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Sumrall detractors, hear me out

I want to share this clip from the post game presser Saturday, to discuss with our Gator community here why we shouldn’t jump so quick for Sumrall’s head. Sumrall never hyped our team. He has said every week since week 1 if we don’t improve we will get exposed. Every time a reporter would ask about if we were good, or back, or if the “beast was awake” Sumrall would always, in a professional way, say hell no. Obviously a lot of the frustration in the fan base is understandable, we’ve watched mediocre/bad football a few years in a row. We still won those 4 games quite decisively. I respect that Sumrall takes the head responsibility as he is the head coach, but you guys don’t seriously blame him for the terrible secondary play, bad tackling, lack of effort, and o line duds do you? Maybe in some larger picture way, but I mean let’s face facts, he doesn’t call our offense Buster does. He didn’t go on a limb and bring in Philo, Buster recommended him. Defensively Brad White runs our schemes and calls our plays. I would say coordinators should be in the sights of what could be lacking especially that secondary boy are they bad. Lastly, can we really blame Sumrall for what seems to be such a lack of effort from this team? He said himself he’s been a bit rattled since Ole Miss. Seems to me players got a bit on their shoulders and got punched in the mouth now they don’t know what to do. We had a player celebrate a tackle for a loss while we were down 18😅I mean come on man are we serious? I just can’t put that on coaches. All in all, what I’m trying to say is give the man a couple years guys. I know we want to win now, hell, I want to win now, but we gotta understand it don’t work that way. And we didn’t come off a season that would’ve given us the thought we could do anything this year anyway. Remember guys, 4-0 was our best case scenario going into Missouri and we did that. We’ve hit a stumble, still a lot of season left though. Let’s give him a full off season and into next year before you guys decide you want his head on a stake. Happy Sunday! Go Gata!!🐊

u/zaza-junkie- — 4 days ago

Putting things in perspective

There is no question that the last two games have been painful at best and a shuddering return to the past at worst. But the take above helps keeps things in perspective.

Sumrall has started off strong and hit the brick wall of SEC reality. Let's give him some time to get his system and his players in place and the judge him as a HC. The very fact that we sit at 4 wins today with a win over Ole Miss is something we didn't expect when he was hired.

Stand by the Gators, and things will turn around. Go Gators!

u/fauxmonkey — 3 days ago

We Have a Culture Problem…

Two losses after a 4-0 start and the fanbase is already ready to fire Sumrall. The team gives up at the littlest sign of adversity. This isn’t the Gator brand and it starts with us as fans. The players see the kinds of things going around on social media and of course it will affect their play. These are young impressionable kids.

I have noticed it over the years but the culture surrounding the program, particularly the fan base, has just gone off the rails. I blame it partly on social media because now everyone wants to get paid for engagement so you get idiots like IAKOW posting nonsense almost daily. However, we as a fanbase have become so toxic that I, even as an alumnus and die hard Gator for decades, can’t even stand talking with some of you. It needs to be toned down a notch. We need to give Sumrall a fighting chance or else we are going to be even more years behind the rest of the pack. We need to be supportive at this stage. This isn’t the time to go calling for a 6 game coach to lose his job and particularly not after demolishing the #4 team in the country 3 weeks ago.

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u/Routine_Ad_9478 — 4 days ago

Hello From the UK

Little man’s first Jersey could only be this, shame I couldn’t get a number 15 to match mine!

u/BorrowedSlim — 4 days ago

It’s Really Early in the Sumrall Era, but Our 4 SEC Games Are Hard to Reconcile.

Our first 2 SEC games are hard to reconcile with the last 2 games. Caveat: it’s hard to accurately judge in the first year. Lost 32 players to the portal from last year and brought in the same # of transfers plus 20 high school recruits. So about 60 guys came back and 52 are new.

Still, it’s interesting how it seems like Faulkner’s creative magic evaporated so quickly. Losing VB III shouldn’t take an above average offense to completely ineffective, should it?

Brad White’s D has been mostly embarrassing bad. The CBs are poor and we may not have much talent on the D line, but Brad was Sumrall’s first choice for DC. He’s making too much $$ to be this bad. It’s definitely too early, but if it doesn’t improve next year (or ugh year 3), Sumrall’s willingness to fire his friends could be telling. Sumrall knows better than we how good the position coaches are, and maybe having bad players at underperforming positions keeps good coaches around for year 2. Still, keeping coaches, especially a DC, even a year too long would give off major Stricklin and Napier vibes.

As an aside, I maintain Strick should have been fired after not firing Napier after his second year. Giving him 4 years was inexcusable.

The final 4 games this year look A LOT different than they did 2 weeks ago: Oklahoma, at Kentucky, Vanderbilt, and at Florida State. None of those are sure-fire wins. On the flip side, we could win 3 or all of them, and we usually play UGA tough. To win 7-8 games, the Gators need to coach and play a hell of a lot better. Hopefully the staff will do great things in the last half of the season.

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u/GatorAuthor — 4 days ago

In all kinds of weather

We all stick together. I know its tough, but dare to be an optimist. What are you gonna do? Be a bandwagon canes fan? I know nobody is jumping ship to FSU. Its great to be a Florida Gator no matter what. F everyone else

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u/diamond_backdraft — 4 days ago

A little perspective before we burn the program down

Today was awful. There’s no defending a 45–17 type performance. The defense got embarrassed, Missouri was clearly the better team, and the staff deserves criticism for it.

But before we decide five games into Jon Sumrall’s tenure that the rebuild is dead, Florida history is worth remembering:

In Steve Spurrier’s first season in 1990, Florida started 5–0 and reached No. 9. Then they went to Tennessee and got absolutely destroyed 45–3. Sound familiar?

Florida responded by beating Akron 59–0, Auburn 48–7, Georgia 38–7, and Kentucky 47–15. They finished 9–2.

Spurrier obviously turned out okay.

In Urban Meyer’s first season in 2005, Florida started 4–0 and reached No. 5. Game five was at Alabama.
Alabama 31, Florida 3.

Meyer’s first team eventually finished 9–3. The following season (as you know) Florida went 13–1 and won the national championship.

None of that means Sumrall is Spurrier or Meyer.

And it absolutely does not mean today was acceptable.
It means one catastrophic road loss early in a coach’s first season does not tell us what that coach’s tenure will become.

There’s a huge difference between:

“This loss exposed serious problems Florida needs to fix.”
and “We’re fucking frauds; the season is over”.

The first is fair. The second is pretending we know the future.

Today sucked. Adjust expectations if you want. Fucking criticize the hell out of the defense. But maybe give the new staff more than five games before writing the obituary. Spurrier was once 5–0 and lost 45–3. Meyer was once 4–0 and lost 31–3.

We have been here before.

In all kinds of weather.

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u/Noobfroobs — 11 days ago

Wake the COMO up! IT’S GAME DAY!

Sumrall better not let his guys be as sleepy as you lot! We’re going to have to come out of the gate firing on all cylinders to avoid being sucked into the trap game trap. I for one will be absolutely Mizzourable if we lose to these schmucks again. So let’s GET UP AND GO. Trekking out there to play them is always a headache, you say, and we find ourselves in a big letdown spot? Good. It’s one more test. So shake off the Columbia malaise, and GO GATORS.

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u/GoodGuyNixon — 12 days ago