair the ATFL and remove any inflammed tissue. I’m now 4 days post op and have been doing well. I’d initially anticipated the pain to be much higher but I haven’t needed any strong painkillers after day 2 (day 1 I was on a nerve block). It also helps a lot having the best wife in the whole world 😊 (stole this from a past post on this sub but what’s true is true :p)

The limited mobility is a challenge but I was prepared to walk with crutches. It feels a bit weird seeing the toes of my left foot so much more reddish than my right. Any idea of when this subsides? Can I expect to make short trips to the mall/outdoors on a wheel chair at the end of week 2 without much swelling?

Cheers!

u/perpetualdreamer7 — 4 days ago

3rd flare, now 2 weeks of not being able to walk. Mixed opinions from doctors. Help?

Some context: I've had custom orthotics for flat feet since I was a kid. also have EDS so my feet ligaments are wonky. I have a right-only type 2 AN (6mm with edema as of April 2025). I had an injury early 2025 that caused what we now know was an AN flare which led me to need a boot and brace for several months. I did the arch strengthening PT. I was no longer bracing by Aug but was still doing PT. I finally built up to biking again around Jan 2026 and continued my balancing exercises. Overall I'm have been very aware of my arch when standing without insoles.

At the end of March, the pain returned. Some mornings I woke up (esp if my medial foot was flat on the bed) w/ excruciating pain and tenderness, unable to walk. It often improved during the day, but overall I ended up mostly walking on the outside of my foot to avoid pain. I figured it was an overuse injury from changing from winter boots to running shoes. I wanted to keep wearing my winter boots for support but I couldn't bc they press on my navicular and malleolus. I saw the podiatrist on Apr 20, who said it was probably an overuse injury from the shoes + increase in activity. Made a little adjustment in my orthotic. He reminded me the PT protocol, said to come back if it got worse.

On May 1, I suddenly woke up being unable to walk or bear weight. Pain + tenderness at both the navicular and the medial malleolus. I kinda freaked out bc I couldn't even put my foot on the floor and booked a bunch of appointments to get in to whoever would see me first.

I saw the DPM again on May 5. He did an ultrasound and found: "Partial tear of the spring ligament. Accessory navicular syndrome and medial column instability of the right foot." He said to wear the boot for at least another 2 weeks but if it takes longer, don't rush it. Come back in a month.

I had an appt w an ortho doc today for a 2nd opinion (and after learning about the Kidner on this sub I wanted to hear his thoughts). I explained the injury/pain and briefly told him about the suspected ligament damage. Offered the ultrasound results but he didn't read it. He said that I have adult onset flat foot disorder, so follow the Alvarez protocol (ideally ASAP, but after I can bear weight) and get orthotics. I told him I've had flat feet all my life and I wear custom orthotics but have not had arch issues until last year with the injury. I then commented ab the navicular. He said that ANs are common and it's rare that they cause pain. He said if we determine the AN is the culprit and all non-op things fail then we can consider surgery but we aren't anywhere near that at this time. I should continue to wear the boot until the 1 month mark and start PT when possible.

I also got a 3rd opinion at a sports medicine place last week thanks to my frenzy. Said I have to strengthen (fair) and that the pain is out of proportion to the injury so it's probably CRPS (lol??).

I am relieved that ortho doesn't think I need surgery but also am worried bc I am starting an intense program at school in the fall and I can't afford to have this recur or have a surgery after school starts. I'm feeling uneasy not bc of his non-operative recs (PT has truly saved my life) but bc I don't really feel like he actually listened or "got it"? Like the DPM thinks it's ANS and frankly I agree, but the ortho doesn't. This is my 3rd recurrence of a flare in that area, and it's by far the worst. I still cannot bear much weight. The DPM said on the ultrasound the interior muscles seem hypertrophied so he's not worried about strength, rather he thinks the muscle bulk might be compressing the area.

I have had bad injuries in the past that have had a similar initial prognosis but ultimately didn't heal, requiring procedures after way too much suffering (hello proximal tib-fib instability). I really want to avoid that again.

Has anyone had success with PT in cases like these? Any other recs?

