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What I wish someone had told me as a cardiology fellow or new attending (or started doing on my own)

The single best ROI I ever did was to learn basic coding. No one teaches this in residency or fellowship and it affects your like beyond how much you get paid in most work settings, from academia to private practice.

Is not only about money. Knowing what is reimbursable or not and what are the documentation requirements for any given E&M encounter will make you more efficient, get you out of the door sooner, and concentrate on things that matter.

E.g. What makes a level 4 vs 5 visit? When can I bill for critical care? What are the documentation requirements when working with APPs? This applies to any current field in current medicine (in the US) but as a proceduralist, even more so… what is procedurally bundled or not, etc.

Your best tool nowadays is AI. If you don’t know already, start from the simplest ‘what are RVUs‘ or CPT codes? How do I get paid in x model? Ask those questions as simply and conversationally as they occur to you.

That has paid dividends up to this day and was key in my former academic, private practice or employed model. Remember, your job coders’ priority is to be in compliance and tend to err on the side of undercoding. And that is when they are correct, which they are often not. A typical coder in most places is multispecialty and is supposed to know the constantly changing rules for a knee replacement or for a NSTEMI or STEMI stent (coded differently, BTW).

Resources beyond AI (if at all needed): the AACP website and forums. For proceduralists (IC and EP): ZHealth.

OK… the next other random few things that come to mind are:

  • DO NOT f*ck where you work (applies to interns, nurses, reps, God forbid…patients, etc). Seems obvious but you would be surprised.
  • If you wear lead, work your core. I do kettlebell swings but there are other ways. 20+ years in, no back pain, a rarity among my partners. Incidentally work the muscles contrary to ’computer head / shoulders’. Google it if not clear.
  • Sneakers or squishy shoes are for running and feel good on your feet at the expense of an unbalanced platform for your spine. Stand on firm soles. Learned this from my mentor who cathed on cowboy boots. Thats not my vibe so I use boat shoes.
  • If you stand a lot, wear compression stockings. Venous reflux is rampant and not fun.
  • From academia to private partnership, employed models, etc. It will always be a transactional relationship. You are good as long as you are of benefit to the work. Approach it the same. Look out for your interests first and protect them. No one else will.
  • Speaking of, your biggest asset and the most wantonly disposed of by others is your time. Learn to say ’no’. No to BS meetings, no to after-work gratuitous work, etc. Look up ‘how to say no’ with Tim Ferris.
  • Max out your 401k, 403b etc. If there is matching make it a life priority to contribute enough to max the match. The sooner you start the better. Compounding is an awesome thing. If you have no idea where to start, get advice, check out the Boglehead forum here in Reddit, if your hospital has Fidelity or Vanguard most offer free basic consultation, if not search for an independent fee only financial advisors.
  • Earn as a cardiologist but live as a pediatrician (sorry pediatric colleagues). Luxe creep and ever-increasing social expectations are real. Look for them, recognize them, avoid them.
  • Don’t let your work define you. Develop some interests of your own outside of work and separate from your family or kids. Your post retirement you will thank you.
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u/saynocpr — 2 days ago

IC Application

Hi all,

I’m a third year clinical cardiology fellow preparing my application for IC, but I’ve noticed several programs just not participating in the match this year. Does this mean they may have filled internally?

Also any tips on the application? I don’t know how much of the “experiences” should roll over from residency vs fellowship. It’s been a busy last two years in fellowship, tbh I haven’t been able to “get involved” in as many experiences as I did as a resident.

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u/Smooth_Solution_9869 — 4 days ago

Help me decide: fellowship or not?

Turning 33yo M. First kiddo on the way. Always had a passion for cardiology but didn’t get in x 2. Only applied to one program due to family reasons.

I’m currently in a Canadian province with my IM training in the states. IM is much better here overall. My busy community hospital doesn’t have cardiology in house (I manage my own NSTEMI’s, order angiograms which get done at our neighboring bigger hospital by IC, read holters, etc). I do zero social work / dispo planning due to good hospital resources.

I made about 700k last year pre tax. (IM is pretty high paying in Canada due to volume). I’m on pace for the same this year. My IM job is a mix of wards, admitting, IM clinic provided by hospital (no overhead) and best of all: round and go. Wards are tough however. I manage about 25 patients a day with PA support.

Am I crazy for wanting to pursue fellowship again? I feel like I am just delaying life at this point if I go back. Wife will support me either way.

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u/Packman125 — 5 days ago

Interviewing for my first attending job tomorrow (noninvasive), gas me up so I feel less nervous? Or tell me fun/interesting stories from your interviews

Self descriptive title, delete if not allowed because I acknowledge this is a low effort post. But yeah despite having few objective reasons to be nervous, I feel like it’s the day before step 1 again or something. This is less a “what questions do I ask / what should I look for etc” because I feel like I have a decent sense of that from talking to different faculty and doing my own research / introspection as to what I’m looking for. But if anyone has anything to share in that realm I’d certainly welcome any advice.

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u/shermie303 — 7 days ago

CT boards

Hello all, I am a fellow in Cardiology wanting to get CT board certified. Unfortunately, we don’t have cardiologist reading them, radiologists do. We don’t get to rotate with them, hence I don’t have cases to get to COCATS II level. Has anybody done a review course to get enough numbers to be able to take boards?

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u/Docdad30 — 6 days ago

Starting fellowship in 2 days

Feeling pretty anxious about beginning. For current fellows and attendings: What level of knowledge do you actually expect from a 1st year fellow on day 1? Are we expected to know the basics of echo/ cath views?

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u/dramaqween1 — 7 days ago

Any advice for us incoming fellows?

I know there’s been threads like this before in years’ past, but each one offers new and helpful perspectives. Any and all advice on how to best take advantage of these next 3 years is appreciated. Thank you!

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u/MakinAllKindzOfGainz — 9 days ago

Q Banks

Best q bank for incoming fellows to do regularly? Same way residents used MKSAP/UW throughout residency to study in general, as well as prep for ITE!

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u/Medical_Elk4988 — 7 days ago

Starting intern year on cardio. What should I read up on?

Starting consults in a few days. Haven’t done any medicine for 8 months. I have one free day before July 1. It would be nice to review some high yield topics so im not entirely green when I show up

Thanks

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u/LOR_prob — 8 days ago