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High water table - deeper sump basin advisable? AI says no

Hi, I hope this is not against the subs rules. We purchased a new construction home in the northeast in an area with a high water table around 2021 and our basement flooded during Hurricane Ida. Since then I've tried to become more knowledgable on how to mitigate the flooding and after hiring about 4 or 5 local plumbers I realize this is probably outside of their expertise. I've been turning to AI for advice - which I know can also get me into trouble. So that's why I'm here.

Here's our setup for context. The builders put two sump pumps connected via the interior perimeter drain on opposite sides of the house with the secondary pump sitting a bit higher.

The primary pump runs 24/7 and we've replaced it 3 times since we moved in. It sits in a standard 18x24" basin and pumps to the sewer. The secondary pump will only activate if the primary fails and it pumps to the storm drain underground. We also have a generator. There's 3 pipes going into the primary basin (I believe two from the interior perimeter drain and one from outside).

The plumbers and basement waterproofing companies who have looked at our situation all give contrary advise with some advising to set the primary pump at the extreme top of the basin right below the basement floor (where the pump may run continuously for 40+ minutes and be off for an hour) and others advising to put it all the way on the bottom (where it will be on for 10 seconds and off for 10 seconds - which they say will stop after 1 week).

I had forced the last plumber to install a Hydrocheck float switch which allows me to set the on and off points anywhere in the basin (we zip tied the Zoeller's float switch so that it's always on).

* Sump Pump: Zoeller M137 sitting on the bottom of the pit
* Off point: Close to the base of the pump and below all pipes in the basin
* On point: Completely above 2 of the inlet pipes and 3/4 up the 3rd inlet (the highest one).

When we first set this up the pump would run for ~6 minutes and be off for 12 minutes. But now it runs for 3.5 minutes and is off for 5.5 minutes which seems too frequent. Also, I noticed the drain from outside cannot fully drain into the sump basin as the Zoeller 137 pumps out the basin too quickly. And I feel we're in no better situation to handle a hurricane type storm than when we first moved in.

I thought installing a larger basin adjacent to this main basin would allow the primary pump to pump a bit longer while keeping the interior perimeter drains emptier. Zoeller sells a 30x36" basin and a 36x36" basin. And my idea was to connect this second basin with a 4" pipe at the bottom. Besides additional capacity, with the second basin I can have the pumps alternate to avoid burn out, or in the hurricane scenario, both run simultaneously. AI has advised against putting a deeper basin as it says I'll create a cone of depression where a greater amount of water will flow in at a higher rate:

>Google Gemini:
By deepening the pit, you increase the hydrostatic pressure difference between the surrounding soil and the empty basin. The water will rush in significantly faster, increasing the total volume of water your pump has to move without actually making your basement any drier.

Is AI right here? AI thinks I should go wider but not deeper with a second basin. No one makes a wider 24" basin so it would have to be custom. Local plumber friend thinks I'm overreacting and should leave it as-is. My wife thinks we should put a french drain on the outside and I'm open to that as well. If this was your house, outside of moving out, what would you do or who would you contact?

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u/nogridbag — 3 days ago
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How to and with what to backfill the voids of shoring?

Hi, a soil improvement is being made for a shallow foundation as shown in the diagram (walers, props and timber planks not shown for clairty).

Solder piles are to be removed once backfill is complete. It would not be much of an issue for footings placed on normal soils, but as this is a soil improvement situation and the railway track is adjacent, I think the voids might give way for the footing to settle. Hence the thought of backfilling the voids with an appropriate material once the verticals are pulled out, before loading the footings.

So the two questions are whether backfilling is needed or not and if yes, what to backfill with and the methodology)... Any and all input on this is appreciated. TIA!

P.S. GWL is at around -2m.

