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Mistral Large 4 just beat Opus 5.5 and GPT-6 Astra on cybersecurity benchmarks
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Mistral Large 4 just beat Opus 5.5 and GPT-6 Astra on cybersecurity benchmarks

Hey everyone, Mistral Large 4 just dropped and we've added it to Cline.

One of the most interesting results so far is on the Artificial Analysis Cyber Index, where Mistral Large 4 scores 50, ahead of GPT-6 Astra at 33 and Opus 5.5 at 29.

But what makes this comparison interesting is the refusal rate.

GPT-6 Astra refused 38 of the cybersecurity tasks because of its safety filters, while Opus 5.5 refused 36. Mistral Large 4, meanwhile, completed 50 tasks without those safety blocks.

Mistral Large 4 comes with a 1M-token context window, native multimodal support, tool calling, and a Mixture-of-Experts architecture with 1.05T total parameters and 49B active parameters.

Mistral Large 4 is now available in Cline.

Try it in CLI:
npm i -g cline

Or in our new Desktop app (we have several free model promos to give it a spin!)

Give it a try and let us know how it performs for you.

u/gargetisha — 8 days ago
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Vercel AI Gateway, Glyph Cluster Investigation - Microsoft MAI?

Cracked the stealth model Glyph Cluster: an anonymous Vercel preview is hiding behind it, and the tokenizer gives away Microsoft An investigation post, pour yourself some tea ☕️

Yesterday evening on Vercel AI, and from there to Command Code, Cline, Freebuff, a new stealth model was rolled out for free - stealth/glyph-cluster:free. "Reasoning model. 256K context. All plans," zero explanations, maker - "Stealth."

I ran a full investigation: 85 parallel subagents, ~1500 actions, 8700 artifacts per gigabyte, a burned daily quota, and one bug that caught me myself.

📌 Short answer The tokenizer is the o200k family (like Inkling and gpt-oss). The trail leads to Microsoft AI - roughly 40% on the MAI-Thinking line, 28% on Thinking Machines Lab. Expected reveal - October 12-14.

👀 How I got in No gates, unlike fledge and exo-free: a regular Bearer key, one curl, no geo-blocks. But 4 minutes after the start, a swarm of 85 agents burned the slot's entire daily quota - 100 requests per model per key, with no per-IP split. Reset at midnight UTC. Along the way a free bonus surfaced: for Python clients Cloudflare cuts requests at the edge (error 1010), while curl gets through - classic. The whole swarm moved to curl transport within a minute.

⭐️ Proof #1 - who holds the slot Opening the Vercel AI Gateway catalog without authorization - it sits there as the first line out of 412 models: "id":"stealth/glyph-cluster","owned_by":"stealth","released":1791331200,"context_window":256000,"pricing":{"input":"0","output":"0"}

And now the sources. In the Command Code CLI bundle, right in the code: GLYPH_CLUSTER_FREE:{...provider:"vercel-ai-gateway"...}

And in Kilo's sources the same thing: provider=VERCEL_AI_GATEWAY, "served through Vercel AI Gateway during its stealth period". The chain: lab → "stealth" middleware → Vercel → CC/Kilo. CC isn't the origin: the timeline shows the Vercel announcement on October 7 at 17:55 UTC, the CC npm bundle at 20:35, the tweet at 03:21 the next day. A fun one: according to wayback, the glyph page on the CC site was staged back between September 21 and October 1 - an early launch partner, not a cold mirror.

⭐️ Proof #2 - the tokenizer The same battery that cracked fledge and exo-free: 47 test strings, counting via the usage API, calibration via DashScope.

⭐️ Base "x" = 126 tokens = 125 fixed wrapper + content. Then it's pure physics: digits in batches of three (30 digits = 10 tokens), Japanese "こんにちは世界" = 2, Hindi = 5, ru = 7, zh = 8.

⭐️ Ran 26 dictionaries: 12 out of 12 exact matches with the o200k cluster (o200k_base, Inkling, Inkling-Small, gpt-oss-120b). The exceptions are hard: Qwen 3/12, GLM 5/12, Ling 2/12, MiMo 4/12, DeepSeek 9/12 (ja=6 vs our 2), Kimi off (ja=6/hi=7), MiniMax off (hi=7 vs 5).

⭐️ Method calibration: glm-5.3 via DashScope - 47/47, kimi-k3 - 47/47, deepseek - 47/47, plus a live ling model through the same CC gateway - 12/12 with its public tokenizer. The method doesn't lie.

