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Victoria Adams – The Girl on the Stairs

Victoria Adams – The Girl on the Stairs

There were several key witnesses in and around Dealey plaza that day. One of the most important is Victoria Adams.

As the motorcade proceeded around the sharp corner from Houston to Elm, a police officer on a motorcycle (Marion Baker) felt shots may have come from the roof of the Texas School Book Depository (TSBD). He was back in the motorcade and he then accelerated up to the building. There he met Roy Truly, the building manager, and together they went up the stairs towards the roof. Both freight elevators were down at this time, so they used the stairs. At the same time, Victoria Adams and Sandra Styles (located in the fourth floor window) witnessed the activity going towards the grassy knoll area and wanted to join in. They both found the elevators to be down as well, so they used the stairs. As Baker and Truly were proceeding upward, they confronted Oswald in the second floor lunch room, either buying a coke or holding one in his hand. Adams and Styles never saw or heard anyone on their way down the stairs.

The problems occurred later when the Warren Commission took over the case. They ran time trials careful to duplicate all conversations and delays that Baker and Truly experienced. The time for them to get to the second floor lunchroom was determined to be 90 seconds, after the first shot was heard. The above picture shows the theoretical starting position for both groups, Oswald supposedly on the sixth floor and Adams and Styles on the fourth floor. The construction of the stair well is such that the parties would have to exit onto to each floor to go around to the next set of stairs. An employee on the fourth floor saw Baker and Truly coming up after Adams and Styles entered the stair well. The conclusion can be made that Oswald was never on the sixth floor at all.

An excellent book on this part of the story is “The Girl on the Stairs” by Barry Ernest. It covers this part of the story in detail along with several other aspects of the case. The Warren Commission’s handling of this key witness is very concerning to the point Adams felt fear for her life and left town. At a minimum, you would expect her to be included in the time trials, but she was not.

 From Anthony Rante, Author of “The JFK Assassination: A Technical Review of the Evidence”

For more information, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_P9Cry73vg&t=495s

u/Content_Tale6681 — 1 day ago

Lee Harvey Oswald may have been an asshole but he was at least a good dad ans he wasn't racist

There are some guys who are dead-beat dads and terrible dads. They have abandonned their kids. Oswald, on the other hand did his best to raise his two daughters along with Marina. He worked very hard for them and tried his best to be a good dad. When he was in jail he asked Marina if June got new shoes.

About racism, he was a piece of work but he wasn't racist at all which is probably rare for most people in the 50s and 60s.

I'm not taking side though. At the end of the day he was still a jerk.

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u/biscuitscoconut — 2 days ago

Dealey Plaza/Oak Cliff Mapping Question: Looking for a 1963 Vacuum Repair Shop near the Texas Theatre

My grandpa told me he worked at a vacuum cleaner repair shop within the vicinity of where Oswald was arrested in the theater and could recall cop cars flying down the neighborhood. Unfortunately he passed some years ago so I cannot ask him and I don’t recall the name of the business. I am needing help finding out where to look to try and determine his exact location when the assassination occurred I guess to get ah idea of how close he was to the theatre. I think maybe trying to find a city directory from 1963 would be a good start.

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u/Rambozo96 — 2 days ago

Zapruder in slow motion

Ever seen it in slow motion? You can easily see he's shot from behind because of the blood splatter from the exit wound.

Still could've been anyone pulling the trigger,;I know it's an empty feeling to believe the official story.

I used to be all in on a conspiracy. My conviction was from them picking up his skull and brain from the trunk, but I've seen ballistic tests where a skull cracks from the entry wound, blood splatter is a giveaway where I could no longer believe in a shooter from the grassy knoll.

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u/JoypadDivision — 5 days ago

Mom watching JFK pass by, turned the corner and then a terrible fate.

Local Dallas new footage. Mom was asked by her boss to be on the street cheering as JFK passed. Recently interviewed by the Dealy Plaza Museum Director, she still recalls the excitement, the cadence of the three shots, and the absolute disbelief of all around. She would have seen the rifle if she had been looking up.

u/Rockyt86 — 5 days ago

David Ferrie Lied

^(David Ferrie lied about not knowing Lee Harvey Oswald. Just like Clay Shaw lied when he said he was never affiliated with the CIA, and that he never used an alias.)

u/Secure_Tea2272 — 6 days ago

Oswald’s Eagerness for Employment at East Louisiana State Mental Hospital

In the late Summer of 1963, Oswald made a visit to Jackson, LA and attempted to gain employment at the East Louisiana state mental hospital. Why in the world would Oswald want to work at a mental hospital? How did this fit into the grand conspiracy scheme? For those who don’t believe Oswald was there I’ve included several witnesses to the event.

Edwin Lea McGehee: Barber who said he cut the hair of a man he later identified as Oswald. During the haircut, the man asked about jobs at the hospital (noting he had a wife and child and needed work); McGehee referred him to Reeves Morgan and suggested voter registration might help. 

