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Why can’t we use imperial unit names on the metric system?

So 1cm = inch, 1dm = foot (more like baby foot), 1m = yard, 1km = mile

Also gallon for 1L and pound for 1kg

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u/crivycouriac — 15 hours ago
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Question: Why do we leave out the decimeter?

Hello people who commonly use metric. I have lived my whole life in the United States so I have mostly used the imperial system but also respect and understand the metric system. I also use it in my personal creative writing as it just makes more sense in terms of standardization.

However, something that has always bothered me is: why do we not use the decimeter?

Whenever I see height measured, it is almost always in meters when it comes to buildings, or centimeters when it comes to height of people.

But doesn't using a decimeter when it comes to distances not too long but not too short make more sense?

I feel like it's easier for me to visualize 18.5 decimeters than it is for me to visualize 185 centimeters.

I assume this could also just be because I am used to having the "foot" between an inch and a yard.

So, why isn't it used, or at least, not commonly? I feel like it could be useful for some things, surely.

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u/TheJustinMannRLA — 3 days ago
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Dear Fahrenheit users, do you really think 50 degrees is "the middle temperature"?

One of the most common defense for Fahrenheit is smth like this;

"Fahrenheit is more intuitive for human experience. 0 degree is super cold, and 100 degree is super hot! It is just simple as that!"

With that logic, 50 degree Fahrenheit should be the "middle temperature"; which is 10 degree Celsius.

Is it just me or being 50'F/10'C actually feel cold? Such temperature requires sweater at least, and even light jacket sometimes. That is nowhere near the "middle temperature", isn't it? Or am I just weird?

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u/3ustress — 3 days ago
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Kilogram is annoying

Before I start I wanted to specify that this post would probably change absolutely nothing.

Kilogram is annoying, it's the base unit of SI, but for some reason it has a prefix. It is annoying, because with different units the prefixes work with a cool perk:

If one unit has a prefix, it is moved to the answer: kJ/s = kW

If you are multiplying two units with prefixes, they multiply: kW•ks = MJ

Dividing divides them (obviously): kJ/ks = W

But when base unit has a prefix it doesn't work, and kg•km/s^(2) should be meganewton, but it's NOT, it's kilonewton.

I have a few purely hypothetical ideas:

1st (most obvious) use grams. It would mean that the unit of force would be g•m/s^(2), problem: it would be equal to 1 mN, which is incredibly small, human weighting 700 000 force units would be really small. I'm not even gonna start talking about density with g/m^(3).

2nd use tonnes. This means that the unit of force would be derived as t•m/s^(2), so it would be equal to 1 kN. There are pros, like: 1. Good for heavy industry, for example: Poland mines 43 million tonnes of coal (instead of billion/milliard kilograms) the weight of a car would be ~15 force units. 2. Density of water is 1 t/m^(3) which is cool to have a base unit of density to be equal to density of water, also we could stop using g/cm^(3). But there are cons: tonne is too heavy for everyday life. Human would weight 70 mt (militonne) or 7 ct (centitonne), a slice of bread would weight 40 μt (microtones), so tonne is good for heavy industry, but if you don't want to use mili and micro prefixes, it isn't that great (still not that bad)

3rd grave, grave is suggested unit of mass equal to 1 kg, it was almost accepted, but then they realized that graf is German noble title. There is no nobelty today, so grave would work. It has all pros of kilogram + perks of being a unit without prefixes, so kilograve•km/s^(2) would in fact equal MN (meganewton). It's also good, because all other units can keep their names, grave•m/s^(2) is still 1 N. Let's make a symbol for grave "gv" 1 t = 1 Mg = 1 kgv. 1 kg = 1 gv. 1 g = 1 mg

What do you think guys? In perfect system we would use kilograms, or replace them with grams, tonnes, graves or something else. Share your opinion in the comments

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u/FingerAccurate7102 — 6 days ago
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I am so sick and tired of struggling to find metric items.

I live in Canada, and we're still a slave to american products. That means anything we produce will be manufactured with imperial dimensions. I'm sick of it.

I've been trying to find perforated aluminium sheet, and it's all imperial. I've been able to find several suppliers in Canada (and overseas), but none of them make a metric product. It makes my design work much more difficult. I have to spend tons of time calculating offsets and doing conversions, it's a huge waste.

