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The Glorification of suffering in Muslim/Shia culture

Many of us, especially Shias, witness firsthand how our communities not only tolerate suffering but often transform it into a moral virtue. In some cases, individuals and even entire communities seem to consciously perpetuate and prolong suffering instead of resolving it.

You can see this on the individual level:

* women tolerating betrayal and chronic unhappiness for the sake of “patience”
* people remaining in emotionally dead marriages because wanting a better partnership is viewed as greedy? Promiscuous? بس ابي احد يستر عليي
* individuals suppressing anger, ambition, sexuality, or self-expression because wanting “too much” feels spiritually shameful. اهمشي الوحد يصير قنوع
* people accepting humiliation or exploitation rather than being seen as confrontational or selfish ويش نسوي بعد. الله بياخذ حقي منه
* guilt surrounding pleasure, success, pride, or visible happiness لا تقول لاحد كم معدلي الدراسي.

And you can see it communally too:

* social pressure against standing out too much financially, socially, or intellectually. ليش تبي فلوس انت مو فقير
* admiration for endurance more than transformationماشاءالله عليها صبورة
* romanticizing deprivation while distrusting ambition
* على قد حاله خوش واحد

* Constant silent action-less resentment of structures (governments companies and agencies(، لا الكلام وياهم ما يودي ولا يجيب حسابهم يوم القيامة

Managing or pushing down expectations and goals during match making
* . رافعه خشمها تبي ما تبي اي واحد
* لا تتخير واجد اذا البنية ما عليها كلام خدها

What’s interesting is that this mindset doesn’t just encourage suffering — it actively pressures nonconformists into shrinking themselves.
People learn to throttle ambition, hide joy, soften confidence, settle for less, and avoid hard decisive measures because excessive self-assertion feels morally dangerous.

At some point you start wondering whether suffering stopped being merely tolerated and became psychologically necessary for the moral identity of the group itself.

So I’m curious:

  1. Do you despise this like i do?

  2. Is suffering preserved by the collective subconscious to root individuals into the whole faith tightly?

  3. Can you sometimes see the satisfaction with suffering on some individuals?

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u/Acceptable-Quail7435 — 3 days ago

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u/Big-Personality-4140 — 4 days ago

25M looking for a serious relationship

Not conservative, though for practical reasons I still prefer maintaining a conservative image around most people for now.

Looking for someone I genuinely respect and enjoy being around. Ideally, I’d want us to be best friends.

- I don’t like restricting myself to what people consider “normal.” That’s why many of my close friends thought I was at least a little weird when they first met me.
- I’m generally calm and self reserved but can be direct.

- Into fitness and take it seriously.
- Love seeing nature and travel destinations with physical effort.
- Stable financially and have my own place.

Looking for someone who is at least some combination of these:
- Non-conservative, or at least doesn’t want to live entirely by the expectations of this society.
- Intelligent — socially, intellectually, creatively, emotionally, etc.
- Not cynical or life-negating.
- In her twenties.
- Good looking
- Comfortable with me having no plans to openly declare my beliefs to family/society for now.

If you think we’d get along, feel free to message me

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u/FounduMrpocket — 6 days ago
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Tolerance of faith

There are many strong religious communities that completely tolerate atheism even within the family

Why don’t we have the same?

Would you say we could be living like this if not for external political and cultural influences?

في مجتمعات دينية كثيرة تتقبل الإلحاد بشكل كامل حتى داخل نفس العائلة.

ليش إحنا ما عندنا نفس الشي؟

وهل تعتقدون إننا ممكن نعيش بهالشكل اليوم بسبب التأثيرات السياسية والثقافية الخارجية؟

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u/Acceptable-Quail7435 — 9 days ago

شنو هو الدافع الاكبر لترك الدين؟

أحس تقريبا الكل يتركون الدين لأن الالتزام فيه ما يعطيهم شعور زين، مو لأنهم اقتنعوا فعلاً إنه مو حق أو مو مبني على حقيقة.
الصلاة تصير اثقل، الحرام يصير مغري، والالتزام يصير كأنه سجن، فيبدأ الواحد يدور تبرير فكري لشعور داخلي أساسه النفور أو التعب أو الرغبة.

بس بنفس الوقت، يمكن السبب إن الالتزام صار ثقيل هو إن الإيمان نفسه ضعيف من البداية.
لأن الإنسان إذا آمن بشي فعلاً، يتحمل عشانه. الناس تتعب عشان فلوس، عشان أهداف، لأنهم مؤمنين بقيمتها. فليش الدين يصير مختلف؟

عشان جذي الموضوع شوي مثل الدجاجة والبيضة.
هل ضعف الإيمان خلا الطاعة ثقيلة؟
أو لأن طاعة الدين و طاعة المجتمع كانت ثقيلة بدأ الإيمان يضعف؟

و من نظري ما احس ان الموضوع يختلف من شخص لشخص واجد

اكيد السببين ينمون مع بعض عند الكل

لاحظت عند اغلب الاطفال ايام طفولتي و الحين ان من البداية الطاعة و الإمان صعبين و بعدين تكبر الصعوبة او تصغر اعتماداً على -في رأيي- غالباً اي قد الطاعة تناسب اسلوب حياتهم و رغباتهم مو اي قد فكروا في عقلانية الافكار الي مبني عليها الإيمان

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u/Acceptable-Quail7435 — 12 days ago