Within the o200k family, digit probes no longer discriminate (Inkling = o200k_base + three service tokens, gpt-oss = o200k_base verbatim) - here it's not the tokenizer that decides, but behavior and cutoff. But the family is named: anything that splits Qwen per-digit-per-token, GLM in batches of 5-6, and Ling one at a time - is out. No, this isn't the stealth GLM-5.4 from my previous post, though the timing matches suspiciously: Zhipu keeps its anonymized models on OpenRouter, not on Vercel, and their line's tokenizer is completely different.

⭐️ Proof #3 - the anomaly that turned out to be my bug

The first measurements gave impossible numbers: 9 digits = 2 tokens, "こんにちは世界" = 1 token (no such token exists in any of the 26 dictionaries). The community would have said "new vocabulary!" The swarm said the right thing: "the methodology is lying." I was sending probes without the base prefix, but subtracting the base with the prefix - exactly minus one token on every string. The battery with the correct methodology gave native 3/4/10/17/20 with three repeats and zero variance, and a control ling through the same gateway - perfect 12/12 with no offset. The rule "never trust a single reading" worked like clockwork: it caught me myself.

The gateway, by the way, is fully honest - the count is exact, 13 out of 13 on natural texts.

☄️ And now the most interesting part - who's behind the sign The slot is disguised thoroughly. Their neighboring free ling honestly introduces itself as "I am the Ling model, created by Ant Group" in three languages. But glyph answers: I'm Glyph Cluster, and those details have not been announced yet.

The host doesn't script the persona - the mask comes from upstream, from Vercel's middleware. Under the hood it has ~121 tokens of a hidden system prompt (base 126 minus the bare template) - the instruction to stay silent lives there. reasoning is fully encrypted and arrives as a single chunk: reasoning_details:[{"type":"reasoning.encrypted","data":"gwst1....","format":"stealth-v1"}]

🔍 The main suspects A table with the proofs:

Microsoft AI (MAI-Thinking line) - 40%. The MAI-Thinking-1 tech report, verbatim: "we chose the o200k_base tokenizer with a vocabulary size of 200,019". Context 256,000 - MAI's native number (Vercel stores per-model values: ling is 262,144, glyph is 256,000). Microsoft Learn documents: MAI-Thinking-1 returns "encrypted chain-of-thought" and supports "only function tools" - both non-generic matches with our contract. Plus the Vercel×Microsoft partnership on October 1 - six days before launch. Plus Microsoft right now is running mai-experimental-test on OpenCode Zen - 280 billion tokens, "Lab: Unknown". Plus October 7 - the day of the MAI-Code-1.1-Flash event at 256K.

Thinking Machines Lab (Inkling line) - 28%. Vercel carries thinkingmachines/inkling at exactly 256K/256K - the same contract as glyph. The tokenizer line matches 12/12. A leaked list of their bird models with the "-ling" suffix: inkling, fledgling, starling, gatling, endling - fledge from the previous post already confirms that TML likes anonymous previews.

OpenAI line - 12%. But a control measurement of a live GPT through the same CC gateway showed a different profile: a bare 7-token wrapper vs our 126, a 1M counter, an openai-responses-v1 envelope. And our cache hits from prefixes under 1024 tokens - OpenAI can't do that.

An open-weights NN model gpt-oss - 12%. There's precedent: the previous Vercel stealth, Pixel Canary, turned out to be a model from consulting company Callstack. But encrypted reasoning and a 256K context are heavy infrastructure for an NN model.

Will never be revealed - 8%. Vercel has had such a slot before.

🛡 Who runs the server The Command Code gateway is TypeScript Hono + Zod v4 on Cloudflare Workers. The prose of validation errors is byte-for-byte identical across glyph, ling, inkling, and a nonexistent model - that's CC's wrapper, nothing to do with the lab. system_fingerprint is randomized on every call (36 unique out of 36) - with real OpenAI it's stable per deployment; here it's just a noise generator.

🤡 The gotchas you need to know 429 overloaded: both quota and "upstream temporarily unavailable" - read the body, they're distinguished by server-timing (70-141 ms vs 259-424 ms). max_tokens doesn't work as you expect: reasoning eats the limit from the inside (out of 30 tokens, 25 go to encrypted thinking, the answer is empty). The model is text-only: images are silently cut, no error, no billing.

"Prompts may be used for training" - that's not zero-retention. Everything you write to it goes to feed the maker. Asking a long question? reasoning is always on and always encrypted - even "who are you" costs 179 reasoning tokens.

P.S.: the most boring investigation I've ever written.

