r/HecarimMains

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adding this for context just so you can have some numbers in your head and what the buff wouldve done at certain ability haste thresholds . imo late game when your laners just take your camps for themselves and you dont want to show on wave before a fight theres no practical way to get Q stacks, getting this buff wouldve meant that later on its easier to enter fights and not be useless for 3 seconds straight before stacking Q sadge

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i mean its kinda nice QOL change and i really do think hecarim doesnt need a straight out buff but what caused this? i think genuinely nobody really cares about this and it will reduce his skill floor by a bit since you probably can start fight in mid to late game with only 1 Q stack and ramp it up quick enough without really being punished for it , like who was sitting at riots desk and thought nah lets make his Q cooldown lower and the reduction smaller so basically nothing really happens

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what do you do against nasus?

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this guy was playing midlane, riven was shoving the wave all game so he just got free stacks in early game. all of our teammates were ahead by then..after shen gave him 1 shutdown he bought deathdance as his second item and we just got demolished first teamfight ? the tilt is unreal what do you even do if u cant gank nasus ?

What do you think about hubris rush into eclipse -> t2 omnivamp boots -> shojin -> axiom -> seryldas. I've seen everyone going hubris recently, and I think this build with eclipse has some good assassin potential. It's similar to zed build.

My fellow hobby-horsing league players, I have a problem

I seem to be making the mistake of trying to get my q stacks up/keeping them up before I join the fight but that makes it really hard for my team to know what I will be doing and hard for me to really react to key things that are happening.

In games where the horse snowballs out of control it doesn't matter, because then we decide everything that is happening and it feels great. This does not happen everytime though, and I would also like to enjoy the horse in a tat more even games.

Any tips on how to keep q-stacks during or before mid/late game teamfights, flanks, etc?

Cheers.

I started building eclipse -> cleaver again since they got buffed
It feels so good

what do u guys think about rushing deaths dance when playing conqueror ? or rushing black cleaver cause ive seen huncho doing both of these builds and it seems kinda good like dd-bc-eh or bc-dd-eh .

I really enjoyed playing Eclipse Hecarim when that was meta. I think the buffs are pretty good to the item, do you think it'll ever be buildable?

Bastion Breaker may be the single most broken rush item that Hecarim's had since Duskblade.

AS many of you may know from reading patch notes, Riot has really wanted Bastion Breaker to be picked up a lot more, mainly by Assassins in mid and jungle so they lowered the cost and buffed the item up quite a bit to the point where it may be a sleeper OP pick on multiple champions (most aggregate sites seem to confirm this with hard data, its the highest win% first item spike for almost every AD jungler that can comfortably go it).

For those of you who don't know, the way the item works is it deals true damage on hit based on lethality (pair with voltaic for big damag) and 2nd passive is whenever you get a kill, you deal a massive amount of true damage to the next tower or dragon/baron, which allows you to REALLY speed up taking objectives off of early teamfights or ganks to the point where you can snowball the game out of control. I have been using the item to kill 2 plates from just the proc alone, so you gank, push wave with laner, hit tower and it knocks off half the tower, so 2 ganks = tower gone in the lane.

So basically with just a few ganks you can pretty much remove all the enemy towers up to their inhibs and force them to play in their half of the map, which lets you then safely invade the enemy jungler and take his camps (and because you're Hecarim you can farm all of his while clearing all of your own) and lets you take dragons and barons much easier.

If you pair it with Voltaic secondary it does make you squishier but it also lets you pretty much delete anyone in 2 Q's and REALLY reminds me of Manamune/Duskblade hecarim from way back in the day. Your ability procs the Voltaic, you get a TON of extra lethality, which procs your Bastion baker Passive (true damage on ability hit based on lethality) which then nets you a kill to then push the enemy towers / get dragons.

tl;dr If you play correctly with this item it will allow you to open up the map 10x faster, snowball out of control and get 3 pentas in 2 days like I did (bear in mind I was testing this build on my diamond smurf so YMMV since my skill level was a lot higher than enemy but I feel like the data backs it up with this item having 4-5% higher winrate than any other rush item for Hecarim currently, and the pickrate is increasing as people are building it more).

Dantes tried it as well and was cooking some builds with it the other day.

I genuinely cannot figure out how to effectively play this champ. I cant find out what his strengths are. All i know is he is fast asf, and clears fasts asf. Other than that i dont know what phases of the game are his strongest. Definitely not late game. and early game also feels kinda weak. i mean his gank potential is pretty great. but what about after that. it really is skill issue i guess but his team fighting sucks in my experience, and he isnt good in 1v1s either. what should i be building maybe im building him wrong idk.