r/Hoyoverse_scaling

Let's end this debate once and for all

Let's end this debate once and for all

I saw someone mention Nicole and Zibai are hard to scale with, and I thought of Durin as well, using the current information we have.

How would you scale this characters from the Weakest to Strongest.

"IF" :

Top 1 is Columbina

Top 2 - 8 are Neuvilette, Skirk, Ei, Mavuika, Zhongli, Venti, and Nahida ( Yes I know people scale Nahida lower, but whatever. )

Who are the Top 9 - 10 onwards Characters within it, and which Characters can be exchanged with the Top 2 - 8 if they scale higher??

EDIT :

Okay, this is the question so all of you won't be confused :

  1. ⁠Between the Playable Character's within the Image I posted which one are the Weakest to Strongest Characters??

  2. ⁠If you're ever gonna make a Top 10 Characters, which once are you adding in??

u/KashiraTempest — 8 hours ago

Since both Vox (Hazbin Hotel) and the Tsaritsa (Genshin Impact) aim to overthrow the current rulers of their respective worlds, would things go well if they swapped places?

u/AdMiserable6694 — 14 hours ago

Are there any playable and non-playable characters in HSR who can stand on the surface of of a Neutron Star which have a gravity 100–300 billion× stronger than Earth's gravity, extremely high radiation, and a surface temperature of 1–10 million °C?

u/Sir_Rain_Knee_Tea — 14 hours ago

Do you agree that they are the Top 3 strongest "god level" playable characters?

In genshin "God level" range can vary a lot but generally its agreed that its basically for character that are just below the "Archon level" in strength but are strong enough to fight or beat other powerful gods like Andreius, decrabian, Osiel...ect

If we exclude the 2 " hard to scale angels" (Nicole and Zibai) those 3 should be the strongest god level, right? ( i know that current traveler could possibly be archon level but i am still not sure)

Another question, do you think that those 3 working together can beat Raiden Ei in a fight ?

Would Batman with preparation time beat the Archons

If he has sent into Tevyat and had time to prepare against them could he win with preparation time?

u/Hairy-Friendship-422 — 20 hours ago

Could deliverance Kevin beat demiurge Cyrene and/or khaslana Phainon?

This is deliverance Kevin with the authority of finality (though that’s kind of a given).

Round 1: Kevin vs Khaslana

Round 2: Kevin vs Cyrene

Round 3: Kevin vs Cyrene AND Khaslana

Bonus round: Cyrene vs Khaslana

Who wins each round and at what difficulty?

u/SinisterScaler — 14 hours ago

Current Paimonlusted Traveler vs Inazuma AQ Raiden

Let's say you just dropped this version of Traveler into the Inazuma AQ when Raiden attacks them. Are they now strong enough to defeat her? Or at least make her put in some effort?

u/ShadyZert — 2 days ago

Traveler vs the armies of the 7 nations( no archons)

Can any of the armies of the 7 nations beat traveler in a fight?

Mondstadt: all of the Knights of favonius

Liyue : all of the millelith( plz ignore the terrible spelling in the picture lol)+ adepti+ Ningguang and Keqing

Inazuma: Idk what happened to the Resistance fighters after the civil war ended but lest say they basically joined the shogunet army

Sumeru: all of the matra and Eremites( only the 13th corps ) + hat guy and sethos because why not

Fontaine: idk if fontaine even have an official army so lest just make a team consist of :maison gardiennage+ marechaussee phantom+ meropide guards + spina di Rosula + all of the robots,

Natlan : basically the whole nation except Mavuika and the few non fighters lol

Snezhnaya: all living and active Fatui so no Capitano, Dottore, Columbina, scaramouche and la signora, You can also choose if you want to include Pierro or not

Edit : think of it as Gauntlet / tournament starting form traveler vs KoF and ends with traveler vs the fatui, traveler still advances to the next round even if he lose

u/Difficult-Injury4062 — 2 days ago

Can the Archons/Neuvillette breathe in outer space?

I’m a little curious since Traveler/Paimon/Columbina could breathe in space but what do you think?

u/Davinci-00 — 2 days ago

How would you scale Phainon in his base form and in Khaslana form to Worm(Paragumans) verse?

Despite to things looks strange, the Worm verse is still has very strong characters in different stats. Especially those Entities. How would you scale Phainon ins his base form and in Khaslana one to this verse? Would he become successful to save humanity or even with full power of his second form it's still wouldn't be enough?

u/Busy-Appearance8886 — 2 days ago

Could Mcu Jean Grey no diff the Void Hunters?

Basically after i watched Spiderman: Brand New Day, her hax is strong a shit, because she can control people with telepathy, and after her rage amp, she can control various people at the same time and control things around her

So during a figth could she instantly end the figth with her telepath, and make them kill themselves, and lets forget none of them have anti mind control abilitys so Jean Grey easily beat them?

To be honest, I have a few issues with HI3's power scaling.

It’s like how the characters in *Honkai Impact 3rd* are all considered "universal-level+" due to things like the Sea of ​​Quanta or the Imaginary Tree, even though most of them neither dish out nor tank city-level attacks.

u/AdMiserable6694 — 2 days ago

Just realized that Nanook healing himself doesn't NECESSARILY break his Primum Mobile

So this moment has been kinda... controversial in the HSR community. Nanook healing from a scratch left by Phainon after he incinerated himself seems like it goes against the idea of Aeons being unable to diverge from their Primum Mobile. I mean, he's Destruction. He should destroy and only destroy, right?

Well, uh... not exactly.

A point some people tend to not exactly ignore, but certainly gloss over, is the nature of Paths as described to us. Yes, they are concepts given form as sources of power... but they're very specifically philosophical concepts. They were never these hyper-literal ideas that only work one specific way, there's a wide variety of means that one could use to follow a given Path. Voracity eats for many different reasons with many different endgoals, Preservation protects for many different reasons with many different endgoals, so on and so forth.

Destruction is, more than likely, the greatest example of this. It is directly shown through Amphoreus that the ultimate extreme of every Path is it turning into a form of Destruction, even ones that directly conflict with it on paper like Preservation or Abundance. And it makes sense; ideas about destroying the world to "remake it in your own image" or "have something better rise from the ashes"... are still ideas that revolve around destruction as their core.

If protection and healing can ultimately become destruction, then why would Nanook healing himself be breaking his Primum Mobile? Perhaps we've simply been misunderstanding what his Primum Mobile actually is.

u/Thomas20021023 — 3 days ago