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Thoughts on The Theory of The Rolling Stones Foreign Tongues Collaboration as Evidence to Confirm the Appearance of Wolverine and Hulk in Doomsday?

Thoughts on The Theory of The Rolling Stones Foreign Tongues Collaboration as Evidence to Confirm the Appearance of Wolverine and Hulk in Doomsday?

Someone just brought this theory to my attention that has been circulating around for the past few days on this site and its such a creative way to look at the spoilers. I can't cross-post on this sub, but I'll give a brief explanation of the theory connecting the upcoming collaboration between the Rolling Stones confirming the appearance of Wolverine and Hulk in Doomsday.

If we look at the track record of spoilers, the best indicator of spoilers is the merchandise and other items sold associated with the film. There are a lot more stakeholders in the film, than just the team filming it, and if we look at the release of collaborations or toys they've had a track record of confirming Vision in Age of Ultron and even Groot's death in Infinity War.

If we were to look at the upcoming collaborations announced ahead of Endgame, u/GayC0b pointed a lot of these out, but I'll give my take as well because I think he only touches the surface with collaboration with The Rolling Stones for their release of their new album, Foreign Tongues.

  1. The collaboration between Marvel and The Rolling Stones of Vinyl Covers for an Album's release is the first collaboration preceding the existence of the MCU. The last one goes all the way back to the 90s. Marvel has notoriously kept the licensing of any heroes off limits by going after MF Doom in the 90s who was a small underground rapper, and there haven't been any other collaborations like this since.

  2. The first point brings me to my second point. What is the connection between the Rolling Stones and Marvel? To preface I've been an avid comic book collector for DC and Marvel, so I'm pretty used to all of the variant covers and collectors items, but something as a collector that raises my eyebrow for valuation is the fact of a lack of a connection on the surface. Does this confirm a song from the new Stones Album in Doomsday? And going even further why is it this specific assortment of heroes? Black Panther and Iron-Man have consistently been more popular than Wolverine or Hulk in the comic world, so its a very odd choice to choose this assortment. For there to be a collaboration of this caliber being the first since the 90s as well as for it to have absolutely zero connection with Marvel is something that makes no sense whatsoever, and it has to confirm something.

  3. The Cherry on the top of this entire connection is the Stones Hulk Cover with him literally being in London. It has been confirmed that the production has been shooting in Wembley Stadium and all around London, and The Rolling Stones while British have pretty much been exclusively operating in the states since the 70s.

I want to give credit to u/Gayc0b for this because this isn't my own, but I have to say that this is the best evidence of Wolverine and Hulk appearing in Doomsday yet as so many of the rumors and spoilers are "Sources said" and we have to have blind trust.

u/jdpunome — 3 hours ago

The new avengers doomsday plot leak :

I hope this is not real but the same thing was said about game of thrones s8 leaks and it turned out real...

u/Remarkable-Jump3262 — 4 hours ago

Doomsday Leak from upcoming Lego set

October release allegedly. It could TECHNICALLY not be Doomsday related but is releasing on the same day as the Doomsday sets.

u/nickcolonthree — 16 hours ago

MyTimeToShine claims that “Doom is reportedly OBSESSED with Steve Rogers in Avengers Doomsday and will show little to no interest in Reed Richards.” This is misleading and grifting

Hello, I’m making this post to call out and debunk the lies that MTTSH are spreading for engagement bait money. Doctor Doom and Reed Richards do share their comic history in this adaptation, in secret wars he will literally rewrite the universe on Battleworld to make Sue Storm his wife and Franklin Richards his son while punishing Reed and leaving him in shackles. Even if you don’t believe me we have multiple leaks and official marketing material debunking the idea that “doom will show little to no interest in reed” the Russos themselves have literally teased what’s going to happen in secret wars by placing Doom, Sue, and Franklin’s costumes together. Doom is going to have 2 separate vendettas against Steve Rogers and Reed Richards, When Loki removes Steve from the past and places him in the Fantastic Four Universe (828) it leads to the incursion killing Dooms family which is why he’s after Steve in the movie but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t also have conflict and motives against Reed. All of you will see.

u/RedditorGoldVirgin — 2 days ago
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I think this plot leak is fake (read my post body)

The leaked footage clearly shows Doom and Steve with the Avengers in the X-Men universe, where Doom activates the Sentinels to attack them. But this plot says Steve discovers Doom's betrayal first and the war happens later in Latveria. That doesn't add up.

u/Calm-Alarm7977 — 2 days ago
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Thor is reportedly set to endure major losses throughout Avengers: Doomsday

Thor is reportedly set to endure major losses throughout Avengers: Doomsday.

If true, his story could become one of the film's most emotional and tragic arcs.

What are your thoughts ?

u/LetItRib — 2 days ago

Leaked synopsis for Warner Bros' upcoming live-action/CGI animated hybrid film, "Funko".

