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Second Circuit: 1A Protects Right to Film Police Station Exteriors, But Filming Still Can Create RAS to Require You To ID or Face Arrest

Case: Massimino v. Benoit, No. 25-1104 (2d Cir. Aug. 17, 2026). (concurrence)

Facts: Keith Massimino, a self-described “First Amendment auditing hobbyist,” was filming outside the Waterbury Police Department in Connecticut on October 30, 2018. Massimino walked around the exterior of the building recording the police station, including the entrance to the Youth Division and an open-air garage containing police vehicles. At all times he remained on a public sidewalk.

After about six and a half minutes, Officers Benoit and Laone approached him. Massimino said he was “a journalist getting content for a story,” but declined to answer their follow-up questions. The officers told Massimino that he was not allowed to videotape the police station and asked him for identification, indicating that they were concerned he might be planning some type of attack on the building. Massimino refused to provide identification. The officers then told him that providing identification was a “lawful order.” Massimino again refused and was arrested.

Massimino was charged with violating Connecticut’s interference-with-police statute, Conn. Gen. Stat. § 53a-167a. He was held for several hours and released. The criminal charge was ultimately dismissed approximately two and a half years later.

Massimino filed a §1983 civil rights lawsuit alleging that the officers violated his First Amendment right to record the police station, unlawfully detained and arrested him in violation of the Fourth Amendment, and maliciously prosecuted him. The District Court granted summary judgment to the officers on all claims. Massimino appealed.

First Amendment Right to Record

ISSUE: Whether the First Amendment protects the right to record law enforcement activity in public, including publicly visible portions of a police station from a public sidewalk.

HOLDING: Yes. The Second Circuit, for the first time, expressly recognized a First Amendment right to record law enforcement activity in public. The court further held that this right includes recording publicly visible portions of a police station from a public sidewalk.

RATIONALE: The Second Circuit joins eight other federal circuits that have previously recognized a right to record law enforcement activity in public. The court concluded that recording is itself part of the process of creating speech and that recording law enforcement also serves the important First Amendment interest in gathering and distributing information about government activity.

As to the police station itself, the court focused on the fact that Massimino remained on a public sidewalk and recorded only what was visible from there. The fact that some of the areas he could see were themselves nonpublic did not change the analysis. Massimino was not claiming a right to enter those areas; he was claiming the right to record information that the government had already exposed to ordinary public observation.

The officers also effectively conceded that Massimino could stand on the sidewalk and verbally describe the same supposedly sensitive portions of the building. The court rejected the argument that the government could permit someone to observe and describe this information, but categorically prohibit him from recording it by video.

The court did not hold that the right to film is unlimited. Instead, it specifically leaves open whether the government could impose appropriately tailored restrictions on recording particular people entering or leaving a station, nonpublic security features or other information creating concrete privacy or safety concerns. It also does not decide whether this same right extends to the exterior of other government buildings, such as schools.

Qualified Immunity

ISSUE: Whether the officers are liable for violating Massimino’s First Amendment right to record.

HOLDING: No. The officers are entitled to Qualified Immunity.

RATIONALE: Although the court concludes that the officers violated Massimino’s First Amendment rights when they categorically told him that he could not record the police station, that right was not clearly established in the Second Circuit at the time of the incident in 2018. The officers therefore cannot be held personally liable for the First Amendment violation.  Judge Raggi concurred in the result, but would not have decided the underlying First Amendment question at all because Qualified Immunity was sufficient to dispose of the claim.

Reasonable Suspicion and Detention

ISSUE: Whether the officers could lawfully detain Massimino even though his filming of the police station was protected by the First Amendment.

HOLDING: Yes. Filming the police station, standing alone, did not provide Reasonable Suspicion. But under the totality of the circumstances, the officers had sufficient Reasonable Suspicion to conduct a Terry stop.

RATIONALE: The court first determines when Massimino was actually detained. The officers were permitted to approach Massimino, ask what he was doing, ask questions and request identification without turning the encounter into a Fourth Amendment seizure. The encounter became a detention when the officers told Massimino that producing identification was a “lawful order,” at which point he reasonably would not have believed that he was free to refuse and leave.

