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Ford finally admits it was wrong about the Bronco pickup

Ford finally admits it was wrong about the Bronco pickup

After years of insisting nobody wanted a Bronco truck, Ford is now building one for launch around 2028. Jeep sold the idea. Ford is just catching up.

Ford is developing a Bronco pickup for launch near the end of the decade, reversing a decision it made loudly and publicly when the modern Bronco arrived in 2021. Back then, the company insisted there was no market for a Bronco truck. The Ranger was the truck. The Bronco was the SUV. Simple.

Except Jeep had already launched the Gladiator two years earlier, and it has been selling between 80,000 and 100,000 units annually in the U.S. ever since. That is not a rounding error. That is a profitable segment Ford decided to ignore while watching someone else take the money.

The Bronco already shares its T6 platform with the Ranger, so the engineering lift here is not dramatic. Ford has the bones. It just needed the will, or perhaps the embarrassment of watching Jeep operate unopposed in a lifestyle pickup segment that turned out to be exactly as viable as customers kept saying it was.

This is not about capability. The Gladiator is not a better truck than the Ranger, and a Bronco pickup will not be either. It is about identity. People who want a Wrangler with a bed do not want a Ranger with a soft top. They want the specific thing Jeep figured out how to sell them, and Ford is now admitting it should have been there first.

The original Bronco, which ran from 1966 to 1996, included pickup variants in its early generations. Ford is not inventing anything here. It is returning to something it once understood and then forgot.

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What makes this more interesting is what else Ford is reportedly planning on the same platform. A Lincoln luxury off-roader, aimed squarely at the Mercedes G-Class, is apparently in the works as well. That is a different kind of gamble.

The G-Wagen sells for between $140,000 and $200,000 and has seen years of sustained growth in a segment defined by people who want to look like they might drive across a desert but almost certainly will not. Range Rover owns part of that market. Mercedes owns the rest. Lincoln has never been anywhere near it.

Ford CEO Jim Farley has made it clear the company is focusing on iconic nameplates and truck leadership, which is a polite way of saying Ford is cutting everything that does not make money and doubling down on the things that do. Trucks make money. Luxury SUVs make money. A Bronco pickup and a Lincoln G-Class competitor fit that strategy exactly.

The question is whether Lincoln has the credibility to charge six figures for an off-roader when it has spent the last decade trying to convince people it is still a luxury brand at all. The Navigator sells well enough, but it is a full-size SUV competing on space and comfort, not image. A G-Class fighter requires the kind of brand heat Lincoln has not generated since the 1960s.

Meanwhile, the Bronco pickup will likely arrive around 2028 or 2029, which means Ford is giving Jeep nearly a decade head start. The Gladiator will be well into its second generation by then. The market will be defined. Ford will be the one trying to take share, not create it.

Ram is working on the Ramcharger. General Motors has the Hummer EV. Rivian has the R1T. Toyota is still selling every 4Runner and Land Cruiser it can build. The off-road lifestyle truck and SUV space is not empty. It is crowded, expensive, and full of people who got there first.

Ford has the Bronco name, and that counts for something. It has the Ranger platform, which works. It has the dealership network and the production capacity. What it does not have is the last five years back.

The Bronco pickup will probably sell. The Lincoln luxury off-roader is harder to predict. But both represent Ford admitting it misread the market once and is now paying the cost of entering late.

Sources: Ford Motor Company, Jeep Gladiator U.S. sales data, Mercedes-Benz G-Class pricing

u/gaukmotors — 1 day ago

Toyota sold 200 million-dollar GR GT3 supercars before building any, and you probably weren't allowed to buy one

The entire US allocation vanished before production started. Toyota vetted every buyer to keep flippers out.

Toyota has sold all 200 units of its GR GT3 road car allocated to the United States before the first one rolled off the production line. The million-dollar supercar, distributed through select Lexus dealerships rather than Toyota's own network, went to buyers who passed a screening process designed to weed out speculators.

Toyota is stepping into territory it has avoided for over a decade. The last time the company built something this exclusive was the Lexus LFA, which sold 500 units globally between 2010 and 2012 and required similar buyer vetting. The GR GT3 is more extreme. It is a road-legal version of Toyota's actual GT3 racing car, powered by a twin-turbocharged V8 lifted straight from the motorsport program.

Toyota required prospective buyers to demonstrate they intended to drive the thing, not flip it for a markup the moment the title cleared. That kind of gatekeeping used to be Ferrari's specialty. Ford famously rejected collectors when allocating the 2017 GT, prioritising brand ambassadors who would actually use the car. Mercedes did the same with the AMG One. Now Toyota is doing it too.

Handling distribution through Lexus dealerships instead of Toyota stores tells you how the company sees this car. It is not a GR Supra with more power. It is a halo product aimed at the same buyer who might cross-shop a Porsche 911 GT3 RS or consider a McLaren. Pricing around one million dollars puts it in proper supercar territory, well above anything Toyota has sold in the modern era.