Dave is a tired office worker and his coworker Jenny does not believe in much. They get pulled into this place called Funkotopia. It is full of people from record albums and it is led by Freddy Funko. He wears a crown. Dave and Jenny have to remember what it is like to think about what could happen. They have to do this to stop something called the Great Dullness. The Great Dullness is making everything boring and gray. It is taking away peoples ability to imagine and be creative. Dave and Jenny are on a mission to stop the Great Dullness. They are going to prove that it is never too late to dream and make your own fun. You are never too old to create your adventure in Funkotopia, with Freddy Funko and the people of Funkotopia.

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u/LocalAssumption6485 — 2 days ago

Does anybody have a copy of that one Doomsday plot leak where Doom hates reed, and the film starts with him kidnapping Franklin?

I recall two other details:

  1. The F4 are in a baseball game, except for Sue, obviously. In this version, Sue seems to recognize Doom as an enemy.

  2. I think the leak also said Loki formed a TVA avengers team that fights Doom when he invades it.

Lastly, I believe Steve still played a vital role here, but he appeared far less than what other leaks mentioned.

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u/LaughinChaos — 2 days ago

Secret Wars

I have recived an early draft for Secret Wars. I'm sure the usual places will talk about it soon so I'm gonna be first.

Here's a short rundown of the plot:

A year has passed since Battleworld was formed by Doom. Most of its residents have no idea about the old world, with only a few exceptions. Everyone on Battleworld - whose nature is medieval and feudal - believes it has always existed. Their past lives have been rewritten into “roles” (barons, rulers, citizens of domains, etc.).

However, all three Spider-Men remember the old world, as do Namor, the Young Avengers, Vision, She-Hulk, Deadpool, Sadie Sink's Jean Grey, Hugh Jackman’s Wolverine, Reed Richards, and Sentry. They form a resistance after realizing that Doom is not just a ruler - he is the engine of reality itself. Battleworld exists because Doom is actively maintaining it, using Loki’s stolen power.

They break into Battleworld domains. They split up and:

Travel through different domains (each acting as a broken patch of old universes)

Search for weaknesses in Doom’s structure

Recruit allies who are beginning to “glitch” (regaining memories or questioning reality)

Doom commands an army of Thors, with Doctor Strange as his second-in-command. He also has his coven of witches and, of course, Loki’s stolen power. Yelena serves as his third-in-command, though she has no powers. Sentry is taken and is held captive under lock and key. Another key figure Doom keeps is Steve Rogers, the only person whose memory he deliberately preserved. Doom hates Steve and wants him to witness his victory—to see that Doom has won and built a new “family,” while Steve has lost everything.

Instead of directly attacking Doom, the resistance focuses on turning his forces against him. She-Hulk gathers the Hulks, Deadpool manages to restore Thor’s memories, and the Young Avengers unite the mutant population. Tom Holland’s Spider-Man rallies New York. Reed Richards gathers the remaining members of the Future Foundation.

Meanwhile, Tobey Maguire, Hugh Jackman, and Steve Rogers - who escapes Doom’s prison with Yelena’s help - set out on a mission to find Loki. Since Doom restored everyone, Loki is alive as well, and he is the only one capable of stealing Doom’s power.

Loki is found in an Asgardian domain that has become a casino - a shady, corrupt version of Asgard. There they encounter Sylvie, Mobius, OB, and other TVA members working in the casino. Loki is the manager, but he refuses to believe their story and throws them out.

At their lowest point, they discover someone unexpected: Tony Stark. He is a miserable drunk, gambling away his life in the casino, and initially refuses to join them. Eventually, they convince him, and then they convince Loki as well.

At the final battle, armies from across Battleworld gather to storm Doom’s castle. Thor and the Hulks fight against the army of Thors, while Sam leads the resistance against the witches, Doom Bots, and the rest of Doom’s forces.

Reed Richards, Yelena, Sue (who now remembers everything), Steve Rogers, Hulk and She-Hulk, Tom Holland’s Spider-Man, Sentry, Loki, Iron Man, Hugh Jackman’s Wolverine, and Tobey Maguire’s Spider-Man all confront Doom directly.

Doom overwhelms them, defeating them brutally, and they are nearly killed. Reed and Sue try to reason with him, telling him that he is grieving for his family and that Battleworld is not the answer. He is briefly convinced—but ultimately rejects it and attacks them again.

They are saved at the last moment by Tobey, Hugh, and Tony, who manage to hold Doom off long enough for Loki to reclaim the stolen power and restore the multiverse.

Everything returns to normal. Loki returns to his throne, but not before saying a final goodbye to Thor and his TVA friends. Everyone is sent back to their original universes.

Yes—Deadpool, Wolverine, the X-Men, and the Fantastic Four return to their own realities and do not join the MCU. What this means for the future is unclear. The MCU continues as it was before.

The TVA later get Steve, Peggy, and their son who is alive again in a new universe, one where they existed but died, preventing any incursions from occurring again. Before leaving, Steve asks the TVA for one last favor.

Years later, an older Steve Rogers is visited by the TVA. They bring him back to Earth-616 at the end of Endgame so he can pass the shield to Sam. After saying a final goodbye to Sam and Bucky, he returns with the TVA to the reality where Peggy and his son live.

The end.

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u/dborn1 — 4 days ago