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Was John being smart here?
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Was John being smart here?

My first impression of John's decision to kill Santino here was that he was very emotional, and that impression has stuck ever since. And I don't deny that a big part of it was emotional, but when I go back to it and think through his options, was he actually aiming for the best one?

In my opinion, beyond John's "focus, commitment and sheer will", another characteristic that he has that's often overlooked is that he's incredibly time-efficient (though that doesn't roll of the tongue too well).

Going back to the scene where John kills Santino; let's imagine a scenario where John didn't pull the trigger. Santino, now that he has taken a seat at the High Table + his already large influence and power, he will definitely open another contract on John. Worldwide, even. The bounty will remain open indefinitely until the job is done. After all, even though Santino boasts about how "you wouldn't have the same meal twice" in the Continental (and the hotel will provide him safe refuge on paper), obviously he doesn't want to stay there forever. He would want John dead ASAP so he can do other things. Plus, he would likely still fear being in the same building as John Wick.

John, on the other hand, while he is still technically safe inside the Continental, we already know what happened in the first movie. There are literally people who are willing to break the rules and be denounced excommunicado (i.e. Perkins). Knowing this, John isn't safe in the Continental either and will always have to watch his back. Even if we exclude those daring outliers, who knows what bullshit Santino could conjur up just to get John killed, moreso now that he has a seat at the High Table. While Winston could help somehow, he is still beneath the table, so I'd say the help he could give would be very minimal.

So, in John's mind, if everything will go to shit anyway, and if he will be hunted down anyway, he might as well have it be now.

This "time-efficiency" is also very consistent of what we've seen so far of John. In the third movie, after he went back to New York from visiting The Elder, we see him charging towards the exit door and tackling the motorcyclists just after hearing the motorcycle's roars (in his mind, he probably thinks it's better to attack now rather than staying on the defensive). In the fourth movie, the time he asserted for the duel is literally "Now." After all, Marquis said it himself, "how you do anything is how you do everything." This behavior reflects a lot in his actions inside and outside of combat. There are other examples that I have a hard time explaining without a video

The only time I think he strays away from this characteristic is when he's hunting Iosef. He definitely wanted to take his time with that one.

To be honest I'm quite unconfident on the term "time-efficiency" that I use here, but I'm basically referring to his characteristic of "might as well do it now even if it sucks" or something like that. Which I find very cool and admirable, just to bite the bullet like that with full confidence. Let me know your thoughts

u/mineula — 1 day ago

How smart do you think the NPCs will be in the John Wick game?

Could they all have different fighting styles and different ways of engagement will some of them be coordinated with each other and also use any objects in the environment as weapons could they still keep fighting even when you beat them to a pulp or stab them with something?

u/Inside_Inflation559 — 2 days ago
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The puppy crawled back to John :(

Watching the first part Nth time and suddenly realised that wounded puppy crawled back to John somehow. Daisy did deserve what John Wick did for her.

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u/Independent_Title824 — 4 days ago
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John Wick Chapter 3 came out 7 years ago today, what is your scene from this movie?

My favorite scene of this movie would always be John vs Zero 🫡

u/AlienUfo51 — 5 days ago

Company grounds adjacent

I understand not doing business on company grounds, and it seems to be that of party A is touching any part of said grounds is under its protection from party B (see Zero and wick ending chase scene). When Marcus shot through the window and hit wicks pillow to warn him, would that have been considered grounds for excommunication? Or would he have been executed if say he meant to warn wick but accidently shot him? But he technically wasnt on company grounds when he fired the bullet, same could be said for Zero, but I think that was Cheron and management stepping in to help. Thoughts?

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u/JonoBlue — 4 days ago
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Would you want the John Wick game to be a franchise?

Would you want the John Wick game to be a franchise like the Hitman games every one of the John Wick games could explore a different part of John Wick life years before the first movie with new and old characters and new settings not shown in the movies each of the games could explore and expand the lore and world of the movies more would you want it to be a franchise or just a standalone game?

u/Inside_Inflation559 — 6 days ago
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When do you think the John Wick game is coming out?

Some people are saying that it will come out in either 2027 or 2028 I personally think 2027 is more likely because this year is already stacked with so many big releases and the John Wick game has probably been in development for awhile now since 2023 when they first announced it but when do you think it’ll come out?

u/Inside_Inflation559 — 6 days ago
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If we want to have our own day . . .

Hey, if Star Wars types can take 05/04, why can't we take 09/19?

u/BlackZapReply — 8 days ago

Thought on John Wick Chapter 4

I'm in the midst of chapter 4, nearing the end. First time watching John Wick, amazing movie. The Marquis really played dirty, putting a 26 mil USD hit on John. There should be a rule that until the duel both parties should be provided with shelter under the High Table. Though again, John Wick is excommunicado so this rule prob doesn't apply to him, but yea

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u/Key-Share6711 — 5 days ago