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What Will it take to Convince People that UFOs are Important?

What Will it take to Convince People that UFOs are Important? UFO historian Richard Dolan has described the initial reaction of many people to his passionate involvement with the subject. They express interest, might even describe something they saw on TV concerning the phenomenon, and then after a few minutes of his well-informed explanations, their eyes gloss over and they are clearly bored.

THE ROLE OF AUTHORITY FIGURES

Yes, it’s true; opinion polls indicate the public is interested in UFOs, now officially called UAP. Advertising executives have long known this, but the fascination is for most part quite superficial. Why is this? I suspect that it is because prior to the winter of 2017 most authority figures have essentially said that there’s nothing to it.

After all, the world is terribly complex. Thus, we rely on authorities to use vast amounts of data to make what we hope are reasonable decisions. Most people have little understanding of the technological “miracles” that science has achieved, but they are grateful and trust the devices, like planes, autos and computers to work reliably.

Needing to trust leaders, I suspect, might be built into our psychobiology. For a million years before civilization was established, hunter-gatherers worked in small groups to survive. Shamans that could use primitive psi abilities combined with careful observations of nature played important roles. Leadership was a question of life and death. Those clans that had the best leaders, the shamans that knew how to most best hunt animals, find healing herbs and deliver babies, played critical roles in survival. Thus, most of us have a strong tendency to “follow the leader” and when this becomes extreme, “We the People” run the risk of becoming, “We the sheeple.”

LINKING UFOs TO SOLUTIONS FOR MAJOR PROBLEMS

For the UFO question to have a truly major impact on the mass consciousness, this subject will need to be transformed from an entertaining diversion and become a way of addressing the seemingly insurmountable problems our planet is facing. This is already being attempted by those within the UFO community that discuss the possibility of downloading into our technological culture the secrets of the energy propulsion systems of flying saucers. So-called “free energy” in one fell swoop might eliminate poverty and pollution, possibly even reversing global warming and ending world hunger.

Of course, for the so-called ETs to give us such devices, they might understandably insist on a peaceful transformation of our planet to replace what Ufologist Stanton Friedman called our perpetual state of “tribal warfare.” In the past such a proposition was an impossibly “hard sell” because military and political leaders, the mass media and academia all in service to ruling elites repeatedly insisted, “There is nothing to it.”

HE WHO PAYS THE PIPER CALLS THE TUNE

Clandestine forces determined to keep a lid on the UFO issue have been called “the control groups.” In the past, they employed a strategy of recruiting authority figures to block any significant discussion of flying saucers. Opinion makers that stepped out of line found that their access to funding would be cut off. This was done behind the scenes and has been quite effective in my opinion.

In the USA, the National Academy of Sciences made it perfectly clear that UFO studies are not part of the “legitimate” agenda for professional science. Scientists that stepped out of line could find themselves unable to secure grants thus ending their careers. This has now changed somewhat with the Galileo Project headed by Harvard astrophysicist Avi Loeb. It should be mentioned, however, that Dr. Loeb’s UAP detection project is reportedly supported in such a way so as not to take money from traditional scientific financial backers. Heavens forbid a UAP investigation might divert funding for “real science.”

In broadcast journalism in the past, talk show hosts that might inform the public in a detailed way about flying saucers could find themselves without corporate sponsors. We should not forget that major newspapers are controlled through their editorial boards that in turn are dependent on commercial advertising to continue publishing.

This analysis of the social mechanisms of the “UFO Truth Embargo” is not a conspiracy theory. I merely describe the way power works. In the former Soviet Union, it was the political dictatorship of the Communist Party that attempted to regulate almost every aspect of people’s lives. That social experiment failed miserably. In the West, however, social control is far more sophisticated, decentralized and uses the knowledge of social psychology called “public relations” to effectively manipulate the masses.

