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A reflection on yesterday's Zoom meeting

What we talked about yesterday—an attempt, an impression: it began with a contribution to K’s statements on the self and thought/feeling, and how they are connected. And that these connections can be observed and verified, so that one doesn’t simply believe them, but sees the truth in them. Then we talked about the faith in which we were raised and whether we currently have a religious practice.

We touched on the topic of whether self-knowledge ( an insight in the constant stream of thought, thoughts of revenge, anger, self-pity) leads to the permanent cessation of these phenomena, or whether the awareness of these thoughts/feelings creates a certain freedom or a kind of space, but not a complete cessation.

We tried to explore whether there is a kind of instinctive, direct action or feeling as opposed to conditioned action.

The former could occur in the face of imminent danger (a car speeding toward you, from which you step back; a chasm opening up; a snake in front of you), or the direct sensation of something being wrong—a child or a dog being beaten. In such cases, there seems to be no right or wrong, but only this action or only the sensation of wrongness.

The latter is based on moral or traditional values; something is judged as wrong or right, depending on what one believes.

It could be that we do not recognize our hidden conditioning as such, but instead regard it as an unquestionable reality.

What were your impressions?

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u/Schute-Pin8350 — 5 days ago
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Knowledge based on stories

We are living in our own subjective reality based in thought - and our distorted way of perceiving the world, our irrational behavior or intellectual dishonesty has been studied for a while now.
Many of us are familiar with concepts like the : Dunning-Kruger effect, confirmation bias or cognitive dissonance.   All of which are to do with our primitive and confused relationship with ideas.

The Dunning-Kruger effect can be summarized as the feeling of knowledge and understanding that occurs when we adopt a narrative.  For example when we feel that we understand the subject after merely hearing one short story about quantum physics.

Confirmation bias is our natural tendency to notice everything that confirms that my belief is correct, and to ignore the stuff that proves me wrong.

Cognitive dissonance is the problem of holding beliefs that contradict each other, and the emotional stress this creates. - eg. wanting to smoke and not wanting to smoke at the same time.

In dialogue, as in everyday life we are affected by our psychological relationship with ideas.  Here’s a picture summarising the results of a study about how we come to consensus when we deliberate about our opinions.

Basically, the story we hear first, and the story we hear the most, feels most real to us.

u/JellyfishExpress8943 — 10 days ago
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Unbecoming

Hi all, I’ve written a short book called Unbecoming: A mirror, not a method. It’s a series of vignettes of everyday characters acting out the patterns of becoming.

The intention of the book was to encourage one to turn in on oneself to look at their own patterns of thought, instead of using their patterns of thought to look.

The collapse of the observer is one of the most crucial element of K’s teachings. It’s invisible while it’s operating. Which is why I designed the entire book as the observer acting out, to expose its patterns, as opposed to offering another method or a path which can so easily be hijacked by the observer.

It’s available on Amazon in paperback and kindle: https://amzn.eu/d/0cZF6uFZ

Much love, X

u/Kreep91 — 9 days ago