r/DirtySionMains

Ladies & gentlemen, I made a matchup sheet.

Ladies & gentlemen, I made a matchup sheet.

As the title says.
This is still very much so a work-in-progress, but I decided to make this because I have a few friends that play Sion and constantly DM me about matchups and stuff. I'd like feedback on any of the stuff mentioned here. The sheet assumes you have a general understanding of how Sion works.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16UMW5_-Ja0RYMMi3xhvVwHDBAkpN1V4I0gaUm2rxC2c/edit?gid=0#gid=0

u/TheMetwally — 1 day ago

Honestly, what is even the point of Sion scalling health anyway?

Sion isn't a scalling monster anymore, every fighting champion outscale him, HP scalling items are all bad now, Knight's vow has bigger winrate on him than all of the HP scalling items (Bloodmail, Titanic, Unending, Hollow, Sunfire, Heartsteel) and late game him farming and gettting a bit more health doesn't do anything, everything has % HP damage and he can't even sidelane properly like a Trundle, Fiora, Rengar etc, he has to be with his team and give the CS to the ADC.

So why even bother giving him a HP farming skill? would much rather removing it, buffing his base stats and giving him actual HP scalling on skills, it doesn't matter if you have 1000-1500 more extra health than other tanks (not even that most of the time, since Sion base stats are so bad) you don't have meaningful way of turning that into damage as other champions) and you can't even focus on farming after lanning phase.

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u/DueExplorer3146 — 2 days ago

I was searching for ways to counter Blade of the Ruined King, only to realize I had asked the exact same question 8 years ago. Still looking for answers.

u/rottenleaf — 2 days ago
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King of mains

What do you guys think about finding who is really the better main user 👀. Tell me your champ and I will set up duels . Champ with most votes goes first. Gotta be NA

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u/SearchHefty4164 — 2 days ago

Yorick walls dont cancal sion R- BUG!

https://medal.tv/games/league-of-legends/clips/mIZlwoG3EJuby09fO?invite=cr-MSxtMXAsMzUzODIzNDYw

Ok ive just ran into possibly my faviroute new sion bug (except for stormraiders resetting on sion during passive)

Yorick walls dont cancel sion r for some reason, this happened 3 times in the game, one time i was turned 180 degrees in a fight after bouncing off of the wall lmao. Anyone else experienced this?

EDIT- sorry i couldnt download the clip and post it, im not paying for premium medal xd

u/Individual_Feed2468 — 5 days ago
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First look at the new Day Job & Food Fight skins for Irelia, Vel'Koz, Illaoi & Sion

u/aroushthekween — 10 days ago
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Who is right here? Me (Caitlyn) or Sion (Tilterella)?

Hello Cait mains,

I had a game with a Sion support who in my opinion played in a very sub-optimal way! He did this play here, all-in the Soraka when shes standing so far back in lane I couldnt even flash onto her, and full hp Draven with spinning axe is in front of me! And both of them have all summs!

I knew the sion would die if I left him here, so I ran in for a q on soraka then had to use barrier flash to escape Draven!

And he could have flashed to kill me 100% but he chose not to.

After this, Sion told me im misplaying the lane by not focusing Soraka. But I did focus her, the only thing I could hit her with is max range Q here.

Then after this Sion said he would afk so I just prompted him to roam, because botlane is not a kill lane for us. But he didnt listen.

Then he ended up ksing a lot of kills that he could have easily given over to other players, and he rushed collector first item, which allowed him to ks everything in zombie form.

Fast forward and we got baron but Sion died for zero reason at all walking into Draven as we left to recall, and the game ended.

Wp to this Sion! I tried asking him to vod review the game but he completely refused and kept making excuses, he refused to explain why he all in this Soraka or any of the other bronze plays he made, then he blocked me!

Wp bro!

u/Useful_Collar_3221 — 8 days ago

Sion Support Tank Phase Rush Replacement

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I'm coming here because I've asked every player who's better than me for help, but I'm not convinced they know the answer either.

I used to run Phase Rush on my tank Sion support for a more hit-and-run playstyle when applicable, but with it gone, I don't know what to run anymore.

I've tried Aftershock, but I'm not convinced it's any good. I'm willing to try Aery, but my friend, who's a Masters support player, recommended Grasp, which I'm unconvinced would work for what I want. Aery seems fine, but it only works after an 800 gold investment, which seems like a long time for a support.

So I've come to ask other Sion players what they think would theoretically work, or what you guys have actually been using in place of Phase Rush tank Sion.

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u/Markus165 — 9 days ago

Hear me out...

Barbecue Sion

Keystone Deathfire touch. Followed by manaflow band, trascendence and scorch.

Valor runes, the usual suspects: Demolish and Overgrowth.

2 dmg runes and HP.

Start E, doran ring, 2 pots, poke people around. If you win, build liandrys, if not, sunfire.

Max R > E > W > Q.

The fun thing comes now:

Build Unending Despair after Sunfire and Liandry's. This item triggers both Deathfire and Liandry's.

Sunfire keeps burning.

If your team is winning, go magic pen boots and abyssal mask. Go resists if losing.

Last item of choice. I tried to do a Warmog but never reached that point.

I even won a lane vs a Malzahar just by early poking and harrassing them with EW1> Q > W2 combo. Each connected skill extends deathfire and after a while does more damage.

Good thing about this build is you can easily pivot and drop liandry's and abyssal mask for a more classic build. The poke with df touch is really useful.

Thoughts?

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u/KushOrly — 9 days ago

Why play sion top instead of mid?

I recently started taking sion mid and have found a ton of more success than sion top, I can influence the map greatly, I can help my jg better, matchups are always playable.

sure a yasuo or yone are hard matchups but the short lane plus sions tankiness makes this matchups way easier to deal with. So is sion mid currently the best lane for him?

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u/Only-Scarcity-6453 — 9 days ago

Spirit Visage is underrated af

Masters sion main here https://u.gg/lol/profile/na1/riptheone-na1/overview and want to tell you guys about spirit visage.

Looking at the stats it doesn't seem like that impressive of an item, but its insane synergy with shield bash, your w, and unending despair (the best tank item in the game imho) along with its cheap cost at 2700 makes its a very attractive item.

If the enemy team is very heavy mr like 3+ with one of them being an apc instead of an adc than things like kaenic are probably better. But more often than not it isn't a mage killing you in a teamfight but the toplane bruiser or adc. In those situations getting +25% shield on w usually leads to more survivability in teamfights because despite being a mr item can help deal with ad threats quite well.

And all of this without mentioning the fact that with it your w become basically impossible to pop, along with having good synergy with the toplane quest giving you an even more massive shield.

Give it a try and let me know what you think.

u/Low-Feeling4021 — 10 days ago
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Bausffs Quinn Full Games - Study the "Space Gliding"

Hi everyone! We all know how rare it is to see a good Quinn in high elo. I’m archiving Bausffs' full Quinn VODs so we can actually see the full laning phase and how he snowball games with her. Hope this helps anyone trying to learn his playstyle: https://www.youtube.com/@ThebausffsGod

u/LonelyAdeptness2891 — 11 days ago