RESISTANCE TO CHANGE ALSO COMES FROM WITHIN

On the individual level, our tendency to identify with our thoughts leads to profound attachments to old ideas. This resistance to changing one’s point of view flows from the ego itself. “Ego” in this context means identification with thought forms.  People strive to defend their religion, political ideology, or moral customs to the point where some would even kill to maintain them. Just look at the present situation in Middle East, or at the millions killed centuries ago during the Spanish Inquisition and the Protestant Reformation in Europe.

Something similar in my opinion applies to acknowledging that an “ET” and/or “interdimensional” explanation for the flying saucer phenomenon might be true. Such a realization threatens to radically change the conceptual paradigm of our entire civilization. Since humans so strongly identify with their present beliefs, it is understandable that many reject such a brave new worldview in which we might have to accept a potent non-human presence.

UFO INTELLIGENCE HAS A TIGER BY THE TAIL.

What about the intelligences responsible for flying saucers? Could “they” (whoever they ultimately turn out to be) simply fill the sky with structured craft? Or stage the proverbial “landing on the Whitehouse Lawn?” Such actions would certainly convince the masses that flying saucers are of the greatest importance. In my judgment, this scenario is the least likely to ever take place. Given the militaristic mindset of our civilization, a sudden realization of the reality of UFOs could be catastrophic. My guess is that careful gradual efforts to alert us of their importance is the game plan of both the intelligences responsible for the phenomenon and some elements of the establishment as well. I recommend Grant Cameron’s book “Managing Magic.” He shows how the US Executive Branch has pursued a gradual acclimatization project which runs in parallel to the coverup. 

So, what will it take to change mass public opinion on the flying saucer question? If the alleged “ETs” continue the present pattern of interactions, millions of individual sightings yearly interspersed with occasional massive waves, I imagine that there will be opportunities to slowly build public awareness by a responsible program of education.

RESPONSIBLE PROGRAM OF PUBLIC EDUCATION

This will require UFO enthusiasts to discipline the crazies in our midst, think creatively and most importantly of all build stable, well-financed organizations to carry out the educational campaign. All this will need to be done in opposition to the control groups that have great experience in manipulating public opinion and putting their spin on the limited disclosure efforts that has been going on.

“TURNING PAGES IN A PLAY BOOK”

Can we trust UFO intelligences to follow what we imagine is their existing “game plan” of gradually alerting humanity to their presence? I suppose not. UFO researcher Michael Lindemann once said that we should never assume that we can think like the so-called “aliens.” Nevertheless, the ever-changing pattern of interactions, as pointed out by UFO researcher Grant Cameron, appears to be as if the aliens have been turning the pages of a “play book.” This can be seen by the appearance of “Men in Black” in the 1950s, so called “alien abductions” starting in the 1960s and followed by crop circles reported in Southern England and then all over the world. While all this has been happening, tens of thousands of contact experiencers have described mental interactions with flying saucer intelligences. Many of these individuals are instilled with a sense of mission and are striving to convince their fellow “Earthlings” that we should look up and accept what our eyes are seeing.

In my judgment, UFO intelligences will continue to present us with new and creative ways of waking us up from our collective stupor concerning their “wonders in the sky.” I believe their presence is non-harmful and very likely beneficial for mankind. Bringing others to this hopeful perspective, I imagine, is a challenge that many contact and disclosure activists will continue to face for some time.

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What Will it take to Convince People that UFOs are Important?

UFO historian Richard Dolan has described the initial reaction of many people to his passionate involvement with the subject. They express interest, might even describe something they saw on TV concerning the phenomenon, and then after a few minutes of his well-informed explanations, their eyes gloss over and they are clearly bored.

THE ROLE OF AUTHORITY FIGURES

Yes, it’s true; opinion polls indicate the public is interested in UFOs, now officially called UAP. Advertising executives have long known this, but the fascination is for most part quite superficial. Why is this? I suspect that it is because prior to the winter of 2017 most authority figures have essentially said that there’s nothing to it.

After all, the world is terribly complex. Thus, we rely on authorities to use vast amounts of data to make what we hope are reasonable decisions. Most people have little understanding of the technological “miracles” that science has achieved, but they are grateful and trust the devices, like planes, autos and computers to work reliably.