The court makes clear that the fact Massimino was recording the police station was insufficient, by itself, to create Reasonable Suspicion. Someone might record a police station for architectural, political, artistic or any number of other perfectly lawful reasons.

But the court considered the totality of what the officers knew at the time of the detention. Massimino had been recording the station for an extended period, it was near dusk, the manner in which he was recording could reasonably create concerns about the security of the building, the officers were aware of recent attacks on other police stations, and the court characterized Massimino’s responses to their questions as evasive. Taken together, these facts were enough to establish Reasonable Suspicion and justify a brief investigative detention.

Discussion & Comment:  The Second Circuit finally comes around and recognizes a First Amendment right to film law enforcement activity in public, joining eight other Circuits. It goes a little further by specifically holding that someone standing on a public sidewalk has a right to record the publicly visible portions of a police station.  Though arguably, this holding could be read narrowly to just encompass exterior police station filming – I think it seems clear they mean to generally endorse the practice of public filming cops engaged in law enforcement.  They did leave a little tantalizing bone where they hinted that perhaps filming a K-12 school (or other buildings) could be treated differently.

But I think the more interesting part of the decision may be the court’s RAS (reasonable articulable suspicion) analysis.

As I once explained 7 years ago, 1A auditors seem to think there is a Jedi Mind Trick you can use on the cops.  That once you say “I am an independent journalist gathering content for a story,” the cops have to say, “you can go about your business” and they have to leave you alone.  But the court doesn’t really agree. 

The subtle part of this case is that police do NOT have to disregard the totality of the circumstances surrounding the filming when deciding whether there is reasonable suspicion of criminal activity. 

Just to toot my own horn here for a moment, I have been arguing for many years that auditors claim to be journalists, then immediately proceed to NOT behave like journalists.  Journalists are more than happy to explain who they are, what they are doing, and why.  This typically, in my view, is going to tip the scales in court, in favor of RAS.  An auditor is better off to remain MONK SILENT.  Or just say simply, “I’m not discussing my day.”

Here, Massimino had been recording the station for some time, around dusk, including the Youth Division entrance, a parking garage containing police vehicles and other portions of the building.  Massimo did answer one question, but then gave “evasive responses” to further questions.  The officers also testified that they were aware of recent attacks on police stations. The court thought those facts, considered together, were enough for a Terry stop. Importantly, the court does not say any one of these things is suspicious enough by itself, and specifically says that the filming itself is not enough.

Libertarians should pretty much hate on this decision, because in Stop-and-Identify States, it means that oddball filming – even in public – likely means that you will have to identify on demand or face arrest.  That’s because in the real-world, cops can usually convince a judge in court that they had reason to believe that the totality of the filming circumstances were suspicious.  Again, based on duration, location, time of day, responses to questions, safety & security risks, etc.  And once RAS is established, you have to ID in stop-and-ID states. My opinion.

I know many will argue that this court just ruled that filming itself isn’t suspicious.  And that is true.  But the court also made it crystal clear IMO that it is the nature of the filming in light of all the circumstances that can be suspicious.  So snapping a selfie in front of a police station isn’t suspicious.  Filming the employee entrance for 24 hours straight obviously is.  Everything in the middle is going to come down to the judge. And some people have better insights than others as to how judges are likely to rule.  At least that’s how I see it.

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u/not-personal — 14 hours ago
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LIA will receive his verdict in the CT trespassing case Thursday, September 3rd.

He just announced this on today’s video. If anybody cares . . .

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u/JoeTheShmo316 — 1 day ago
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True North Transparency planning on returning to US despite arrest warrant?

Canadian frauditor True North Transparency a.k.a. Richard Troyan bought an old RV and plans to visit California again despite his outstanding arrest warrant. Still continuing to e-beg after deleting his e-begging livestream.

u/FAEBBBQ — 2 days ago

I want lenslickers to tell me why this is acceptable behavior?

This frauditor, in my opinion was instigating a fight by calling men and women names. Now I'm not condoning him being stabbed, although I'm not shedding any tears over him.

