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Byzantium is being changed to Eastern Rome in Turkey

(Sorry if this has been discussed before, I couldn't find it in earlier posts)

https://greekcitytimes.com/2026/05/19/turkey-erases-byzantium-from-student-history-books/

Apparently the Turkish Ministry of Education has decided to change some names in the curriculum. One of the changes is Byzantium to Eastern Rome. I found it amusing. All those endless discussions about the naming of Byzantium and Turkey just goes bam it's East Rome now, deal with it.

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u/Gustianus-Krixus — 1 day ago
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Anastasius the Librarian and the shaping of western negative perceptions towards Byzantium

Anastasius the Librarian (810-878 AD) was the chief archivist and librarian of the Church of Rome. Despite being well educated in the Greek language, he was passionately anti-Greek and had made it his mission to "reclaim" the heritage of the Roman empire from its current unworthy custodian "The Greeks" of the eastern empire. In his mind, the Latin West was the proper owner of that tradition and had to reclaim it from "Greek falsity". He made a point of identifying the Latin language as a core part of Romanness (Far more so than any of his precedessors ever did, if they ever did so at all). His writings would have ramifications for the public perceptions of Byzantium in the west that would carry over right to the present.

Anastasius was employed as a translator and ghostwriter for various Popes and by Carolingian emperor Louis II. This gave him the opportunity to voice his views on imperial / ecclesiastical texts and dissemate them widely thus influencing western attitudes. This was also during a time when the papacy was reconstituting itself as a secular authority and attempting to formulate itself as the legitimate Roman authority and "the ruler of the entire world".

From one of Anastasius' writings:

>"The Greeks have ceased to be emperors of the Romans on account of their bad opinions when it comes to religious faith. Also, not only have they abandoned the city and the seat of the empire [Rome] and the language itself [Latin], having migrated in all ways to a different city, seat, people and language [Greek]"

The view in which the city of Rome never lost significance was a new innovation and this sort of attitude presupposed that the eastern Romans werent Romans at all, merely despicable "Greeks". (And not even as the famed Greeks antiquity, who were viewed positively in the West, but rather as devious "modern" Greeks)

There is a widespread belief that Hieronymus Wolf is a sort of devious villain that saught to delegitimize the Eastern Roman empire by conjuring up a new exonym in his writings and that this led to widespread misconceptions in subsequent centuries. However it was not Wolf, but rather Anastasius the Librarian whose polemics had lasting significance and would shape western attitudes of Byzantium and ultimately lead to its downfall and subsequent "orientalisation".

Further reading: Phantom Byzantium by A. Kaldellis

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u/GrandDukeNotaras — 3 days ago
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Praetorium prefaectum of Constantinople

Praetorium prefaectum

Hello, I would like to ask whether it is possible to find any sources regarding this building?

I can find only bare reconstructions (from magazines/printed illustrations I guess)

Maybe someone knows where I could find the sources?

P.S. At some sources it’s stated/displayed that there was a cistern.

u/Gustianus-Krixus — 3 days ago

Though the Byzantine empire fell in 1453 its east African successor the great "Abssinian empire" didn't fell untill period of African colonization.

For context the Ethiopian abyssinian empire was a African Christian empire which was also known as the "Afro-Byzantine" empire.

u/neo-shitposter365 — 4 days ago

Whos a better "Bulgar slayer" (NOTE:Not trying to offend bulgarians cause i know the consequences.)

Context:Basil might have been called a "Bulgar slayer"( BOULGHAROKTONOS) but he never killed bulgarian civilians during war times but vlad the impailer AKA (Vlad tepes, Kizlikibey, "voivode TURKAKTONOS") a 15th century wallachian/Romanian ruler claimed that he killed bulgarian civilians & Mainly Turkish civilians as his nickname "TURKAKTONOS". Source :Vlads letter to hungarian ruler mattias corvinus.

u/neo-shitposter365 — 7 days ago

Who did you think this was about?

For he was both prone to evil doing and easily led astray -- both knave and fool, to use a common phrase: he never spoke the truth himself to those he happened to be with, but in everything that he said or did there was always a dishonest purpose; yet to anyone who wanted to deceive him he was easy meat. He was by nature an extraordinary mixture of folly and wickedness inseparably blended.

. . . [he] was dissembling, crafty, hypocritical, secretive by temperament, two-faced; . . .lying all the time; not carelessly, however, but confirming his undertakings both with his signature and with the most fearsome oaths, when dealing with his own subjects. But he promptly disregarded both agreements and solemn pledges

A treacherous friend and an inexorable enemy, he was passionately devoted to. . . plunder; quarrelsome and subversive in the extreme; easily led astray into evil ways but refusing any suggestions that he should follow the right path; quick to devise vile schemes and to carry them out; and with an an instinctive aversion to the mere mention of anything good.

Procopius' description of the Emperor Justinian

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u/NkhukuWaMadzi — 9 days ago