r/FourTet

Hope someone know any of these ID’s 😅

Hi everyone,

Sorry if this is a bit all over the place — I’m pretty new to producing and I’m trying to understand how to get closer to that loose, human drum feel in Ableton.

I’ve been really obsessed lately with the early Four Tet drum sound, like in this track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4iI3nMhvGg&t=1s (drums start around 0:40), and I don’t really understand how the drums manage to feel so natural and alive even though they’re clearly programmed.

Right now everything I make feels too stiff and “on the grid,” even when I add swing or change velocities.

Some of my questions are:

• What should I actually practice to develop a better sense of groove and microtiming?
• How do you learn when to push drums slightly ahead or behind the beat?
• Are there exercises for improving this (besides just trial and error)?
• Would watching jazz drumming tutorials help with learning this kind of feel?
• And is most of this feel coming from timing, or from how the samples are chopped/selected and layered?

Also, I’ve tried searching for info on this kind of early Four Tet drum style but couldn’t really find much, so if there are any good places, tutorials, or directions to learn from, that would be really helpful too.

Any beginner-friendly advice or pointers would really help.

TLDR
New to Ableton and trying to get that loose, human drum feel like early Four Tet. My drums sound too stiff/on-grid. Looking for basic guidance on groove/microtiming, when to push or pull hits, and whether feel comes more from timing practice or sample selection/chopping. Also trying to get past the “I don’t know what I don’t know” stage.

#Used Ai to help me write the post-

Anyone know this one?

You could say I’ve been a fan for a while.