Needing to trust leaders, I suspect, might be built into our psychobiology. For a million years before civilization was established, hunter-gatherers worked in small groups to survive. Shamans that could use primitive psi abilities combined with careful observations of nature played important roles. Leadership was a question of life and death. Those clans that had the best leaders, the shamans that knew how to most best hunt animals, find healing herbs and deliver babies, played critical roles in survival. Thus, most of us have a strong tendency to “follow the leader” and when this becomes extreme, “We the People” run the risk of becoming, “We the sheeple.”

LINKING UFOs TO SOLUTIONS FOR MAJOR PROBLEMS

For the UFO question to have a truly major impact on the mass consciousness, this subject will need to be transformed from an entertaining diversion and become a way of addressing the seemingly insurmountable problems our planet is facing. This is already being attempted by those within the UFO community that discuss the possibility of downloading into our technological culture the secrets of the energy propulsion systems of flying saucers. So-called “free energy” in one fell swoop might eliminate poverty and pollution, possibly even reversing global warming and ending world hunger.

Of course, for the so-called ETs to give us such devices, they might understandably insist on a peaceful transformation of our planet to replace what Ufologist Stanton Friedman called our perpetual state of “tribal warfare.” In the past such a proposition was an impossibly “hard sell” because military and political leaders, the mass media and academia all in service to ruling elites repeatedly insisted, “There is nothing to it.”

HE WHO PAYS THE PIPER CALLS THE TUNE

Clandestine forces determined to keep a lid on the UFO issue have been called “the control groups.” In the past, they employed a strategy of recruiting authority figures to block any significant discussion of flying saucers. Opinion makers that stepped out of line found that their access to funding would be cut off. This was done behind the scenes and has been quite effective in my opinion.

In the USA, the National Academy of Sciences made it perfectly clear that UFO studies are not part of the “legitimate” agenda for professional science. Scientists that stepped out of line could find themselves unable to secure grants thus ending their careers. This has now changed somewhat with the Galileo Project headed by Harvard astrophysicist Avi Loeb. It should be mentioned, however, that Dr. Loeb’s UAP detection project is reportedly supported in such a way so as not to take money from traditional scientific financial backers. Heavens forbid a UAP investigation might divert funding for “real science.”

In broadcast journalism in the past, talk show hosts that might inform the public in a detailed way about flying saucers could find themselves without corporate sponsors. We should not forget that major newspapers are controlled through their editorial boards that in turn are dependent on commercial advertising to continue publishing.

This analysis of the social mechanisms of the “UFO Truth Embargo” is not a conspiracy theory. I merely describe the way power works. In the former Soviet Union, it was the political dictatorship of the Communist Party that attempted to regulate almost every aspect of people’s lives. That social experiment failed miserably. In the West, however, social control is far more sophisticated, decentralized and uses the knowledge of social psychology called “public relations” to effectively manipulate the masses.

RESISTANCE TO CHANGE ALSO COMES FROM WITHIN

On the individual level, our tendency to identify with our thoughts leads to profound attachments to old ideas. This resistance to changing one’s point of view flows from the ego itself. “Ego” in this context means identification with thought forms.  People strive to defend their religion, political ideology, or moral customs to the point where some would even kill to maintain them. Just look at the present situation in Middle East, or at the millions killed centuries ago during the Spanish Inquisition and the Protestant Reformation in Europe.

Something similar in my opinion applies to acknowledging that an “ET” and/or “interdimensional” explanation for the flying saucer phenomenon might be true. Such a realization threatens to radically change the conceptual paradigm of our entire civilization. Since humans so strongly identify with their present beliefs, it is understandable that many reject such a brave new worldview in which we might have to accept a potent non-human presence.

UFO INTELLIGENCE HAS A TIGER BY THE TAIL.