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u/Federal-Rub2713 — 6 days ago
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Introducing Cline Cloud Agents (Beta)

Hey everyone, we are launching Cline Cloud Agents (Beta)

With Cloud Agents, you can now run Cline directly from your browser, without needing to keep your IDE or desktop app open.

Give it a task, and it works inside its own secure cloud sandbox, writing code, running commands, and making changes to your repository. Once it's done, it opens a pull request on GitHub for you to review.

Here's what you can do with Cloud Agents:

Run multiple Clines in parallel

Every agent gets its own independent, secure container in the cloud, so you can have several tasks running simultaneously.

For example, you could have one Cline fixing a bug, another refactoring an existing feature, and a third building something new. All three work independently, and you can review their PRs as they come in.

Start on your laptop, continue from your phone

Since everything runs in the cloud, your agents don't stop when you close your laptop. You can kick off a task before heading out, check its progress from your phone, and come back to review the changes later.

Choose your model

You can get started for free with models like DeepSeek V4.1 Flash. We also support ClinePass, which gives you access to open-weights models at ~5x discounted rates.

How to Get started:

  1. Log in or create a Cline account.
  2. Connect your GitHub account.
  3. Head to the Agents tab, select a repository, and tell Cline what you want to build.

Try Cline Cloud Agents: https://cline.bot/cloud

Cline Cloud Agents is still in beta, and we'd love to hear your feedback as we continue improving the experience.

u/gargetisha — 7 days ago
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Cline vs DeepSeek Harness

I love Cline, but it's undeniable slow comparing to other harness, especially DeepSeek.

What I would like to know is if someone did a performance (results, not speed) comparison between both harness with the same model.

I managed to link my ClinePass subscription to DeepSeek Harness, so I'll be testing for a while; I just wanted extra feedbacks.

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u/NotWorkaholicc — 7 days ago
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Cline cant finish a local benchmark test regardless of model

I wrote a local, tiny 8-task benchmark test so I can compare all of the new HF models and quants that fit on my 24GB VRAM rig and then I post the results.

I use several harnesses for each model, that way I can see if the model failed or if the harness failed.

Cline inside VsCode hasnt succeeded even once. But it succeeds using top cloud models, which kinda defeats the point.

All of the local models failed and couldnt finish the 8 tasks and submit a score. I saw tool call nightmares, loops, crazy hallucinations, etc.

I love Cline. I used it to win a stock trading competition a few months ago (using an older GPT model).

Am I doing something wrong? Is there setting I need to tweak? Why are the local models failing only on Cline while succeeding on Pi and Hermes? Do they perform more hand-holding?

EDIT: Here's an example summarized by Gemini
"This log snippet provides a clear view of why the agent got stuck. It reveals a compounding storm of shell escaping traps, PowerShell syntax errors, and tool-formatting failures while trying to debug a regex script"

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u/mesolimbic-bliss — 9 days ago
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Pareto 26.10 Preview is now available in Cline

Hey everyone, we just added Pareto 26.10 Preview to Cline.

Pareto takes a pretty different approach from a standard single-model endpoint. It’s a composite model designed for coding and agentic workloads, routing work across multiple models and selecting the strongest result while keeping costs low.

Pareto 26.10 Preview scored 69.9% on DeepSWE v1.1 at an average cost of $0.24/task. For comparison, Fable 5 sits at roughly the same DeepSWE score at $13.41/task.

That makes Pareto about 56x cheaper per task at essentially the same score in this comparison.

It comes with a 1M-token context window, supports text and image input along with tool calling, and is designed for coding, research, and longer agentic workflows. Pricing is $0.80 per 1M input tokens, $0.03 per 1M cached input tokens, and $3.20 per 1M output tokens.

One particularly interesting part for Cline workloads is caching. Pareto is designed to preserve prompt caching even while using its composite approach, which matters a lot once an agent starts repeatedly working with a large codebase and long context.

It is still a Preview, so the model and its benchmark numbers may continue to change as Unbiased iterates on it.

Pareto 26.10 Preview is available in Cline now.

Try it in CLI:
npm i -g cline

Or in our new Desktop app (we have several free model promos to give it a spin!)

If you try it on a real codebase, especially a longer agentic task, let us know how it compares with the models you normally use.

u/gargetisha — 9 days ago
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Clinepass removed api keys?

I bought clinepass again after my opencode subscription ran out, it still said all over the website you could use it outside of cline, but there is no where in the app.cline.bot dashboard that lets you do this anymore?

u/its_quark — 9 days ago