r/AspectsOfTheInfinite

TIL there are finitely many positive integers

A quote from u/Massive-Ad7823 (this community's sole moderator):

>Me: N - is famously infinite.

>Them: But it cannot be actually infinite. 

Next time a child tells you that it is possible to keep counting forever, make sure to call them a fool!

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u/Various_Candle9136 — 1 day ago
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The touchstone of reason

Every natural number n has an endsegment {n+1, n+2, n+3, ...}. The first endsegments are

{2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, ...}

{3, 4, 5, 6, 7, ...}

{4, 5, 6, 7, ...}

...

Some defenders of set theory claim that the intersection of all endsegments is empty while no endsegment is empty. I call this statement matheology, a touchstone of irrationality.

Regards, WM

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u/Massive-Ad7823 — 4 days ago

An alternative axiom system for the set of natural numbers, IN, by Erhard Schmidt

N is assumed to be a non-empty ordered set such that the following axioms hold:

(1) Any non-empty subeset of N has a smalles element.

(2) Any element of N with the exception of the smallest has an (immediate) predecessor, which also belongs to N.

(3) N has no largest element.

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This axiom system has the nice feature of explicitly "rejecting" the idiotic idea of Mückenheim, that there's a largest element in N.

Source: Hans Rohrbach. Das Axiomensystem von Erhard Schmidt für die Menge der natürlichen Zahlen. Mathematische Nachrichten, vol. 4 (1951), pp. 315–321.

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u/NoCouple7442 — 14 days ago