What about the intelligences responsible for flying saucers? Could “they” (whoever they ultimately turn out to be) simply fill the sky with structured craft? Or stage the proverbial “landing on the Whitehouse Lawn?” Such actions would certainly convince the masses that flying saucers are of the greatest importance. In my judgment, this scenario is the least likely to ever take place. Given the militaristic mindset of our civilization, a sudden realization of the reality of UFOs could be catastrophic. My guess is that careful gradual efforts to alert us of their importance is the game plan of both the intelligences responsible for the phenomenon and some elements of the establishment as well. I recommend Grant Cameron’s book “Managing Magic.” He shows how the US Executive Branch has pursued a gradual acclimatization project which runs in parallel to the coverup. 

So, what will it take to change mass public opinion on the flying saucer question? If the alleged “ETs” continue the present pattern of interactions, millions of individual sightings yearly interspersed with occasional massive waves, I imagine that there will be opportunities to slowly build public awareness by a responsible program of education.

RESPONSIBLE PROGRAM OF PUBLIC EDUCATION

This will require UFO enthusiasts to discipline the crazies in our midst, think creatively and most importantly of all build stable, well-financed organizations to carry out the educational campaign. All this will need to be done in opposition to the control groups that have great experience in manipulating public opinion and putting their spin on the limited disclosure efforts that has been going on.

“TURNING PAGES IN A PLAY BOOK”

Can we trust UFO intelligences to follow what we imagine is their existing “game plan” of gradually alerting humanity to their presence? I suppose not. UFO researcher Michael Lindemann once said that we should never assume that we can think like the so-called “aliens.” Nevertheless, the ever-changing pattern of interactions, as pointed out by UFO researcher Grant Cameron, appears to be as if the aliens have been turning the pages of a “play book.” This can be seen by the appearance of “Men in Black” in the 1950s, so called “alien abductions” starting in the 1960s and followed by crop circles reported in Southern England and then all over the world. While all this has been happening, tens of thousands of contact experiencers have described mental interactions with flying saucer intelligences. Many of these individuals are instilled with a sense of mission and are striving to convince their fellow “Earthlings” that we should look up and accept what our eyes are seeing.

In my judgment, UFO intelligences will continue to present us with new and creative ways of waking us up from our collective stupor concerning their “wonders in the sky.” I believe their presence is non-harmful and very likely beneficial for mankind. Bringing others to this hopeful perspective, I imagine, is a challenge that many contact and disclosure activists will continue to face for some time.

 

 

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u/Contactunderground — 2 days ago
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Contact?

I woke up this morning with symmetrical puncture wounds on both forearms. No idea how these occurred and weren't there the morning before when I had a shower.

Could this be evidence of some kind of contact?

u/Pelagicus-Redit — 8 days ago
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Are Human Appearing “ETs” Operating on Earth? A “Contact Download” suggested to me that perhaps they are.There is a fascinating literature about human appearing ETs living among us. I even thought I might have met one at the Los Angeles International Airport

Are Human Appearing “ETs” Operating on Earth? A “Contact Download” suggested to me that perhaps they are.There is a fascinating literature about human appearing ETs living among us. I even thought I might have met one at the Los Angeles International Airport when I took Dr. Greer there in February of 1994. This was before Ingo Swann published “Penetration." In that book Swann describes meeting a beautiful humanoid ET being pursued by shadowy black ops types that were monitoring her activities. The man allegedly in charge of the surveillance was the mysterious intelligence official called "Mr. Axelrod." If I recall correctly, he described her as "one of the most dangerous people on the planet."

Two months before taking Dr. Greer to the LAX, the CSETI leader met with CIA Director Woolsey in December of 1993. The day after the meeting I experienced "an awake dream." I believe this might also be called a “contact download.” I had the experience while I was in my on-call room near the emergency room. After an overnight shift, I needed to get some rest before I hit the 405 Freeway that would take me home. I did not fall asleep, however. The “download” was like watching a movie in my mind. It was so detailed, so intense, that I cannot totally convince myself it was merely my imagination. Even though I was part of the CSETI leadership, the details of the meeting with the CIA Director were highly confidential. I was only told that the Dr. Greer would be meeting in Washington with a " very highly placed government official." 