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u/AdElegant7471 — 2 days ago

Liberty patrol media’s true colors

Still waiting to hear from LPM’s fans how this is all about rights. God the day I encounter this dweeb is the day I mask up, follow him around and just say his name out loud for the whole world to hear of what a creep he is

u/omgcaboose — 3 days ago

Long Island Audit representing himself in court 🤣

Over and over him asking the witnesses their own opinion when they keep objecting to it and he keeps doing the same thing over and over. Why is he representing himself? Hes always had a lawyer. Seems like he’s screwing himself. He thinks he’s doing so well.

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u/Hopeful-Surround-995 — 3 days ago

Has Audit the Audit committed his worst blunder ever?

In this video Audit the Audit claimed that in Nieves v. Bartlett the Supreme Court explained if a police officer retaliates against someone for filming the police that person can file a First Amendment retaliation claim against the officer.

The problem is that those words are not in the opinion of Nieves (2019) and the Supreme Court has never reviewed a right to record the police case.

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u/Tobits_Dog — 2 days ago
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Warning posters

Was messing around with Gemini and asked it to make a poster warning people about frauditors, and I have to say, it was pretty accurate. Maybe they should print these out and put them up in building lobbies.

u/Sabresfan85 — 2 days ago
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Getting Ready For Work

An art piece dedicated to all of the brave freedom fighters fighting on the front lines against the nosy and creepy surveillance of the postal service and the tyrannical people in the DMV who are only there to restrict your Right to travel. Heil SeanPaul!

u/TheRealSaltyB — 3 days ago

This lenslicker wants to prove to me that there are multiple wins by frauditors who's cases have gone to trial.

I'm making a new thread so you lenslickers can list the times frauditor's have prevailed at trial. Apparently this has occurred multiple times, so by all means show me what you have.

u/AdElegant7471 — 3 days ago

lia reyes may lose but he actually has the attributes needed to be a trial attorney if he would learn the law

in watching this trial i am surprised the judge allowed so much uncontrolled arguing between reyes and the states attorney.

while pro se usually relaxes tolerances for court rules, this trial had insults and heated exchanges throughout

it takes a lot of confidence for someone to face the intimidation of a courtroom proceeding especially when you're the one on trial

and while reyes may have made critical case errors, think about this from the argumentative perspective

reyes did an amazing job showing confidence and disdain for the accusations against him never backing down to the other side

while his legal argument may be flawed, he definitely has the characteristics that an aggressive trial attorney can always benefit from

out of all the frauditors I've watched in court, he actually carried himself well given no real legal background. other frauditors can't put two words together to make a sentence that matters.

say what you want but I expected much worse from his performance and was shocked when I saw otherwise

before you downvote ask yourself if you could match his performance in court pro se. very few of you could.

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u/deadendstreetz — 3 days ago

Addressing the DJE Media situation

Context: This channel uploaded a long documentary covering DJE Media. The video got taken down by a defamation complaint. Seems any video criticising DJE Media, himself or an associate of his will get it taken down

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u/General_Townski — 3 days ago

I watched the LIA/Fahey court video...

The full court video is 2+ hours. I skipped through all of the police officers being called after i realized it was a boring discussion of what the no trespassing sign looked like and what condition it was in.

Quick thoughts on the back and forth between LIA and Fahey from a non lawyer and, as you may know if youve seen me here, i think both of these guys are a waste of time and space.

-LIA is hopelessly outmatched in this setting. As one example, he was trying to articulate a question to Fahey to demonstrate that Fahey had never explicitly told him to not visit his home or contact him. Fahey reiterated over and over that as a convicted felon, LIA shouldnt be on Fahey's property. LIA had no idea how to counter and I feel like a real attorney would have been able to fight that. LIA's "best" counter was "Im not on trial here" and Fahey pointed out that yes indeed, he is.

-Fahey is an angry man with impulse control issues. He did ok here, but hes just an angry guy. LIA got in trouble for provoking him, but the guy takes the bait way too often.

-After saying he had no further questions, LIA looked at Fahey and very clearly mouthed "bitch" to which Fahey said something like "what was that?I couldnt hear you" and LIA tried backpeddling and said something like "just answer the questions."

I think the case against LIA isnt very strong, but hes doing such a bad job here, that he just might lose.

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u/TheFakeBillPierce — 4 days ago