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The 200-unit US allocation is a fraction of global production. Toyota has not disclosed total build numbers, but the company is deliberately keeping volume low. That scarcity drives the collector interest Toyota claims to be blocking, which makes the screening process critical. Without it, half the cars would be sitting in climate-controlled garages as investments rather than being driven.

Whether the vetting actually works is another question. Porsche GT3 RS allocations sell out in hours despite similar dealer scrutiny, and plenty of those cars still end up on resale listings within months at steep markups. Think about that for a second. Ferrari's ownership history requirements have not stopped flipping entirely either. The difference is enforcement. If Toyota is serious about keeping speculators out, it will need to track what happens after delivery and adjust future allocations accordingly.

Gazoo Racing started as a motorsport program. It expanded into hot hatches and sports cars with the GR Yaris and GR Supra. Now it is building limited-run supercars derived directly from racing hardware. That progression makes sense if the goal is to elevate the entire GR brand rather than just sell more Corollas with body kits.

Production has not started yet, so actual deliveries are still months away. That gap between allocation and delivery is where things usually go wrong. Delays, specification changes, or production issues could still derail the timeline. The Lexus LFA famously took years longer than expected to reach customers. The Mercedes-AMG One was delayed so long that some buyers sued to get out of their contracts.

All 200 US buyers are waiting to see if Toyota can actually deliver a million-dollar supercar that justifies the price and the vetting process. The company has the motorsport credibility. The twin-turbo V8 is proven in competition. What it has never done before is build something this exclusive and this expensive at scale.

Production starts later this year. All 200 US buyers have already been selected and approved.

Sources: Toyota Gazoo Racing

u/gaukmotors — 1 day ago

The collector who spent $26 million on a one-off Ferrari just paid $40 million for another

Herbert Wertheim bought Ferrari's first electric grand tourer at auction for a record-breaking sum, and it isn't even his most interesting purchase this year.

Herbert "Dr. Herbie" Wertheim has a spending pattern that would make most people wince. Last year, he paid $26 million for a one-off Daytona SP3 nicknamed the "599+1." Now he has spent $40 million on Ferrari Luce Chassis 0, the first production example of Ferrari's first electric grand tourer, at RM Sotheby's Monterey auction.

The sale makes the Luce the most expensive contemporary car ever sold at auction. Every dollar of that $40 million goes to the Ferrari Foundation, which supports education and cultural preservation initiatives in Maranello and beyond.

Wertheim is not your typical billionaire collector. He invented progressive eyeglass lenses and built a fortune worth an estimated $7.3 billion. His car collection reflects someone who buys what interests him rather than what impresses others. The 599+1 was a coachbuilt special based on the 599XX platform, commissioned by a client who wanted something nobody else had. Wertheim bought it quietly and without fanfare.

The Luce represents a different kind of statement. Ferrari unveiled the electric grand tourer earlier this year as a signal of intent. It is not a hypercar. It is not a limited run special. It is a fully electric four-seater designed to move Ferrari into a new era without abandoning what makes a Ferrari recognizable. The 800-volt architecture delivers serious performance, but the design language and interior execution aim for grand touring refinement rather than track aggression.

Chassis 0 carries symbolic weight. It is the first one built, the car used for final validation and the template for every Luce that follows. Ferrari chose to auction it rather than keep it in the museum or hand it to a favored client. That decision raised eyebrows. Some collectors assumed the company would retain the first example for historical purposes. Instead, Ferrari turned it into a fundraising vehicle.

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The Ferrari Foundation benefits from the full hammer price, which is unusual in charity auctions. Typically, a portion goes to the seller or the auction house takes a cut. Here, the entire $40 million flows to the foundation. The organization funds scholarships, restores historical buildings in Maranello, and supports music and arts programs. It is a pet project for the Ferrari family and a way to give back to the community that built the company.

Wertheim winning the bid adds another layer. He is not a flipper. He does not buy cars to resell them or park them in climate controlled storage as financial instruments. He drives his collection and engages with the machines. The 599+1 has been seen at private events. The Luce will likely follow the same path.

The $40 million price tag also resets expectations for electric vehicle values at auction. Until now, the highest prices for EVs came from early Tesla Roadsters or concept cars with historical significance. The Luce is neither. It is a brand-new production car, albeit the first one off the line. The sale proves that collectors will pay top dollar for electric vehicles if the story and the brand align.

Ferrari has committed to electrifying its lineup without losing its soul. The Luce is the first full expression of that promise. Whether it drives like a Ferrari or feels like one remains to be seen. Wertheim will find out before anyone else.

RM Sotheby's called the sale a milestone. They are right, but not for the reasons they think. The milestone is not the dollar figure. It is the confirmation that a billionaire inventor with a taste for the unusual thinks Ferrari's electric future is worth backing with eight figures.

