r/ChoujinX

Alright so this might be a long ass post. I've read both TG series and CX within two weeks and to say I'm obsessed would be an understatement. My obsession has reached such a level that I've reread CX again immediately and I started writing theories on my favourite characters. No other story has caught my interest this far other than Black Clover, AoT and Bleach. I'm gonna write theories on Knight Bottom, Palma/Bill Morth and Azuma/Queem because they've been my most fav so far in the story. Do share your thoughts.

This one belongs to our possible time traveller Kagomura and his unintentionally intentional hand in helping Palma.

1. Reason for killing Nude: To protect Zora from weakening (saving the mark)?

To begin with, we know KB's one and only 'duty' is to protect the mark of the beast and give it to the worthy successor. So him fighting Yubiko (who's after the mark for some reason) and Batista (who we later know wanted the mark) is understandable. Let's say he did not want Yamato Mori to learn about the location of the fields and he was trying to protect Zora from weakening, which otherwise would ultimately lead to her death and end of the mark, so he had to kill Nude. However, we see in his fight against Batista that he was there to only protect the mark and not Zora. He doesn't care if she's weak or not, he's ready to eliminate any threat solely for the mark and seems eager to pass it over to the successor (he seems to think she's mad too). If his goal was to protect the poppy fields and save the mark then he definitely should've gone after Tokio's team when they went to the island but let's assume he had no clue about Palma being there or YM learning about the location, but wouldn't this cancel out the time-travelling theory?

2. Reason for killing Nude: To help Yamato Mori in burning the fields?

If he were Kagomura from the future and did want the fields to be scorched then why did he kill Nude? KB was already waiting for Nude in the alley. If he is a time traveller who wants to help YM in scorching the fields (so that they could fight against Zora) couldn't he just simply let Nude go and get caught by Tokio? Or I don't maybe just hurt him enough to knock him unconscious so that Tokio could catch him? But all Nude's chopped up body did was free Palma. YM held her in their custody for her crimes and only released her/started using her abilities because she was needed by them. It was only possible due to Nude's death.

3. Who is he?

It feels like his reason for killing Nude wasn't exactly to save the fields but also not only to help Yamato Mori. The entire scenario was like he was mainly helping Palma.

Kagomura: Now he could be Simon from the future who knows about the Calamity. He must've killed Nude so that Palma would be free because she might've played a key role in stopping the Calamity. And also he belongs to the sword clan. And also because he is the one who understood if the mark stays then the choujin stay too.

Tokio: I personally think he might be Tokio because KB has a half-black and half-white heal-block sword. There's so much mystery around Tokio's powers because we never really see him go crazy during chaos state. I mean the first time we see him in choas, it was during his fight against Azuma and even when he used harpe, he wasn't trying to kill him. He was able to beastify and use his wings to save him despite the state. Even during the second time, he only went after Batista. By the third time, he mastered it already. I wonder if his chaos state is really supposed to be the real choas one. I mean isn't it weird how every one who's been shown to enter chaotic thoughts were just going around killing everyone around them and they were drained by the time they came out of it but with Tokio, we don't see that at all. And the fact that he can hear chaotic thoughts of others and even sense their presence makes me think his true powers are yet to be understood. Which is why I think that time traveller might be Tokio (who might have gained the pet, the white part of the sword and the holy flame powers later in the timeline) and it makes sense that he'd try to save Palma. Since, he promptly considered Nude's death as an opportunity in the main timeline much like Sato.

Bill Morth or Shishinegura: This might sound crazy but there's a reason why I think he might not be a time traveller but someone actually related to Palma. I won't go into the details in this post because it'll become super long but I also sort of have a theory that Mr. Shishinegura might or might've been Bill Morth. But I'm more inclined to the theory that they aren't the same and that KB could be Bill Morth, Shishinegura is still alive and might be Nomnimer. I'll talk about Palma's powers too in a different post.

