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Theory: the Shroobs are the reason why the tech of the Mushroom World is so haphazard.

See, the confusing thing about the Mushroom World is that while it's allegedly set mainly within a medieval-style kingdom where spears, heavy armor, steam trains, wooden ships, and dirt roads are the norm, the games (especially the RPGs) are chock-full of modern-day technologies like televisions, cars, neon signs, electric lights, jukeboxes, conveyor belts, bazookas, computers, pagers and cell phones (both with ringtones), rocket ships, jet planes, blimps, handheld video game consoles, and more.

While some of this could be chalked up to geniuses existing(E.Gadd, Bowser, Wario)I think there is also another explanation.

See, in Bowser's Inside Story we see Bowser has Shroobs frozen in his basement, very likely for research of their tech given how smart Bowser is. Given that Bowser did it, I think it is quite likely the other kingdoms of the world also snatched up some of the Shroobs to understand their advanced technology.

What we see in the Mushroom World today is the result: medieval kingdoms have basically leapfrogged ahead to modern levels of tech thanks to studying the Shroob, which is why the various Kingdoms are a weird mix of modern and medieval.

A side note is that this gets into sort of dark territory that the various kingdoms basically frozen an entire species and are experimenting on them to find their tech, but that's a note for another day.

TL;DR: the various Kingdoms studying Shroob Tech explains why the tech in the Mushroom World is both modern and medieval.

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u/TheOneYSHNK — 2 days ago

What even is Queen Jaydes?

Queen Jaydes is the ruler of the Underwhere, an afterlife realm where sinful and neutral souls go after their death. But I was wondering, what even is she? She’s married to a Nimbi (Grambi) but that doesn’t mean she is one herself. She could also be a creation of the stars (since the stars create life it wouldn’t be strange if they also interfered with death) but that’s just a headcanon.

Let me know what you think!

u/Glad_Use_8584 — 2 days ago

Super Mario Bros 1 and Lost levels Worlds

First of all, I would like to apologize for my last post. Second, in BS Super Mario Collection, it reveals that Worlds 1-3 of Super Mario Bros. for NES and Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels are Grass, Beach, and Snow, and Grass, Forest, and Snow. The last world is obviously the Koopa and volcanic theme, but what about worlds 4-7 of both games? What are their themes?

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u/Future_Bass2790 — 6 days ago

Any theories on why Bowser keeps putting stuff that harms him in the arenas where he fights Mario?

This is something that always confused me a ton when trying to think about it from a lore perspective. Bowser is not an idiot in any way so why does he keep repeating the exact same mistakes over and over again?

I managed to somewhat categorize them.

  1. Bowser doesn't learn quickly when fighting so he doesn't adapt. This can be seen in Super Mario World, Super Mario 3D worlds first Bowser fight, New Super Mario bros U (Where he doesn't tell Jr to just stop flying low with the clown car) and in Odyssey where he keeps throwing his boxing hat.

  2. There are stuff in the arena that can defeat Bowser yet he doesn't remove them. This can be seen famously with axe behind the bridge and the buttons that do the same thing, in Super Mario bros 3 where a part of the castle floor is made of bricks, Super Mario 64 where there are always spikey bombs floating around the arena and in Super Mario 3D worlds final boss where there is a gaint pow block ontop of the building that he stands on.

  3. Not his fault, we can see this in Super Mario Sunshine where Mario breaks the wings of the flying bathtub and in both Galaxy games where Mario uses his environment to defeat Bowser. These ones I like the most since the games Bowser and Jr make up great plants to defeat Mario who prevails anyways.

As we can see in the RPGs Bowser isn't the sharpest koopa around but he is also far from the dumbest. He is a pretty competent leader of the koopa troop so what gives?

I would love to hear your theories in the comments.

u/Double-Jump-Lover — 10 days ago

A little crazy nintendo universe theory

Even though it’s completely convoluted, I’ve always wanted to try my hand at a theory about the Nintendo universe, so why not? ( sorry for the language, I'm french )

First, there is an entity known as the Void, composed of everything that exists.
Why? We’ll see that later.
Then there are the three Golden Goddesses, tasked with creating the earth and life, while a negative impulse gives rise to "null." There are two parallel dimensions: the Sacred Realm, where the gods (like Palutena) dwell, and the Dark World, home to demons (like Hades).

Pit defeats Hades, but Null absorbs his lingering malice to form a new Demon King: Demise.

Only Hylia, an angel on par with Pit, manages to defeat the Demon King and secure the Triforce.

The three Zelda timelines unfold until they eventually merge in *Breath of the Wild*.

Meanwhile, civilizations on other planets evolve; while Hyrule sits at the center of the universe, Earth's inhabitants remain largely unconcerned with cosmic threats. This sets the stage for *EarthBound*, followed by *Animal Crossing*, where animals evolve eventually leading to the spacefaring eras of *Metroid*, *F-Zero*, and *Star Fox*.

