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How do you guys feel about the lightening of the Orisha's skin in diasporic Orisha practices?

Good everyone!

I am currently on a journey to try and get closer to my culture and ancestors.

I'm Afro-Carribean, so the closest practice to what many of my ancestors did is Santería. But there is one reoccurring problem I see in that community, they keep making the Orisha's skin lighter, making them almost look European.

So now I ask all of you, how do you all feel about the lightening of the Orisha's skin?

Thank you!

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u/hibiscus_honey3 — 4 days ago
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How does Isese feel about same-sex couples?

Hello everyone! I am currently looking into religions connected with my heritage, and Isese is the main one! As I'm researching, I have a few quesions:

How does the religion of Isese feel about same-sex couples overall?

In Isese, can a woman achieve the same status of priesthood as a man?

Why did you choose to practice Isese?

Thank you!

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u/hibiscus_honey3 — 5 days ago
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Scam Babalawo Manuel Naya who posts in this group u/mannerz416

Several of us who paid Manuel Naya / u/mannerz416 for spiritual/Ifá work have now found one another and compared what we were sent. He claimed to be an authentic Babalawo who owns an hvac company and does these services to help and not for money.

We discovered that multiple clients were sent the same photographs in connection with work that had been presented to each of us as individualized/personal work.

I am attaching examples so people can compare the photographs themselves and make their own judgment.

I originally found Manuel through u/Fragrant-Pie7113, who recommended him on Reddit and directed people to him. Other clients have also told me they contacted Manuel following her recommendations. I am naming her because her recommendations are how several clients say they were introduced to Manuel, and that is relevant context for anyone researching him.
After clients began comparing our messages, payment records and photographs, we discovered the duplicated ritual images. He claimed to have 100% success with his rituals ranging from $1000-$2000k. I can provide receipts.

This is particularly concerning because people seeking spiritual help may be doing so while dealing with heartbreak, grief, fear or other vulnerable circumstances. Whatever your beliefs about spiritual work itself, clients should be able to make informed decisions about what they are paying for and whether material represented as personal to them has also been supplied to other clients. There has to be some spiritual punishment , let alone karma for using religion to scam people at their worst times .

Question- for authentic IFA practitioners. What happens to these who use religion in the name of scamming people for their own greed ?

If you have worked with Manuel Naya / u/mannerz416
, preserve your messages, payment receipts, dates and every photograph or video you were sent. Do not delete your evidence.

Photos attached: examples of ritual photographs multiple clients report receiving in connection with supposedly individualized work. He also messaged me today (see screen shot) asking how much to leave him alone. We will be pursuing small claims court in Virginia to retrieve over $6k and this is just 3 people we know of who used his “services”.

@ u/Mannerz416

u/New_Builder_9930 — 8 days ago