Update:

  1. Railway would not be used during construction and shoring members are sized for train surcharge anyways.

  2. Grout injection is not reliable in my country. Micro piling is our preference but based on previous experience on another sector of the project, the consultant is a headache to work with when it comes to piling.

u/AnotherSLGuy — 7 days ago

Job is extremely stressful

I am a recent graduate and just started at my new job. I am working at a Geotech firm. It has been the most stressful thing I’ve ever endured so far as far as pressure. I feel so behind on everything and tasks take me a while to do. I did design parameters all week and they took me around 3 hours per day for one job. I just had to plot stuff and make graphs. (For anyone who knows how design parameters in geotechnical engineering work). It has also been 2 years since I’ve taken my Geotech course, and I forgot a lot of material to the point where it all feels completely new. So far I am 2 months into this job… I’ve dealt with a lot of stress and pressure before, I was doing full time classes while also working throughout most of college, I’ve studied hard for all of my courses and passed with a 3.7 GPA my last semester. All throughout high school I was a fairly decent student and I went to a college prep school. I never felt behind like this before, but it’s been eating at my self esteem and causing anxiety. To make things worse, my supervisor called me into his office and said “I am not to where he expected someone from undergrad to be” meaning he basically thought I would know more about Geotech. This made me feel 10x worse about all of it. He just said I should study for the FE and review some Geotech. The thing is.. as I said it’s just been 2 years since I took the course, and I have had a lot happen in my life since, so of course I forgot a lot of it. When does it get better…

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u/Express_Day2403 — 6 days ago

Determine the Master Thesis Topic

Hello everyone. I need your help in determining my Master's thesis topic. I want to focus on earthquakes and soil improvement for my thesis. The topic I have in mind is the effect of prefabricated vertical drains (PVDs) on settlement and liquefaction under seismic loads. I am also interested in rammed stone columns. I am looking for something outside of conventionally studied subjects. What are your suggestions?
Thanks for your help.

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u/kaankayiskiran — 5 days ago
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GeoEQ SPT Logs — a free SPT borelog software for the community. Feedback is welcome.

Hello everyone,

I want to share something our team has been working on that may help those of you preparing SPT borehole logs, especially if your office still relies on Excel templates.

GeoEQ SPT Logs is a free Windows desktop application for borehole logging. You enter depths, blow counts, samples, and strata descriptions, and the log sheet draws itself live: soil symbols, USCS classification in bold, the N-value profile, groundwater marker, and automatic pagination for deep borings.

A few things that may be useful in practice:

  • Unlimited projects and boreholes in a single file
  • Full customization with your own company name.
  • Import of existing Excel/CSV sheets — non-standard headings open a column-mapping window, and files carrying only N-values (no blow counts) work too
  • One click exports every borehole of a project into a single print-ready PDF with your company letterhead and logo
  • Fully offline — data stays in plain files on your machine, nothing leaves your computer
  • Two packages: a normal installer, and a portable zip for company laptops where installation is restricted

There's a built-in demo project so you can see a finished log in the first minute.

I would genuinely value this community's judgment on it: what would it need before you'd trust it on a real project? Custom columns (N60, N1(60)), other log formats, different standards? The feature roadmap will be built from what practicing engineers actually ask for.

Download, screenshots and manual: https://github.com/geoeq/SPT-Borelogs

u/SatisfactionFar3936 — 10 days ago

PE Exam Advice

Hey yall!

I'm a recent grad (Environmental engineering) and I'm a month into my job as a geotech. I took my FE (Environmental) earlier this year and passed despite only studying for 3 days. I guess my school prepared me well. I want to take the PE exam soon, but I'm not sure which discipline to take.

Environmental has the highest pass rate, Civil: water resources and Environmental seems to be most popular from what I see on LinkedIn, but I'm most interested in Civil: geotech. I didn't take many geotech classes during my undergrad, so I feel like this would require more studying. I'm currently working on civil site design, did my capstone on stormwater, had a geotech construction internship, and I'm also interested in hazardous waste remediation.

Do you have any advice for me on which discipline exam to take? Does it really matter? How long should I study for? What were your experiences like with studying for these exams? My job will pay for me to do a PE exam prep course.

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u/tabbyrecurve — 13 days ago