In the "awake dream" that I experienced in my on-call room, I was shown three different ETs that were supposedly highly specialized in various aspects of interacting with humans. The experience was like a tutorial and was given by rather tall ET with grayish skin who served as “my instructor.” 

He had on a very high collar that reached up to the back of his head. It reminded me of a priest’s ceremonial garb. I called him “MM” for “Middle Management.” He stood in a lecture hall behind a desk. Behind him was a large jet-black viewing screen that reminded me of the chalk boards used in colleges. We had a telepathic exchange in which I suggested that since I was a CE-5 Working Group Coordinator and he coordinated some aspect of contact operations that we were sort of like “colleagues.” His reply was forceful and swift. He left me with the impression that in no way was I an equal in my capacities and responsibilities compared to his position. 

In one part of the "download" I found myself at the entrance to the main terminal at Washington National Airport. It was early evening, cold and with a light snow in the air. The phone booths on the sidewalk were the glass-walled cubicle type so popular prior to the 1970s.

A short, somewhat husky brunette, dressed in a Navy-blue stewardess’ uniform was walking quickly toward a phone booth. I noticed that she wore silver wings on her heavy wool overcoat indicating some kind of company insignia. The cold wind tussled her short brown hair that peeked out from under her blue cap. Behind her she pulled a wheeled luggage bag. Inside her overcoat in the inner pocket, I could actually “see” her travel documents. Passport, tickets, and visas, they seemed to be “in order.” There was just one catch. The documents were all phony! I understood at the level of knowledge that she was not working for an airline. She was not a stewardess. In fact she was not even human! And she was not alone on her mission. 

My “ET mentor”, who I called MM, “explained” to me that her assignment was a highly specialized security mission. As she stepped into the glass-enclosed phone booth and closed the door behind her, I thought that if she were supposed to be one of the so-called Pleiadean or Nordic types of ETs then somehow, she had short changed. According to UFO subculture mythology, as a Nordic ET she was supposed to be a striking beauty; tall and slender with long hair was the stereotype that I was accustomed to. This woman in the phone booth appeared quite physically fit (an appropriate attribute for a member of a security detail) but she was not tall and not pretty.

As I looked at the stocky “stewardess” inside the telephone booth, the marked contrast between my preconception and what I was “seeing” was bewildering. MM must have sensed my confusion and his explanation was simple and direct. I was made to understand that for security missions like this one at Washington National, operatives were required to alter their typical appearance. Elegant beauties in scanty shimmering garb would not blend in at a chilly airport-loading zone.

All these thoughts and images flashed before me in an instant. I watched the female security agent enter the phone booth. She left her wheeled luggage on the pavement outside. She removed the receiver as if she were making a phone call. Instead, she linked up telepathically to a co-worker in the security assignment.

His appearance was as striking as hers was plain. This physically powerful man was clearly the enforcer. His muscular form looked like it was ready to explode out of his double-breasted, gray-colored oversized trench coat. This agent was stationed inside the terminal several hundred feet away from her. 

He stood in one of the small drab waiting areas that made the old airport look like it had fallen on hard times. He was clearly playing the role of a passenger waiting for a flight, pacing back and forth and impatiently looking at his watch. At the level of knowledge, I understood that he was carefully monitoring a complex security situation at the main terminal. 

The thought occurred to me that he was some kind of bodyguard and that he was waiting to meet someone important at the airport. I strongly suspected that he was armed and perfectly capable of using force if necessary. It seemed however that he also possessed the sophisticated psi capabilities that one might expect from an “ET intelligence officer” of an advanced civilization.

Subtle parapsychological methods were his preferred defensive weapons. If enemy agents threatened whomever he was protecting, then he could telepathically arrange for the opposition to suddenly be distracted, thus allowing the target of their surveillance to slip by unnoticed.