However, while the planet of Hyrule remains trapped in an eternal cycle of creation and destruction, humans destroy their own home world, spreading out into space and abandoning the planet. This leads to *Pikmin* and then *Splatoon*, before Earth freezes over completely, as seen in *Kirby*.

Kirby himself battles endlessly against various incarnations of the Void while uncovering traces of the Ancients.

Among them are the Zonai, who found a new Hyrule in the hope that a new hero clad in green will one day rise. Indeed, after many centuries—and with humans having settled on the planet of Hyrule (hints in *Super Mario Odyssey* suggest humans are space explorers who may not originate from this world)—Mario and Luigi are born. However, because they are twins, the Triforce splits in two; with the Master Sword lost, the brothers are unable to defeat Bowser, the new incarnation of the Demon King, whose own power is also diminished (though he has mastered still dark magic, drawn from that same Dark World)

The same applies to Peach, a distant descendant of Hylia: in reality, it was Rosalina—Peach's ancestor—who received the Triforce of Wisdom, but since only her brother had childrens, Bowser can never be defeated.

With the disappearance of the Triforce, the Sacred Realm also gradually fades away, while Kirby struggles to cope with repeated invasions by the Void.

That is why the goddesses charged Rosalina, as a distant descendant of Hylia, with maintaining cosmic balance; acting as the guardian of the Lumas, she counters the forces of evil that seek to devour them.

Kirby battles Void Termina, but the truth is undeniable: the world is dying and the forces of evil are winning. Rosalina resets the universe and attempts to push it ever further, but it is too late; everything must come to an end.

However, as the entire world merges to become Void Termina once more during one of these resets, the three Golden Goddesses manage to shape an egg, offering the universe a new beginning.

The Egg of Arceus.

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u/Due-Bed-6821 — 9 days ago
▲ 3 r/Marioverse+1 crossposts

I somehow connected every Maio game including spin offs and made th fundamental rules of the universe

  1. The origin of the universe

Rosalina created the whole universe and accidentally created kamek her arch nemesis. Kamek finds bowser and creates the koopa troop with magic. The start of the timeline is yoshis island and goes on until galaxy. Mario and Bowser wager a war and both are so powerful this war might destroy the universe. Rosalina then has a choice to make then she splits the timeline.

  1. The timeline split

Rosalina splits the timeline in 3. The first timeline is what I call the nerfed timeline where Rosalina makes Mario and bowser less powerful and this timeline has all the mainline games. The second is the friends timeline where Rosalina makes Mario and Bowser friends and this is where the spin offs happen. The last is the bros timeline which is where the Mario and Luigi games take place.

  1. The bros timeline chaos

In the bros timeline the games go superstar saga, paper jam because there are minimal references and nowhere else to be in the timeline. Next is bowsers inside story because when we see the shroobs frozen Mario and Luigi only talk about their adventure as babies and not adults. Then a split in this timeline happens because if E Gadd never makes the time machine partners in time never happens. After partners in time comes dream team because bowser gets beat up by Mario and Luigi at the end of BIS and cant use his suck powers so he recovers in PIT then gets them back in dream team because he recovered from his injuries. Finally comes Brothership.

  1. The holy paper book

The holy paper book is the paper mario book found in paper jam and its in every universe. In super paper mario Dimentio is created with darkness and in the final battle kills Mario and is able to become the ruler of the book. Thats why a huge shift in the paper mario games happens. He creates universes with Mario and a villain because each universe needs a purpose. He fills the world with toads they are either dumb people just to fill the emptiness or a spy to keep tabs on Mario. Mario is in a constant loop of dying and being reincarnated in a different universe.

  1. the corrupted timeline

In the nerfed timeline some of the darkness that made dimentio spills out of the paper book. It corrupts Mario making him weaker, makes a few buildings haunted, and creates king boo. This is where Luigis mansion happens. At the end of Luigis mansion 3 the corruption is gone.

  1. universal rules

Each universe needs a purpose. Mario and bowser exist because thats the Mario universes purpose of existing. Each character cant die. They use one ups toon physics etc. If one of the anchors of the universe Mario or bowser truly die the universe hits the reset button and starts back at Yoshis island.

I ruined Mario for myself please help me.

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u/TangeloExternal782 — 11 days ago

Is it me or my noticing a consistent fact that Mario always befriends gods

This thought is really came up in my head but yeah, he’s befriended:

the star spirits and the zeekeeper the gods of dreams and a guardian deity of the dreamworld,

Has befriended brighton and twila the gods of day and night,

Has befriended and became a student of thunder hand and firebrand gods of fire and thunder basically,

Has befriended queen jaydes and Grambi god of basically life and death,

Has tamed or befriended all of the Vellumentals,

Has befriended the Great Conductor another guardian deity but for Concordia,

Overall, Mario has been friended a lot of Gods he really does have a lot of connection,

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u/Embarrassed-Bit-6844 — 14 days ago