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u/NoxAstrumis1 — 8 days ago
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3D printing is natively metric (mm, g, °C), a consistent and pleasant experience

Forget about the wider world for a minute. I got myself into 3D printing less than a year ago. I design models, run and tweak slicer software, shop for machines and components (nozzles, etc.) and supplies (filaments, etc.), and watch way too many explainer videos from many online creators.

When I step back from various individual topics in 3D printing, I notice something in the big picture that's easily taken for granted: Everyone uses metric units when describing 3D printing techniques and products, and even use the same unit in almost all domains (with minor variations like g/kg, m/mm/μm). It doesn't matter if the designer, product, or YouTuber is from America, Europe, or Asia - the units are always the same, and I barely know the country of origin unless I dig into details. This is so radically different from older industries and practices, like when you have to worry about whether to use an inch ruler or centimetre ruler, what a "tatami mat" is in Japanese real estate, what a short ton vs. long ton versus metric ton is when shipping large goods, whether you're buying gallons or litres of fuel, whether a recipe is in °C or °F, etc.

So if you're involved in 3D printing, you get a firsthand experience of what it's like when everyone internationally uses the same units, everyone participates in the same discussion and shop in the same marketplace, and you don't have to convert any numbers and units. It's such a breath of fresh air, and I wish other industries would unify their measurements in this way.

Keep in mind that 3D printing is about 20-ish years old, depending on how you look at the history of consumer products vs. industrial products vs. research prototypes. It had the opportunity to start fresh, without much baggage of traditional units and practices, and was born into the Internet-connected world. In terms of measurement units, I think this industry absolutely made the right choices, despite being surrounded by so many pre-existing industries that use non-metric units and continue to make the bad choice of not transitioning to metric.


Here are some examples of real quantities used in 3D printing and described in metric units (left side), versus my hypothetical caricature (based on other industries) of what it would look like if US Customary units are involved (right side):

  • Layer height: 0.07 mm, 0.15 mm, 0.25 mm - versus - 3 thou, 6 thou, 10 thou, 3/1024″ (LMAO), 3/512″, 5/512″.
  • Nozzle diameter: {0.2, 0.4, 0.6} mm - versus - 0.008″, 0.015″, 0.025″.
  • Spool of filament: 1 kg, 3 kg - versus 2.2 lb, 6.6 lb, 2 lb 3 oz, 6 lb 10 oz. (You could choose to sell a nice round number of pounds, but then it would have ugly decimals in kilograms.)
  • Random masses of printed objects (slicer software can calculate and show, or physically weigh after printing): {23.7, 98.9, 230, 664} grams - versus - {0.8, 3.5, 8.1, 23.4} oz, {0.05, 0.22, 0.51, 1.46} lb, 1 lb 7.4 oz.
  • Random lengths of filament consumed (slicer software can calculate and show): {6.15, 72.7, 364} metres - versus - {242, 2862, 14331}″, {20′ 2″, 238′ 6″, 1194′ 3″}, {20.2, 238.5, 1194.2}′, {6yd 2′ 2″, 79yd 1′ 6″, 398yd 3″} (I thought USC lovers love mixed units?), {6.73, 79.5, 398} yd.
  • Build plate printable dimensions: 250 mm × 210 mm = 52 500 mm² - versus - approximately 10″ × 8″ = 80 in², 9 27/32″ × 8 1/4″ = 81.2 in² = 0.564 sq ft.
  • Build volume: 153.4 mm × 87 mm × 165 mm = 2 202 057 mm³ = 2.202 L - versus - 6.03″ × 3.43″ × 6.50″ = 134.44 in³ = 74.5 US fl oz = 9.31 US cup = 2.33 US qt = 0.581 US gal.
  • Chamber, bed, nozzle temperature: {50, 100, 230} °C - versus - {120, 210, 445} °F.

Extra topics tangentially related:

  • I'm glad 3D printing chose millimetres, not centimetre, as the unit of length - because it scales by a power of 1000 from the metre, just like the micrometre, nanometre, kilometre, etc. Before 3D printing existed, the precedent is that serious engineering and metal machining already use millimetres, not centimetres. Advocates for mm over cm include Pat Naughtin (video and long PDF) and the Metric Maven. I could write a full-length post about why centimetres are bad; there really is a lot to say about it.
  • I talk about all aspects of my 3D modeling in millimetres exclusively - "this needs a 5.8 mm diameter hole", "the overall part is 200 mm long". Other people might talk about these aspects in customary units, like "1/4-inch hole", "needs 3 inches of clearance", which I find mildly annoying. But even then, these people will never refer to the layer height or nozzle diameter in decimal inches - which is good for the 3D printing community, but inconsistent with their other habits.
  • Typical acceleration numbers are written like "20 000 mm/s²", which is equal to 20 m/s². The former isn't wrong, but it's more digits than necessary. And I've seen some people refer to it as "20K mm/s²", which is wrong in multiple ways. This is analogous to the questionable practice of labeling power banks as "10 000 mAh" instead of "10 A⋅h".
  • My previous observation about exclusively using degrees Celsius in 3D printing: https://www.reddit.com/r/Metric/comments/1qumhtn/personal_computers_and_3d_printers_use_celsius/
u/nayuki — 10 days ago
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Standard stand user