Who could be the person that he was supposed to protect? Why was I “seeing” in my mind this little drama at the Washington Airport? 

I didn’t focus on these questions while I subjectively acquired this material. I was more excited about the prospect that this entire channeling experience was not merely the result of my imagination and that it represented bona fide interspecies communication. Thus concluded this “awake dream.”

After getting home from the hospital, I was eager to share my experience with trusted contact workers. I decided to call Shari Adamiak, Working Group Coordinator for CSETI Denver. She was in my opinion the third most important person in Dr. Greer’s organization, after the Director and Emily Greer.  Just before I spoke to Shari, while half giddy from sleep deprivation from an overnight on duty, it suddenly hit me like a bombshell. The individual that MM’s “Pleiadean friends” were assigned to protect must have been none other than CSETI founder Dr. Steven Greer! 

 Just the day before he had been scheduled to meet with a “high government official” that turned out to be CIA Director Woolsey. Flying in from North Carolina, Dr. Greer would have landed at National Airport. If some MJ-12 like organization had wanted to place a tail on him or carry out some other mischief, Washington National was the best place to intercept the CSETI Director. Although it seemed like a long shot, I couldn’t ignore the possibility that Dr. Greer was being protected by “the ETs” as I was shown. Even if the narrative were pure ego-based fantasy it still was quite a story for me to receive in such a novel way. This is particularly true because over three decades of pro-contact advocacy, I can only recall having one dream with a flying saucer theme. 

Two months later after a brief visit to Los Angeles to meet with potential donors, I drove the CSETI Director to Los Angeles International Airport. While in the waiting area with him, I recalled my “awake dream” that was set at Washington National, now called Ronald Reagan International Airport. I couldn’t help but wonder whether it was possible that human appearing ETs might be at LAX to provide “back up” for Dr. Greer. 

 I realized that such a notion was likely just fantasy. As I had these thoughts, however, I noticed a rather unremarkable airline steward looking at me rather nonchalantly. He was about five foot seven, with brown curly hair and a round face. There was nothing unusual about him. I wondered if it were possible that he might be part of an “ET security team.” As I had this thought, our eyes met and he nodded to me. I realized that his gesture was likely nothing more than just a polite way of acknowledging a total stranger in a public setting. Or could it have been something else? I quickly turned away. I bid Dr. Greer farewell and he boarded the plane that took him home to Asheville North Carolina.  

The idea that extraterrestrials are living among us is a popular science fiction theme that conceivably is more than just fantasy. In 2015 prominent UFO historian Richard Dolan was interviewed Alexis Brooks “Higher Journeys” podcast. Their discussion focused on reports of human appearing extraterrestrials among us. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbVyST3W9s0

REQUEST TO THE READER: If you are an experiencer and have received the kind of “contact download” described in the above narrative, please share that information on these social media pages. 

Comments:

J. Burkes MD: It is hard to know how much of this download is accurate. It could all be a legend created to reassure me and others via my writing that we are being protected in the manner I describe. I believe there is protection afforded to contact workers, I am just not certain if it takes this dramatic form. 

Name Deleted: MM was very superior to you? was there a feeling of condescension? J. 

Burkes MD: Yes, I suppose there was, but given my low level of spiritual development and my primitive thinking it might have been justified. I imagine I was dealing with a very high-powered individual that clearly was helping us, but in no way was he my equal. A seasoned UFO Intel “case officer” running dozens of operations simultaneously would not surprisingly see me as a useful asset, but in no way was near his rank as "colleagues" might be.

(Name Deleted): I had a "contact download" on 12/12/12 that lasted 36 continuous hours. This was the beginning of my conscious relationship with the Star Beings. I was trying to fall asleep on the night of 12/12/12, and as soon as I closed my eyes, I began seeing a slide show in my mind. Image after image of mathematical formulas, apocalyptic images of nuclear bomb blasts, flattened cities, etc. were being downloaded into my mind.

