r/KryptosK4

Has anyone seriously considered that K4 might be self‑keying?

I’ve gone through all my outputs from every angle. I keep seeing scraps of words, nothing that grows into a real sentence. Even when I push deeper layers, the results don’t sharpen. They just shift around.

So I’m starting to wonder if others have thought the same thing: maybe K4’s “plaintext” isn’t meant to be read. Maybe the output is actually the key. A self‑referential setup. I’ve got no proof, and no clear way to tell when the output stops being text and starts being the key, but the idea won’t go away.

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u/Old_Engineer_9176 — 12 days ago

1. K4: Mechanical reconstruction using 24:26 clock drift. Full steps inside, please test J

Been testing K4 as a mechanical clock, not a text cipher. Using Sanborn’s alphabet (KRYPTOSABCDEFGHIJLMNQUVWXZ) as a 26-letter ring, start at J, then for each ciphertext letter do: Plaintext = (Ciphertext − pointer) mod 26, rotate 1. First 10 steps give O-B-K-R-U-O-X-O-G-H minus J-N-Z-G-G-S-E-H-C-X = F-O-L-L-O-W-T-H-E-K. The 24-step Berlin Clock vs 26 letters creates the drift that generates the rest. Can anyone else run the first 20 by hand and see if it stays coherent?

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u/Neat-Macaroon1116 — 14 days ago

Paradigm K3

I have been “decrypting” K3 on the Paradigm website today, and it showed TREMBLING as TRSMBLING, and another time showed “TH?UPPER” instead of “THEUPPER”. I wonder if these are clues, or just bugs in the (computer) code that does that on the website? Screenies attached.

u/New_Morning3905 — 10 days ago