r/FranzBardon

It is said that Quintscher was Bardon's teacher, and that they were supposedly part of the same lodge or tradition at some point. It is said that a lot of what Bardon knew, he learned from Quintscher, such as the entire idea of developing the mind, imagination, and will first - alot of the ideas in IIH.

I have been on a pursuit, for a few days now, trying to find Quintscher's books, but they are very hard to find and very obscure or niche. I found a few of them, some I'm using a translator to be able to read because I can only find in original German.

One question I always had was about Bardon's original intelligences of the zone girdling the Earth, which are not found in Abramelin and are not the 360 taken from it that everyone always brings up. These seem to be original, or entities he made up, or was uniquely in contact with, or originate from some other source.

I had been on a hunt for information on one particular spirit for a long time, Immicat. I think I see where he inherited her from. It is - Jmical - Awfully close name, and same function (sleep). They were indeed both reading from the same bible, or sharing/inheriting from the same tradition. You will also see Osrail there, which Bardon is often criticized for having stolen or renamed from Azrael. Here we find the same spirit, also mentioned by Quintscher.

Interesting note on Osrail - if you read the passage, it actually requests Osrail to end the life of the magician himself, not others.

As I’m reading the books, it feels like something Bardon would have written, they are clearly sharing a tradition. A lot of it resembles IIH, but a lot of it also resembles PME. Bardon is somewhat vague when discussing the invisible ones, here we find more information regarding contact with them, communion, how it works, and so on. Very in line with PME, which I find extremely interesting.

This is not to dimmish Bardon in any way whatsoever, I just found this interesting, as I have been on a hunt for some of this information for quite some time, and on a deep dive about Quintscher, The Fraternitas Saturni, German occult lodges and secret esoteric societies of the time. Unfortunately this stuff is really hard to find when compared to something like the Golden Dawn materials and so on. Probably a lot of the works of the occult scene from the time in that region were confiscated and destroyed by the Nazis. It is said Quintscher was killed by the Nazis also. Similar to how Bardon's final book of Alchemy got destroyed while in the works, I'm sure a lot of this stuff was also destroyed, or lost to time.

There's something about this lineage of tradition, that goes back since before Bardon, that is very unique and different from what is more easily available and traceable, again, such as GD material that was made public by Regardie, and continued as a tradition in to modern times. Information from this tradition is much harder to find and trace.

3rd image - I tried to edit the post and add the cover for the 3rd image, which is from one of Quintscher's other books. Here we can see more of that lineage/tradition. Don't know why reddit won't allow me to add that image to the post, but this is the title of that book:

Rah Ohmir's Denurian Writings - Denurische Schriften (1928) - 28 years before Bardon's IIH.

Volume 1

Denu Val Gumas

That is:

The Magic of the Will

or the so-called Secret Book of the Master Builders

by

Rah Ohmir Quintscher

- If you read the contents of this book (image 3 - The Magic of the Will), you can clearly tell that either this material/ideas had a huge influence on Bardon, or that they are clearly sharing from the same esoteric tradition. As I'm reading it, you can clearly tell IIH was influenced by this, or this tradition of knowledge and practice. A lot of similar ideas and teachings.

The Magic of the Will - "The first daily exercise is simply thinking one sentence continuously for up to an hour... eventually three hours..." and so on.

Someone also pointed out to me - Quintscher & Lasenic: The Book of Genii. Description:

Quintscher's (and also Lasenic's) 1931 The Book of Genii is a hermetic work containing a practical description of the competencies of the 72 genii of the Mercurian sphere, the magical sigills of the genii and opposite-genii of Mercury, the genii and opposite-genii of the zodiac, and a set of talismans of the Mercurian sphere. It thus forms a fundamental and comprehensive evocation system.

The magical sigills from the Book of Genii were published in their writings by prominent Czech hermeticists of the mid-20th century, František Kabelák and Franz Bardon.

The Book of Genii (written in 1931) was one of the sources for The Practice of Magical Evocation (written in 1950s) by Franz Bardon.

Unlike that book, The Book of Genii also contains the signs of the counter-genii of the spheres of Mercury and the Zodiac.

A unique lodge work that has been published in color only in Czech and English.

- So if we trace back to the co-author of the book, Pierre de Lasenic: -" Lasenic was associated with several esoteric groups, but is remembered for his membership in Universalia. That group was one of the largest in pre-World War II Czechoslovakia. All such groups were banned under the Nazi occupation during the war and then still banned under communism".

They were probably a part of the Universalia.

Hello all, I think this is a really nice look at how someone has approached the training. Hope you enjoy. In our first interview with Erwin Pitsch, we explored the extraordinary breadth of his path—from his early practice of Franz Bardon’s system and involvement in Rosicrucian and Martinist traditions to Kerning, yoga, the Jhānas, Theosis and the possibility of the Rainbow Body. That conversation introduced a practitioner whose conclusions were shaped not by loyalty to a single school, but by decades of sustained work across Western esotericism and Eastern contemplative traditions. Franz Bardon and the Missing Path with Baron Erwin Pitsch: Inner Alchemy, the Sacred Letters and Liberation

All pages are completely readable and in pretty good condition outside of usual aging on outside