Then more and more mathematical formulas. It looked like hundreds of chalkboards of formulas were being downloaded into my mind. I was reminded of the kind of slide show that my family would watch of vacation pictures as a kid. Only these sure weren't family slides. This lasted the entire night and I did not get a wink of sleep. The next day, every time I closed my eyes the slides would start again. Fast forward to the night of 12/13/12, I lay down, quite exhausted, and closed my eyes and as soon as I did, the slide show images began again. 

Sometime in the middle of the night, I finally asked out loud (and didn't even know who I was asking) "What is going on, and why am I seeing all this? I can't remember any of these mathematical formulas!". (This is significant because I have never had a strong "math mind", and really struggled in college with physics and calculus.) I heard a voice say to me, "You don't need to remember these or even know what this means now, but it will be there when you need it." 

Many more advanced psychic and intuitive skills began developing after this experience, including remote viewing and telepathic communications with ET's, non-physical and inter-dimensional beings.

Kevin Briggs: Hi Joseph Burkes.
That is a very interesting experience. I have not had that particular experience. However a few years ago, not certain of the exact date until I check my notes. I was given information for Dr Greer from two ETs. I do not know Dr Greer and have never met him. I was travelling out of my body on the astral plane.

I was approached by two ETs who have interacted with me from the age of eight. They were travelling in a conscious craft. I was invited aboard. As I entered the craft, I noticed the skin of the craft was conscious. The two ETs were in the craft as pure conscious energy, as I was. They asked me if I would convey a message to Dr Greer, I said I would.

The message was that he should change his itinerary for a specific date as he was in danger. He was not to tell anyone that he was changing his itinerary. I left the craft and returned to my body. I woke up and wrote the message down so I would not forget. I went back to sleep. 

When I woke in the morning, I looked at the note and said I am not doing that. I threw the note in the trash. I thought that would be the end of it.
However when I went to bed that night the same two ETs entered as a dream.  They said it was important I conveyed the message if I did not then Dr Greer would die on that day. I did convey the message although I only informed him he was in some danger and needed to change his itinerary for the particular date. I conveyed the message via a third party, I received confirmation from Dr Greer. I have not had any contact with Dr Greer before or since. There is a more detailed account in my book, but I omitted Dr Greers name.

I am sure the third party and Dr Greer would confirm. I have copies of my emails.

Joseph Burkes MD: Thank you for sharing this information.

Name Deleted: Cool story. I am very suspicious of anything Greer related. But I believe the story.

Joseph Burkes MD: It might be helpful to think of the CSETI Director as a kind of "agent of influence" working with both certain non-human intelligences and factions of the military industrial intelligence complex that are pushing for more openness on this topic. Being an asset in the intelligence counterintelligence drama does not require any individual to be a paragon of virtue. In fact being "ethically challenged" could be helpful when dealing with professional human intelligence case officers who routinely lie, cheat, deceive, coerce and if necessary, betray people when serving their nation under the most stressful conditions.

I was close to the CSETI Director for three years starting in 1992 and I saw how hard "UFO Intelligence "worked him." He was having direct telepathic communication on a regular basis. Astounding synchronicities occurred helping his operations. These included not only facilitating the formation of contact teams to engage UFO Intel under fieldwork conditions, (not an easy task I assure you as a CE-5 Woking Group Coordinator), but also meeting with an array of Executive Branch intelligence groups as part of the President's "gradual acclimatization program" that Grant Cameron has written about in his book “Managing Magic.”

u/Contactunderground — 8 days ago
▲ 15 r/CE5+2 crossposts

Can we consciously initiate contact with anomalous intelligence? I interview Juan J. Fernández López who shares the theory and the proof.

See all UAP Doytime Footage: Link in comments.

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u/ZenMyUnzen — 11 days ago
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Ten years ago I saw a football-field-sized UAP. After years of looking up, I think we are looking in the wrong direction for "Disclosure."