This is my JoJo stand concept if I was in Jojo’s bizarre adventure it would be named Tender Love Named after Babyface's iconic 1989 R&B album and song Tender Lover. Type: close range/support, the stand Appearance: A massive, hulking teddy bear with a skeletal, emancipated, and hunched frame around 6 feet tall with patchwork and stuffing leaking out of It features rows of razor-sharp teeth, silver eyes, and massive, lethal claws. Its chest cavity can swing open to reveal a sterile, shifting nest of surgical tools. Stand Cry: TAP-TAP-TAP-TAP-TAP (yes I’m going for Michael Myers me like creepy stuff ) tender lovers Stand Stats are Destructive Power: B ,Speed: C  ,Range: C my range would be 4 to 6 meters, Persistence: A, Precision: A  Developmental Potential: D and The Main Abilities are Miracle Surgery: By opening its chest cavity, Tender Lover can perform impossible, instantaneous medical procedures. It can bypass skin and bone without causing lethal trauma, cutting out tumors, repairing organs, or reattaching limbs in seconds. Biochemical Claws: Its massive claws act as organic hypodermic needles. Depending on the intent, they can instantly inject lethal, fast-acting poisons or life-saving, hyper-concentrated antibodies and I would have a Sub-Stand (because sometimes my brain does unconscious thinking and my brain pops out an idea by accident): it’s name is Harvest Moon named after the Neil young song Type: Colony Stand 8 independent units Appearance: Eight miniature, mechanical Downy Woodpeckers with with a clockwork antique design, and small puffs of steam coming from different cracks and soft talons  Sub-Abilities Wormhole Peaking: By rapidly pecking at any surface, a unit of Harvest Moon  can tear open a tiny, localized portal. Reconnaissance & Relay: The woodpeckers act as your eyes and ears, sending visual and auditory information directly back to your brain through the portals. Object Transfer: The portals are large enough for a woodpecker to slip a small object through such as stolen keys, a vial of poison from the main Stand, a capsule of medicine, or a crucial piece of enemy evidence(just to warn I my or my not use the stand to grab snack because I’m a lazy 15 year old). Harvest moons stats are  Destructive Power: D  Speed: A Range: A 35 meters, Persistence: C Precision: A Developmental Potential: C and for people that say my stand may be overpowered kinda kinda, but that’s why I gave it fair sense Tinder lover has a seat and range and speed so it’s not gonna go very fast or far but to bounce it, I gave it a beat in destructive power and persistence and processing but D development potential so far and when it comes to woodpeckers, you don’t really expect them to be powerful so e in destructive power and c in persistent and development potential 

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u/No_Adeptness_3405 — 10 days ago
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Experiment help!

Trying to figure out in lab toxicity tests with sediment, liquid mercury chloride, and amphipods. Right now we are in the stage of trying to figure out how to dose the field collected sediment with liquid mercury chloride solutions to reach dry concentrations of 0.1, 0.25, 0.5, 1, 2.5, 5, 10, and 15 ppm . At first we were trying to dose 250 g of wet sediment , shown in excel the amount in microliters of our different stock solutions but then when we ran samples through the direct mercury analyzer (DMA-80) we found we were off so then we tried dosing a smaller amount (5 g) and we were still reading way lower mercury amounts on the DMA than what our target concentration was. We spiked sediment in glass beakers, dropping mercury solution in the center and then having to hand mix and fold sediment continuously by hand with plastic spatulas for around 15 mins. I know there could be hotspots where the mercury is clustered in the sample because it wasn’t properly homogenized? At this point I think it has to be related to the mixing method because I believe our numbers are correct , I’m just so lost and any advice or resources anyone has would be greatly appreciated !

u/Whatsermeme — 10 days ago