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Why Indian Cities still largely rely on bus conductors?
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Why Indian Cities still largely rely on bus conductors?

Why do Indian cities still majorly rely on a bus conductor to manually give tickets to passengers? Most of the rest of the world's intra-city buses have largely automated this system to either self validation machines within the bus or at the bus stations (with few exceptional routes). And they use surprise check-ups with a high fine rate to prevent people from hitching a free ride. Having one less person operate the bus can drastically reduce the bus fare or increase revenue that can be used elsewhere (like upgrading the bus stations, or regular bus cleaning or increase the number of buses to reduce load).

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Edit1: "Large Population Argument": large population requires a large number of buses. Tokyo has a much higher population compared to most indian cities but they still pull it off.

"Unemployment Argument": With increased saving that can facilitate the increase in the number of buses, The demand for drivers will increase and employment will stay the same.

"Low trust society argument": Low trust society is a symptom caused by bad service. As mentioned, having a surprise checkup with a high fine rate and probable felony charges can be implemented until the trust level increases.

u/HotPuppy420 — 3 days ago

Urban planning & my personal experience

Recently,I have started taking interest in Urban planning & related concepts.Before this, i wasn't aware that thing like "Urban Planning" exists. Also since I live in an unauthorised colony in Delhi so such things are alien to me.

Last month, i decided to go nearest metro station from my home by walking & using public transport.

Distance from Metro station to Home- 6.5 Km

Distance from nearest bus stop- 1.3 Km

From Home to Bus stop-

Option 1 : By walking- Time taken 16 Minutes

Option 2 : By E Rickshaw- 7 Minutes

From Bus stop to Metro station-

By DEVI Bus- 15 Minutes

Problems faced:-

  1. No Sidewalk/Footpath plus encrochments on road side

  2. Heavy dust on the road

  3. Hot weather & direct sunlight. No green cover on road side.

  4. No reliable tracking of Bus. Bus Frequency is 20 min & more. No Bus shelter.

  5. Using bicycle is not possible due to lack of bicycle lane & dangerous driving by motorist.

Only option i have is to left my current locality & move to a planned area of Delhi but some issues will remain there also. I don't how serious is our govt in urban planning & mass public transit, I guess only time will tell.

Also today i learned that we have a National TOD Policy(2017):

https://mohua.gov.in/upload/whatsnew/59a4070e85256Transit\_Oriented\_Developoment\_Policy.pdf

If anyone want to share their personal experience, please do share.

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u/Far-Salt6655 — 3 days ago

A potential way to bring a big change in the aesthetics of urban architecture in India

Every public site under construction like streets, roads, etc. should be compulsorily enclosed with very clear signs, signal lights, or other methods like bright colored tapes (bonus: colours could be specifically assigned to different types of construction sites) showing that the site is under construction. By doing so, not only won't the ugly under-constructed part look like as if it is a part of the final construction and would actually look separate from it, but will also pressurise the authorities responsible for the construction to quickly complete it. Till now, I've only seen L&T doing this during Metro constructions. Other than that, private entities must be compulsorily made to completely and properly cover their under-construction buildings, including but obviously not limited to, skyscrapers, not only for maintaining aesthetics but also for suppressing dust related pollution.

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u/Proboi_99 — 4 days ago
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Says in India, Art Deco is architecture of the common man (as compared to displays of power in America) vs. neo-Gothic/neo-Classical structures

Also says that the rise of gated communities, the lack of integration with Navi Mumbai is hurting Mumbai's growth. Explains why it's impossible for India to create it's own national architectural style

Thoughts?

u/Odd_Wolverine_4037 — 5 days ago

Why can't this be at every single school ,university and public parks of india and even if it's given people still can't keep it clean

I was at Govandi east , Mumbai. While waiting for my friend saw this park and now I am wondering why can the municipal corporations add this kind of fitness/ gym equipments in all parks

While i agree that in mumbai most of the parks have this but they are mostly for the elder people and many of them are even broken

Making these kind of equipment available for everyone will make the coming generations of India fit

Am i wrong and what's your opinion on this ?

u/Background_One_8213 — 10 days ago

Why does this city make affordable transport so difficult? (Bike taxis)

At this point commuters are just being punished for trying to travel affordably.

Autos refuse rides, demand absurd prices, cancel constantly, act aggressively if you question them and now even bike taxis are being dragged into legal and political drama.

The Karnataka government already moved the Supreme Court against bike taxis after the High Court allowed them again. Meanwhile normal people are stuck suffering every day.

Students, office workers and middle class people used bike taxis because they were cheap, fast and actually available. Not everyone can afford cabs daily and not everyone lives next to a metro station.

And before someone says “just use public transport” yes metro and buses help but this city still has a massive last mile problem.

What kind of city wants affordable transport options removed instead of regulating them properly?

Then people ask why India struggles with infrastructure and urban planning. This is exactly why. Every practical solution becomes politics, lobbying or ego fights while commuters waste hours and money every single week.

People are not asking for luxury. They just want reliable and affordable transport without harassment.

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u/Balaji7nr — 10 days ago
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An idea to Stop India's traffic noise pollution

I have been traveling a lot lately by road and frequently encounter people who press the horn as if it’s nothing; they feel no hesitation while doing so. After giving some thought to this matter, I have an idea: we could apply a limit on how many times a driver can blow the horn or for what total duration. Once the limit is reached, the owner would have to take the vehicle to a dealer to get it reset and pay a required fee. If the owner uses a third-party method to fix it, their insurance would either be revoked or they would have to pay a hefty sum of money to restore the vehicle's legal status. I know there are many flaws in this plan, but you could suggest some amendments and make it a real-world solution

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u/Exciting-Barnacle677 — 12 days ago