Ten years ago, I was driving to my father's house in the middle of the day. Bright sun, clear sky. I looked up and saw a gunmetal gray object the size of a football field just hovering. Dead silent. Completely impossible.

For years, I tracked the news like everyone else—waiting for government declassification, listening to what presidents and whistleblowers had to say, looking for proof "out there."

But recently, while researching ancient cosmological systems for a docuseries I host, I realized we might have the entire framework backwards.

When you strip away the cultural filters of ancient texts, they stop looking like myths and start looking like operational manuals for consciousness.

* Ancient Egypt/Hermeticism: Describes consciousness descending through dimensional frequencies (gates/planetary spheres) to construct a dense, physical vehicle. "As above, so below" isn't poetry; it’s a technical schematic.

* Zoroastrianism: Outlines the soul as a pilot navigating a material restriction.

* Kabbalah: Maps the Tree of Life directly onto the human biological interface, showing how multidimensional consciousness grounds itself into the physical.

* John Dee (1580s): Using precise protocols to shift consciousness frequencies to contact non-human intelligence (which they called angels, but fits modern contact protocols to a T).

They are all describing the exact same thing in different languages: Your body isn't WHO you are. It’s WHAT you are driving. You are the pilot; your body is the biological spacecraft.

If we are consciousness piloting a biological vehicle, then a UAP is just consciousness piloting a vehicle with different specifications and dimensional parameters. Maybe "contact" is intensifying now because we are finally waking up to what we actually are. They aren't waiting for the government to disclose them. They’re waiting for us to remember us.

I just released a full, cinematic documentary episode breaking down this exact intersection of UAP disclosure and ancient esoteric blueprints. If you want to see the visual breakdown of the texts and the full theory, you can watch it here: https://youtu.be/UUQ3v6_-6Jw?si=3oSY27t7AM8EGpI7

I'd love to hear this community's thoughts. Are we looking too far outside of ourselves for the answers to the phenomenon?

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u/ZenMyUnzenTV — 11 days ago
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Did a Contact Activist Receive an Alien Implant During Fieldwork, or was I the target of an elaborate hoax? Serious

Synopsis: This high strangeness contact event happened during fieldwork 34 years ago. I was present when a foreign body might have been mysteriously implanted into the leg of a fellow contact worker.

The occurrence took place in Joshua Tree National Monument at the base of the Queen Mountain during the early hours of November 11^(th),1993. For over an hour and a half, two anomalous nocturnal lights were seen moving above our research site. UFOs were tiny points of bright light that strobed erratically. The rapid bright flashes alternated with darkness. This bizarre lighting made their flight path to appear as taking small jumps through the sky. These anomalous lights also appeared to obey spoken requests for them to trace out in the sky simple geometric forms like a circle or a triangle. Suddenly during the excitement, my co-worker Misha cried out complaining of right groin pain. He immediately behaved as if he thought that UFO intelligences were responsible for his pain. While looking skyward, Misha asked in Russian accented English, “Why did you kick me in the balls?

When we arrived home my fellow volunteer contact worker gave me to permission to photograph the thigh injury with his Polaroid instant camera. The photo showed a three by three-inch area of purple discoloration adjacent to his right scrotum.  It was an obvious contusion. 

After the encounter, I ordered an X-ray that showed a small wedge-shaped ceramic density body in his right thigh. It was about 1 centimeter across and was identified as “a foreign body” by the official radiologist report that was typed and placed in Misha’s X-ray file. Later my contactee friend complained of increasingly severe discomfort in his right leg. He subsequently alleged that during a visitation by “friendly ETs", they apologized to him for the injury and removed the foreign body. I repeated the X-ray and the foreign body previously noted by the radiologist was described in the official reading as no longer being present. 

Did I witness the placement of an alien implant during fieldwork, or was I the target of an elaborate hoax? For more details the full report can be read at the following link.https://contactunderground.org/2026/05/12/did-a-contact-activist-receive-an-alien-implant-during-fieldwork-or-was-i-the-target-of-an-elaborate-hoax-2/

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