4. What is the connection between KB and Mark?

After reading the fight between Yubiko and KB and the subsequent 'dream' of Chandra's, I came to this realisation that the Mark might be something entirely different than what we thought. In the last line he says to Yubiko that he will never 'hand over' the mark like he's the one who's in control of it like he knows what the mark really is. And what Chandra had wasn't actually a premonition but it was Sora telepathically communicating with him. She has the ability to communicate through images (it was what she used to show Tokio, Ely and Azuma the vision of dark calamity). She was trying to tell him "The Mark..." and we were shown the next scene. "Please Hume that is not" and her head was cut off. Now I don't want to make assumptions but it was like the vow renouncing war kind of situation in AoT where members of royal blood couldn't fully use founder's powers or even talk about it. And that shadowy figure is suspicious too. There were feathers when her head was cut off. We learn in the double spread that what she shared with him was the vision of soldiers, planes, tower, smoke, something like sun? And some weird snake? Or was it land? It definitely felt like she trying to tell him something about the mark.

Doubling down to what the heck Mark even is:

All this time (as far as I understood) I thought mark was solely Sora's ability to grant anyone choujin powers (who'd individually manifest their abilities that they seek). I don't think it's ever mentioned where she is from and she seemed to have the sight of prophecy even before she was resurrected as a choujin through infection. What she told the trio might be the truth that Mark is the 'source' of her powers not her own power. It's smart word play. Bleach does it too with White literally saying he's zangetsu but when we realise it's true it still hits us like damnnn. I'd say she manifested her own powers due to the Mark already existing. She must've gotten the Mark from else where. It could be from Queem or someone else. It'll be interesting to see because Mark sounds like the source of Choujin X. That'd make Ely the current CX. And I wonder if Tokio, Azuma, Chandra, Jing, Tawashi, and Ice are the only ones who manifested their powers through the Mark. (Including Azuma here because I got a theory that both Queem and him got their powers from Mark too).

Someone in this sub said Bill Morth might be the first choujin and CX. I have a theory that the Mark might be his power which is the main reason why I believe KB says he'll never hand over the mark to someone who isn't worthy of it. He could also be someone related to BM. I think Yubiko's reason for wanting the mark is because she knows what it is too and she seems to have realised who KB is as well. Her thinking it's convenient Chandra thinks of him as a God makes me believe he could be CX and the only two other CX we know of are Queem and Bill Morth. But since knight bottom looks like he'd rather die than be Gueltan, I want to incline to the theory that he is BM. And also does anyone else wonder how he knew Yubiko was from Guelta? Or if she could be working for Guelta which is why she doesn't want Chandra to know? And also why couldn't Bador Vlad take the Mark and still live?

This is just brief thread I’ve had in my head for a while going into detail regarding why I think Tokio has still remained confidant & laid-back as a hero Choujin after the Tower Raid and is still fighting in the war with the Higo / Vulture squad.
Keep in mind I haven’t reread this in a while, so correct me if I get things wrong.

So, from what I remember, Tokio was hesitant to be a Choujin at first, but after Beast Isles attack and the first meeting with Sora, he quits school, left home and trained in Iwato with Sato for a whole year to be strong enough to protect both his home and his family from big threats.
He begins losing some confidence when some Choujin like Ely would rather keep fighting instead of looking from both sides ever since he lost his Iwato squad in battle. Thankfully, he was able to overcome it after successfully saving Palma from chaosification.

Then, at the big Sora mission, after learning that he’ll die along with Azuma if the mark disappears, he selflessly negotiates with her looking through both perspectives right up to the conclusion that he’ll be okay taking her mark.
And we all know what happened from there.
After Ely “stole” the mark instead, it was either a relief or upsetting that he is no longer able to take up the burden. But even after a major win by defeating Batista / Nue, nothing prepared anyone for what happened next, resulting in the assassination of Yamato’s seer and a major terrorist attack.
But the worst outcome of them all that permanently changed Tokio’s life forever was the discovery, with Palma’s help, that both his father and older sister were among the victims of the attack, completely leaving him devastated that he can now never go back to his old life and his meaning now lost.