•  Reeves Morgan: Said Oswald visited his home seeking help getting a job at the hospital (mentioning electrical/electrician skills and ability to do various work). Morgan advised on civil service applications/exams and noted no official openings but possible need for electrical work; he later heard from hospital staff about an application. 

•  Henry Earl Palmer: Registrar who said Oswald (showing Navy ID) came to register, stating he wanted the hospital job and claiming to live in Jackson (with a doctor). Palmer advised he did not need to be a registered voter for the job (or directed him toward hospital application/mayors/Morgan) and could not register him without proof of residency. 

•  Bobbie Dedon: Hospital clinic receptionist who said a man she identified as Oswald asked for directions to the personnel office to apply for employment (brief interaction, early September). She testified at the Clay Shaw trial. 

•  Maxine Kemp: Personnel office employee who said that in 1964 she found a job application in the files under “Oswald, Harvey” (or similar; last-name-first format). The file was later missing when searched. She also testified at the Shaw trial. 

•  Aline/Alene Woodside: Personnel department staff who reportedly told Morgan she had seen Oswald’s application in the files (later unlocatable during searches by investigators). 

u/Secure_Tea2272 — 8 days ago

63 years ago today Oswald took part in a CIA psyop

On August 9, 1963 Lee Harvey Oswald is arrested while handing out Pamphlets in front of the New Orleans International Trade Mart. The trade mart is owned by Clay Shaw, the target of Jim Garrisons investigation and a businessman revealed via declassified documents in the 1990s to be a CIA asset used in the Agencies Domestic Contact Services since 1948.

Oswald is joined by an unknown Cuban man and a young tourist Oswald hired off the street to hand out Pamphlets for an hour at over twice the minimum wage despite his alleged economic destitution.

The Pamphlets are part of Oswald’s fraudulent and fictitious Fair Play For Cuba Chapter, a national organization founded by prominent leftist intellectuals like James Baldwin which was being actively targeted by the CIA and FBI for its political activism against Americas hostile policies towards Cuba that nearly resulted in a Nuclear War. The national chapter of FPFC, did not give Oswald permission to form a New Orleans Branch and asked him not to.

The Pamphlets are marked with the name A. Hidell, the nonexistent President of the FPFC chapter, under whose name the alleged gun that Killed President Kennedy will be purchased.

The Pamphlets are also marked with the address of 544 Camp Street, the Office of ex-FBI SAC Guy Bannister, which was being used as a base of Operations for anti-communist operations and Anti-Castro organizations. Both Bannisters business associate and his Secretary claim to have regularly seen Oswald at this office.

Oswald is confronted by Carlos Bringuier and several other members of the Student Revolutionary Directorate or DRE, an anti-Castro Cuban group created, directed, and funded at the rate of $25,000 a month by the CIA under the cryptonym operation AMSPELL, whose goal was to destabilize Cuba and who spread anti-Castro media and Propaganda across The Americas.

This operation was Overseen by CIA officers David Arlene Phillips and George Joannides , who was in charge of Political and Psychological Warfare for the CIA based out of the CIA anti-Castro operations center known as J M WAVE. CIA cables declassified decades later revealed that Joannides personally approved AMSPELL budgets, directed their political strategy, and required the DRE leaders to clear all major press releases and public actions through him. 

Bringuier and Oswald get into a street scuffle and Oswald is arrested for disturbing the Peace and taken into custody by the NOPD. While in Police Custody Oswald requests to talk to the FBI despite his only needing $10 bail.

Oswald is met by FBI agent John Quigley who Oswald debriefs on the incident and his fictional FPFC chapter, representing Hidell as a separate person and claiming large membership levels. Oswald has his bail posted by his Mafia connected Uncle. Quigley destroys his notes.

Oswald is invited onto television and radios by an associate of Bringieur’s, William Kirk Stuckey, a host at WDSU who produced a Latin American affairs program called Latin American Focus. Stuckey would later testify to the HSCA that his Latin American reporting brought him into constant contact with exiles, military intelligence personnel, and federal agents operating out of New Orleans—a major intelligence hub for Caribbean and Central American covert operations during the 1960s.

On the radio broadcast Oswald is joined by Edward Scannel Butler, Executive Vice President of the Information Council of the Americas (INCA), who arranged and moderated the WDSU radio debate featuring Oswald following his arrest. INCA was a private anti-communist propaganda organization that declassified files show worked closely with U.S. domestic intelligence networks and military intelligence officers to conduct psychological operations aimed at Latin American audiences.

During these media appearances Oswald not only is positioned as a pro-Castro Marxist but is seemingly ambushed with government sourced documents from the House UnAmerican Activties Committee showing his history of defection to the USSR.

Oswald emerges as a publicly outed communist and Marxist pro-Castro activist and then shortly after begins trying to travel to Cuba via Mexico City, another highly storied chapter with major intelligence intersections.

Immediately after JFK dies this media will be used to try to paint Oswald as a communist operative by the DRE pushing for war with Cuba.

