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Remembering details from VERY early on in the investigation being reported on by press…

Does anyone remember any details from the very early days of the investigation that seemed to have been scrubbed from the internet or that you had forgotten about until recently?

I very clearly remember multiple sources claiming that roommates and/or LE were not able to enter Xana’s room because there was a dresser or some other piece of furniture that was barricaded inside, so it was a struggle to get her door open. This has been driving me crazy, I can’t find any trace of this anywhere!

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u/aed1215 — 1 day ago

"Dot Comes Clean" with Birdie

In this video Dot explains the truth behind her lie. Whatever you think of her, this is a very interesting interview.

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u/CuteFactor8994 — 2 days ago
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Well, Well, Well... 🤔, will you look at this! Food for Thought.

I've been saying, since the beginning, that IMO *rugs are somewhere in the picture - whether directly a part of the crime itself, or in necessitating a cover-up to protect an ongoing federal investigation, the town (ie: economy directly dependent on UoI enrollment), powerful folks connected to the trafficking and/or lower-level slinging/slingers, etc. I've also said repeatedly - and been on the receiving end of tremendous vitriol - for saying using college kids as slingers for them to make extra pocket change is a tale as old as time.

ETA: NOTE THAT SIGMA CHI IS ONE OF THE TWO FRATS IMPLICATED IN THE DEALING AT PENN STATE!

ETA: And there are possible additional implications here - read the story! - about the suspicious deaths of young students at UoI in the era of the 1122 murders, particularly the bull💩 official reason given for the death of the frat brother, (can't think of name off the top of my head, Hudson?) aka alleged "accidental drowning"🙄 - in the article, it states frat pledges were forced to package coke as part of hazing. Common sense says any students threatening to expose what was going on would definitely be in danger. Big money and power at higher levels. And - might be totally unrelated - but I've always found it curious that residents of 1122 all abruptly dropped out of their sororities that year. Lastly, the audio allegedly of Ethan: "But I thought we were brothers..." (Not meaning biological brothers, IMO.)

u/MamaKat727 — 3 days ago

If you could re-interview AnYoNe in this case, who? And what would you ask?!

Post each person you would have questions for separately from someone else you’d like to re-interview so when replied to, no one is confused who you are asking the question(s) to…..

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u/theredwinesnob — 4 days ago
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Why didn’t Dylan try to warn Xana or get her up to run from danger too?

I keep coming back to this part of the PCA because it does not make sense no matter how you angle it.

Dylan says she saw a masked man inside the house. She was scared enough to go downstairs toward Bethany’s room. She also supposedly saw Xana lying on the floor.

But here is the issue nobody ever explains:

The twinkle lights in Xana’s room were on.
The twinkle lights by the bar cart were on.
The twinkle lights behind the couch were on.

This was not a dark house. There was ambient light everywhere on that level.

So if Dylan truly believed a masked man was in the house, enough to run downstairs in fear, why would she not try to warn Xana
Why would she not try to wake her
Why would she not try to get her to run too

If you think someone dangerous is inside your home, leaving a friend lying on the floor without even trying to get them up makes no sense. The reaction does not match the situation she claims she perceived.

I am not pushing a theory. I am pointing out a logical gap that has never been addressed. Curious how others interpret this.

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u/Jumpy_Lion_6938 — 5 days ago

Goncalves' interview with Sean Hannity - I have questions

For those who watched this interview, did you pick up on what Steve G was saying about security for his family and the crime being targeted? Why was he so concerned that someone was coming for his family and talking about cameras and perimeter security?

And when Kristie G starts talking about how she thought the target was Kaylee, Sean asks her why and she gets all humina humina, and tries to change the answer to either Kaylee or Maddie, and makes a nonsense answer. Seems like she has other reasons that they feel the target was Kaylee IMO.

I saw someone else mentioned they got a protective order against his brother Nathan who is in prison for manslaughter.

Is it possible that there is some sort of hidden family fued that no one but them knows about? I also thought Kaylee's grandpa died earlier in 2022. Does anyone know the cause? Could Steve's brother be affiliated with a gang who may have the means to carry out a hit on someone, or be a link to the cocaine JD mentioned?

I realize she sold her Subaru and immediately put the money she got into the down payment for the used Range Rover. But what sort of job was she going to in Texas, and for what company? Is the rumor that Adam took that job instead true?

So many potential avenues never got explored it seems.

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u/Shakethe8ball — 4 days ago

Why I Think DM Was Involved Based on Evidence

I've been following this case since it first happened in 2022 as it was only a few days after my birthday and now since it's been back in the news I figured I would make my first post since I cannot deny there is something very shady and off about Dylan Mortensen's behavior. Here are the reasons why to the best of my memory and sleuthing:

  1. Invited KG for that specific weekend after KG had already moved out (hastily).

  2. Heard "It's Ok I'm here to help

  3. you" from Killer; "someone's here" from Xana; and "KG playing with her dog", But Did Not Hear Any Screams or Other Noises At All during the unaliving of 4 people both before/during/after.

  4. Bloody Shoe print (Converse) Directly in Front of her door within 1". Dylan owns a pair of Converse seen in pictures.

  5. Ran past Xana who was on the floor likely in a pile of blood seeping into the hallway which likely had a pungent odor.