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u/TrilingualWorrier — 9 days ago

I Don't Trust the Surgeon

I live in rural NZ and the local medical system is thin on the ground.... only one foot and ankle surgeon in our area. I was told, as a child, that I had flat feet and an extra bone. I've had symptoms consistent with AN for almost 20 years, ie inflammation of the PTT. However it hasn't shown up in X-rays. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to get anyone to review X-rays to see if the this is real, or a product of wrong viewing angle or inattentiveness on the part of the radiologist. After much fussing I got an appointment with the local foot and ankle surgeon. He didn't even look at X-rays and ultrasound, but did look at my foot and gait and had me do a one foot heel raise (which I can do). He recommended reconstructive surgery for adult acquired flat foot (I've had flat feet all my life and still have some arch) and glossed over the AN question, saying "if I find one I'll probably remove it". He brushed away my question about Kinder procedure.

I would really like to be without foot pain. But there are enough stories about failed surgery, and the recovery is so demanding, I am not willing to commit.

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u/sandgrubber — 11 days ago
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758 days post surgery to full foot function

I twisted my ankle badly in the 1980s when I was a teenager playing basketball and was told it was just a bad sprain and to get on with it, no x-ray given. I hobbled around for a few months with it strapped, then adapted my gait etc. Fast forward, I turn 50 after a very physically active life, and find that sprain was actually a fracture of the navicular, from which grew a bone spur which destroyed the ligament holding up the arch. I was also getting knee pain. On 12 April 2024 I had a left tibialis posterior ligament reconstruction, medialising calcaneus osteotomy (heel cut in half and moved), excise of a level 3 navicular tuberosity, and tendon advancement (flexor digitorum longus - which operates the two little toes) which was repurposed and threaded through a hole drilled in the navicular and sutured using polyethylene Arthrex FiberWire to the remains of the posterior tibialis tendon).
Because I had walked on the outside of my left foot for 37 years, twisting my hip around and back, it has taken me 758 days of rehabilitating it almost every day to get back to full function because I not only had to stretch out and realign ligaments in my foot, but also twist back into alignment my lower right back, left hip, inner right knee (still have some nerve impingement there), underneath outer left ankle, and back behind inner side of left ankle, plus an awful lot of Achilles tendon work.
I had the giant screw removed from my heel in January 2025 because it was bothering me.
I did lots and lots of stretching, yoga, ankle weights and desk treadmill, and weightlifting which helped set gains from stretching and yoga. I also did a lot of walking in soft sand at the beach and also on the sloping harder sand both directions to stretch out ligaments at the sides of the ankles and Achilles, because my heel was cut and moved. Barefoot shoes with arch support inner soles for out and about.
I just want to advise that recovery is a long painful journey, but never give up.
I'm ecstatic and wanted to share this good news!

u/MigraineZero — 14 days ago

Slides recommendation for ANS

Hi guys, I've been looking at different options for shoes to wear at home since ANS diagnosis - and wow there's a lot of options and mix reviews.

Big brand names that I often come across are the Oofos, Hokas Ora's, Archie's slides.

Wondering if anyone owns these and are they worth it? Open to consider other brands as well!

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u/Peanut_Unfair — 14 days ago

Physiotherapy only or try for surgery?

Hi everyone! Only recently was I made aware that I have an accessory navicular bone in my right foot.

In a word of introduction- for years it was asymptomatic, then one day in March I woke up with huge pain in my foot. Several times before, I had twisted my ankle, once in the metatarsus, so I thought I must have stood incorrectly the day before and had to re-twist the old injury or something, but to be honest, I don't recall anything like this happening.

Okay never mind, moving on, I went to the doctor. Even before doing the X-ray he suspected the accessory navicular from the way my foot hurt, and it only confirmed it. He told me to take sick leave at work and to rest my foot as much as I could, but he also said that it would probably end in surgery. I did that, but to this day my foot hurts (not constantly but often) and is swollen all the time. I went to an MRI also and after getting the results he said it's not as bad as he thought it was and I should go for physiotherapy for now and come back to him in a year to see how it looks.

But the thing is, where I live if I want to have this physiotherapy paid from the national found I'll have to wait for like 2-3 months and will get a week, maybe 2 if I'm lucky. I will go for it, but the waiting list for the surgery is even longer - 2 years if one is lucky.

So I think my question is, should I press the doctor to issue a referral for surgery or is physiotherapy capable of healing that irritating little accessory bone?

u/Kathomgerine — 13 days ago