The facts are undeniable and the picture they paint could not be clearer.

Oswald was used as part of a CIA funded psychological warfare operation staged at a CIA asset owned site involving CIA funded operatives and promoted by CIA connected journalists who all used Oswald’s part in this operation to further push the anti-Castro agenda they had been working with the CIA and broader government and anti-communist apparatus to promote.

I don’t see how anyone can know these facts and the other clear facts that surround them like his admitted handlers the DeMorenschildts and the CiA and the FBIs monitoring of Oswald under classified counter intelligence programs and not understand Oswald was an intelligence operative.

It’s time we move the conversation forward, it’s time to stop wasting time with people who aren’t willing to engage with these facts or acknowledge what our governments own records say about this case and who Oswald was.

63 years of denial and lies is enough.

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u/Goobjigobjibloo — 11 days ago

Jack Ruby and the Mysterious Deaths

Jack Ruby proves to be an interesting character in the JFK assassination. His mob ties and appearances at several key locations leads one to believe he was more than an impulsive murderer. There were several deaths that are very suspecious due to their relationship to Ruby. Journalists Bill Hunter and Jim Koethe were both at Ruby’s apartment the night he murdered Oswald. Hunter was shot and killed on 4/23/64. Koethe was killed by a “karate chop” on 11/21/64. A third journalist, Dorothy Killgallen was found dead on 11/8/64 under the circumstances of a suspicious overdose. All of her JFK notes were gone. Her friend who had her back up notes died a very short time later. Killgallen published a major scoop in August 1964 featuring the leaked, classified transcript of Ruby's secret testimony to the Warren Commission. She also had a one on one meeting with Ruby.

Two of Ruby’s attorney also ended up dying at an early age. Tim Howard, his first attorney died in 3/27/65. Clayton Fowler who represented him later died in January 1971. They were 48 and 50 years-old, respectively.

Jack Ruby himself died of cancer related complications in January 1967. He believed he was injected with a highly virulent cancer virus while in jail. The CIA worked feverishly to develop this type of biological weapon technology in the early 1960s as a means to kill Castro.

u/Secure_Tea2272 — 11 days ago

So what are the theories of who killed JFK and why?

I see plenty of info here on doctored evidence, people lying, etc.

But I haven't seen anyone say who or why he was killed? So what's the long and short of it? What are some of the theories?

Government? Mafia? Both? Foreigners like Cuba or USSR?

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u/AxiomaticHodgepodge — 11 days ago

Dr Angel

Forensic anthropologist consulted by HSCA. They could not abide with his reconstruction. No shit. An exit next to their entry? Oops. His expertise was in skull reconstruction.

u/Eagle2Two — 11 days ago

1971 Was a Busy Year

As I mentioned in a previous post, LBJ was quoted in 1971 as not believing Oswald acted alone. This statement obviously got some people very worried. This statement was the catalyst for at least eight deaths of people who had first hand knowledge of the conspiracy to murder and/or coverup the assassination of JFK. Cliff Carter, Malcom Wallace, Dr Richard A Liguori, Roscoe White, Gen. Charles Cabell, Richard B Russell Jr, Clayton Fowler, and James Plumeri all died in 1971.

u/Secure_Tea2272 — 12 days ago

Some questions after watching CNN's episode about the JFK assassination.

Does LHO's wife have any insight? And why do you think she later went back on what she said and insisted LHO was infact a Patsy with a bigger conspiracy at play?

Jack Ruby was sentenced to death! Seems a little harsh, no?

Also, what the actual f*ck was wrong with DA Jim Garrison? Jesus Christ, I cannot believe the shit he tried to pull with Clay Shaw. Insanity.

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u/AxiomaticHodgepodge — 14 days ago

JFK assassination film hoax

Here is a list of inconsistencies, and obvious forgeries in the heavily doctored Zapruder film. We need the original, which probably doesn’t even exist anymore.

https://johncostella.com/jfk/intro/sign/

https://johncostella.com/jfk/intro/blur/

https://johncostella.com/jfk/intro/lamppost/

https://johncostella.com/jfk/intro/fast/

https://johncostella.com/jfk/intro/blood/

https://johncostella.com/jfk/intro/wound/

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u/TH3HAT3TANK — 13 days ago

Altgen’s Six and the Man on the Fire Escape

Without a doubt this is one of my favorite JFK assassination related photos. We will skip the argument for a windshield bullet hole and proceed to the Dal-Tex building. In this photo you can see a man who appears to be slumped down on the fire escape steps as if he is reacting to something acutely. There is an open window nearby. Where is this man’s witness statement?

u/Secure_Tea2272 — 14 days ago

Why did the Warren commission lie about Jack Ruby being present during the time of the JFK assassination?

Mark Lane (Rush to Judgement) showed on TV a photo of Ruby being there. And the commission published a photo where Ruby is (too conveniently) cropped out.

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u/AxiomaticHodgepodge — 14 days ago