Now here’s what I personally think happened between 69.2 and his first encounter with Ubrega. After the talk with Palma about his mother, Tokio remained depressed for a few days, keeping what happened to his family a secret from everyone except her, as a loyal and honest friend, for now at least.
Then, on Tokio’s 17th/18th birthday (Jan 13), he then considers giving up as a Choujin altogether to begin a new human life like Batista was forced to do, but then Palma tells him that her being at Yamato Mori felt more like a home and that her friends were more like her family after the fields.
So, while everyone is busy sorting out Ely’s new role and the continuing plane attack throughout Nanasu, Palma is the one celebrating Tokio’s birthday and comforts him when he begins to get emotional thinking about his family, with Palma reminding him that friends don’t have to keep secrets.

The next day, as Guelta II begins their attack, Tokio confronts the young keepers, minus Ely, and tells them the truth about his family and his dilemma that has haunted him since childhood, resulting in them all to have a group hug, except for Azuma as he has his own crazy issues going on.
After that moment, Tokio begins to slowly recover from the mourning, as with his current meaning now gone, he gains a new one where his friends at Yamato Mori now feel more like his new family and that no matter what happens, he’ll make sure they all survive whatever comes their way.

Enter the war and the Nanasu Alliance splitting them all apart, the young keepers make a promise that whatever happens or how long it takes, one day they’ll all reunite in Yamato, and as you can see here, Tokio, now confident again, is relieved with both his friends’s strength and Ely’s safety.
So while the war takes a major toll on all of Nanasu with the fall of Gaga & Iwato and the loss of thousands of Choujin, Tokio keeps his courage alive fighting alongside his best friend, while Ely stayed protected at Yamato as the new seer, with Palma there to help at the new pharmacy division.
So, even after three years away from home, while looking more rugged and tired from all the fighting and started smoking as a way to communicate to his dad. Tokio still keeps fighting to defend Nanasu from Guelta II rampage, since all his friend as still alive and playing their own part in the war.
I also think that when Azuma was called in to assist Nowak and then Yamato as Vice-Director, Tokio gave him that boost to go ahead to both support their friends as a rough point there as well as keep Ely safe, not just because he ships the two, but so she doesn’t go completely insane like Sora.

In conclusion, despite what happened to Tokio being ultimately heartbreaking, I love the growth he has had throughout the story, where after everything that has happened to him, he’s never given up as a hero, with his powers getting stronger, now as leader of the squad and his friends alongside him supporting him. And with the addition of Arulu and Koemori now as his new allies, I’m excited to see how Tokio’s character develops further.
But that’s all my say on this chunky theory. Let me know what you think about this and correct me if I’m wrong on anything I said here.

Queem: Creation Choujin with the power to both create and organize different types of matter,both organic and inorganic.

Bill Morth: Immortal Choujin that could use his own blood to bless others with different types of attributes such as ressurection,immortality,healing.

Sora Siruha: Faith/Divine (?) Choujin that could manifest different powers rooted on religious phenomena/iconography.

I just finished the "killing Zora arc" but i still have some questions tharmt idk if i'm just dumb or if it will be revealed later.

1. I'm still a bit confused about the magic system. Are Supercells like the X-Gene of the X-Men ?
2. Is Choujin X just a title or something more ? Does it have anything to do with some Choujins having more powerful Supercells like some mutants are Omega-Level ?
3. Is Ely the new Choujin X ? Her powers break the compatibility rule the Mark has ?
4. What is the Mark ? I couldn't understand anything that they were doing during the Batista and Nue x Everyone else battle lol does it really gives you any power you want ? They were awakening so many new powers. At one point he basically became Yhwach from Bleach wishing for new eyes.
5. If it can give you any power,why couldn't Sora just wish the Calamity away if it can make you a reality warper ?

Since I enjoy experimenting with collaborations, it was only a matter of time before it came to this.

Pixiv/tiktok: Pepsik_4g

This comment right here made me understand the power system, Queem and Sora relationship and how Queem's abilities were expressed,but i'm still confused about Sora. The manga does say that her abilities were endless but that was just hyperbole (?).