  6. Saw the killer but was not murdered.

  7. Waited 8 hours+ to call police.

  8. Stated she "didn't know them like that" regarding MM and KG in bodycam interview.

  9. Changed her story multiple times and can't remember anything right.

  10. Said she was drunk yet her friend stated in an interview Dylan did not drink that night.

  11. Added "Brittany Fernande" in her phone around 3:51am. Meaning she was Awake.

  12. Never bothered to check the house or roommates herself.

  13. Her Apple Watch showed movement and change of elevation around 5am among other activity.

  14. Started a GoFundMe immediately after cashing in $100K+.

  15. Was Seen Partying Weeks After the Murders by other students and locals.

  16. Her boyfriend Quinn Kelley was trafficking drugs (admitted by several who know him) from Boise to Moscow and the University of Idaho.

  17. Dylan Mortensen's Bloody Jacket.

  18. Dylan was editing and deleting pictures while also scrolling IG and SnapChat from 5:02AM until 11:52AM per her call logs.

  19. If Dylan was a Man, he would be in jail still as a Person of Interest from this kind of behavior.

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u/Charming-Tension-809 — 5 days ago

Hunter entered door code at 1122 King RD #idaho4murders #idaho4update #t...

More lies from Hunter - He claimed he entered the code to get into the house that morning.
Why would you need to do that if both the front and back doors are wide open???

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u/Artissin — 4 days ago
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Xana's Vape

I had posted awhile back, questioning where Xana's vape was found? I'm just following up to say I found it!

Although, there is no mention of it anywhere in the documents it is pictured in the ISP Crime Scene Photos Batch #5

u/Rarity22 — 7 days ago
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Ethan wearing Xana's JuJu's Smith-Shuster Steelers Jersey at Sigma Chi

I've been speculating as to what EC and XK where wearing. It took me a very long time to figure out that this photo was at Sigma Chi. However due to the length of EC's hair, mustache and beard stubble. I do believe this could of been taken the night of.

Evidence photos of the jersey can be found in Crime Scene Photos Batch #5

u/Rarity22 — 7 days ago

Answer me this

There are so many creators out there who believe in multiple perps or that BK is innocent. Either way, especially with the numbers they get in, why not help? Perhaps they are silently behind the scenes and I hope so but at the same time- they’d get a lot more money crowdfunding their listeners for a proper lawyer. Sure, anyone can do this but I’m specifically asking about those who have a platform and take a profit on this issue and seemingly do nothing about it.

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u/Rainbow_Brite456 — 8 days ago
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TRUKILLAKRIME

Hey all of you, now I know these audio recordings could be fake/doctored but has anyone ever heard this before or know of this Cara chick? And what do you make of what is on the recording?

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u/Public_Peach1980 — 7 days ago
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Blood Outside of House - Doesn't add up with body cam

You know what really grind my gears...
No one has mentioned the relationship between body cam footage of the OUTSIDE of the house and what was shown in the crime scene photos..... they walk up to the house and there is not an OUNCE of blood on the outside....

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u/Straight_Payment1579 — 8 days ago
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Doesn’t make sense

  1. If Bk only had 15 minutes to do the unaliving of 4 people, and all of it happened in the bedrooms, how is there blood on the ping pong table.
  2. If you guys have watched the CCTV footage, all the crazy screams actually starts at 2:25. Most of it is missing from 3:30am onwards till 3:57am I believe. And then you can hear the whimper and thud at 4:17 which is claimed to be XK.
    Why doesn’t the LE talk about that commotion ever.
  3. How did the kids around campus know of the unalivings before 911 was called??

- my theory is that if it was rug shakedown, and if DM planned the shakedown to scare the MM and KG because MM had told Adam everything apparently. She also apparently flushed some rugs down the toilet right. She just wanted to scare em with whoever else was involved. Which ultimately ended up getting the two girls unalived possibly.

During this time EC was passed out and maybe XK heard something went to investigate and ended up being unalived as well. Probably during this time ( missing audio and footage) I think EC also woke up and that’s when he was unalived. Thats why we can mostly hear female screams.

The whimper is of XK, she was still possibly alive and then the suspect just finished the job. Thats why we hear a whimper and not a scream at 4:17am. It only makes sense that if you’re running from a killer you’d probably yell your lungs out or maybe not I’m not sure. But a whimper for the kind of injury she has, I would probably expect from someone who was just getting up from sleep rather than someone who’s wide awake.

There’s so much that doesn’t make sense to me. I’m going crazy thinking about it. It’s not the impossibility of it happening in the short time they claim it happened, it’s the cctv footage screams I’ve heard from 2:25am. That’s not normal.

u/Saltypasta65 — 12 days ago

One Guy

One Person

Does one person have the capability to kill 4 people (one of which was an athletic 6'4"/220), on 2 separate floors of a house AND clean himself to the point he tracks no blood outside OR into his car (that he was dumb enough to use, even after geniusly accomplishing the rest) AND reset parts of the crime scene....

in 9 minutes????

Now.....if someone or someoneS had nearly 8 established, or possibly even 10, hours... 🤔

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u/Realistic_Product252 — 12 days ago