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How Frostbite Changed So Much in just 2 Years: Battlefront 2015 vs Battlefront II Comparison

Previous BF 2015 specific post for better Context:
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBattlefront/comments/1vmwb25/the_frostbite_engine_in_star_wars_battlefront/

TL;DR Battlefront II offered 4x more lighting density, more realistic tonemapping, and damn good image quality for TAA standards. Battlefront 2015’s strengths are more subjective as the higher contrast “filmic look”, specific artistic choices, and better asset quality still make it many people’s personal favorite.

The first thing to compare is the lighting system.
In BF 2015, they used a semi-dynamic GI system to provide interactive lighting artist workflows. Later on, DICE would develop a custom system called Flux that utilized an offline path tracer in the editor to bake indirect lighting. It is important to note that direct lighting (other than the sky) is done dynamically in BF II. Frostbite engineers realized that Battlefront II could use this more elaborate method to get 4x more lighting density than Battlefront 2015:
https://www.ea.com/news/precomputed-global-illumination-in-frostbite

With the power of modern affordable hardware, I would prefer if the lighting systems would look more like this:
https://youtu.be/SnNm7rSSvlg?t=2985&si=fhWTICkmQeJWzWIQ

BF 2015 applied a “filmic” tonemapping curve that provided a high contrast look to the game. Expecting a shift in display technology, DICE decided to develop a new method called Display Mapping for BF II where the game would calculate HDR values to be referenced in a LUT and eventually sent to your type of display. Battlefront II’s tonemapping is more realistic compared to real world reference than the Battlefront 2015 version:
https://www.ea.com/news/high-dynamic-range-color-grading-and-display-in-frostbite

Battlefront II’s Display Mapping Compared to other Tonemappers:
https://youtu.be/SnNm7rSSvlg?t=4253&si=e_JJHKNrQWzOY0BY

Battlefront 2015 on PC offered a not so perfect TAA, a blurry FXAA, and an AA off option. Battlefront II has forced TAA but the here implementation is competent. This is due to high quality motion vectors and accurate reprojection logic as well as minimal use of past frames. This all leads to a good resolve with no smear and no ghosting trails. On the console versions, both games use TAA so BF II wins there by default.

Now for some rapid fire topics. Battlefront 2015 used more photogrammetry than Battlefront II. Lucasfilm provided DICE with a whole load of digital assets however there was still a lot of photogrammetry work done on places like the Naboo Throne Room:
https://youtu.be/5LHB-n9AMR4?t=578&is=SjxrLX2rIQzX_Ozj

I’ve seen claims about how BF 2015 stores lighting info in the textures. There is no evidence to back this up and the devs even disproved that in the GDC 2016 Battlefront Photogrammetry Presentation:
https://youtu.be/U_WaqCBp9zo?t=1077&si=C_8e8hVODVaNjNT3

u/Traditional-Shoe-660 — 5 days ago
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Another Cronus User

These guys are so obvious…the constant hopping around, perfect headshots (basically insta-killing everyone) every time no matter how they are spinning midair during their hopping, spinning 360° in an instant and back around (good luck doing that with a controller), and the list goes on an on.

I’m normally a “you play your game, I’ll play mine” kind of guy, but console MMO FPS games are for those who use controllers…not keyboards, mice, and Cronus Zen.

If you wanna play keyboard/mouse and use Cronus then go play on PC with the rest of the cheaters and leave MMO FPS console games to those who use the controller, as intended.

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u/RedditModsFknSuck — 3 days ago
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New here, been getting back into BF2 lately, love most of the modes, (I don’t like the obviously onesided galactic assault maps). But one mode I’ve noticed is just a cesspool of unfun toxic players is heroes vs villains.

And no Patrick, it is not a “skill issue” or I need to “get better” with half the entire enemy team attacking me, and then taunting as if it takes actual skill.

u/Tight-Medium-8448 — 5 days ago
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I'm done with this game

Started in 2020 and it was my favourite game till 2025. All units at max lvl and most of the heroes over 450 with around 3k hours. But I can't do this anymore. Every session the same dang problems. Everything is unbalanced as hell. Take supremacy for example: era of resistence is dead but the First Order is dominant, the Empire is also far stronger than the rebellion. Now to the most balanced era: Republic. Both sides have good heroes and good reinforcements and it is possible to win as the Republic. But only under two circumstances: 1st you have a very competent team or 2nd the enemy team is very incompetent. Otherwise you will always loose. And that's because of players abusing broken mechanics like the destroyers who can roll around an outpost and contest it the whole damn time because of damage reduction. Or just roll through at shipphase. Or Bossk players barricading whole hallways with 2 buttons (especially fun at enemy spawns on shipphases seemingly). And on top of all that comes the ton of toxic players who's goal seems to be destroying the fun for others. Im always angry after a session, so I deleted it. Bye to the ones who are good ones. Hope you have fun. Maybe we see us in Helldivers 2 or hopefully a new Star Wars Multiplayer Shooter some time in the future

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u/BactaAddict08 — 8 days ago