Sources: RM Sotheby's Monterey auction results, Ferrari Foundation official site, Forbes billionaire profiles

u/gaukmotors — 2 days ago

Mercedes Confirms C 63 V8 Is Never Coming Back

Despite developing a new AMG V8, the current C-Class will remain four-cylinder only for its entire production run.

The 671 horsepower Mercedes AMG C 63 S E Performance will never see a V8 option. Mercedes has confirmed the current W206 generation C Class is locked into its 2.0 litre turbocharged four cylinder configuration as a permanent decision, not a temporary measure.

AMG has developed a new 4.0 litre twin turbo V8 for other models in the lineup. The C 63 will not get it. The platform does not accommodate it, and Mercedes has no interest in making it fit.

The previous W205 generation C 63 used the M177 and M178 4.0 litre twin turbo V8, producing between 469 and 503 horsepower depending on specification. It sounded like a small angry V8 should sound. It had character. The current car makes more power on paper... 671 horsepower from a 2.0 litre four cylinder paired with an electric motor and a rear mounted battery. But the numbers are not the point.

When Mercedes announced the four cylinder C 63 in 2022, the response was immediate and hostile. AMG had built its reputation on engines that felt special, not spreadsheets that looked impressive. The C 63 was supposed to be the accessible AMG V8, the one you could justify buying instead of an M3. Now it is a plug in hybrid with a four pot and a battery where the back seats used to be useful.

Mercedes cited emissions regulations and electrification strategy. Fair enough. But then they went and developed a new V8 for the rest of the AMG range, which makes the C 63 decision look less like regulatory necessity and more like a calculated abandonment of a segment they have decided is not worth the engineering cost.

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BMW kept the inline six in the current M3 and M4. Audi still offers a 2.9 litre twin turbo V6 in the RS4 Avant. Porsche famously yanked the flat six from the 718 Cayman and Boxster in 2016, then brought it back in the GTS and GT4 models after the market made it clear that was a mistake. Mercedes is choosing not to learn that lesson.

The four cylinder C 63 is technically a remarkable piece of engineering. A 2.0 litre engine making 476 horsepower before the electric motor even gets involved is genuinely impressive in isolation. But a C 63 was never about isolation. It was about the noise and the balance and the feeling that you were driving something that cared about being driven, not something that cared about meeting fleet average CO2 targets.

There is no reversal coming. No limited run V8 special edition. No GTS model with the old engine. The next generation C Class arrives no earlier than 2027.

Sources: Mercedes-Benz AMG official statements, manufacturer specifications

u/gaukmotors — 1 day ago

The DeLorean Alpha5 Has Landed

DeLorean Motor Company has unveiled a production-ready electric GT that costs more than a 911 Turbo and arrives four decades too late to matter.

The DeLorean Alpha5 is real. Not a concept, not a render farm daydream, but an actual vehicle you can theoretically order if you have £175,000 and an unhealthy attachment to stainless steel nostalgia. DeLorean Motor Company, the current custodian of a brand that died in 1982 under a cloud of cocaine allegations and catastrophic build quality, has announced its first series production model. It is an electric GT coupe. It has gullwing doors. It looks like someone fed a Polestar 2 through an AI trained exclusively on 1980s science fiction.

The Alpha5 runs a dual-motor powertrain making 600bhp and promises 0 to 60mph in under three seconds. The battery pack is 100kWh. Range is claimed at 300 miles, which in real-world motorway use will be closer to 220 if you are lucky. The chassis is allegedly derived from Italdesign engineering, which is a credible pedigree if you ignore the fact that Italdesign will engineer anything for anyone willing to pay the consultancy fee.

It seats four, barely. The interior is draped in Italian leather and features what DeLorean describes as a "cutting-edge digital interface," which in practice means the same supplier touchscreens you will find in half a dozen Chinese EVs. The gullwing doors are not a functional choice. They are a branding exercise. They make ingress difficult, egress absurd, and parking in anything narrower than an aircraft hangar a performance art piece.

DeLorean has been teasing this car since 2022, when it appeared as a concept at Pebble Beach. That original reveal generated the expected nostalgia-fuelled buzz, a few hundred reservation deposits, and then... silence. For two years the company has drip-fed updates while quietly walking back production timelines. The Alpha5 was supposed to reach customers in late 2024. Then early 2025. Now it is "mid-2025," which in automotive startup language translates to "maybe 2026 if the funding holds."

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The company insists it has secured manufacturing capacity and supply chain commitments, which is what every EV startup says right before the money runs out. DeLorean Motor Company is not the same entity that built the DMC-12. That company collapsed spectacularly. This version is a Texas-based operation that bought the rights to the name in the mid-1990s and has spent the last three decades selling replacement parts to Back to the Future cosplayers.

The Alpha5 is being pitched as a halo product, a statement of intent, proof that DeLorean can build something other than a meme. But the market for £175,000 electric GTs with problematic doors and a brand nobody under 40 has an emotional connection to is not exactly robust. Porsche will sell you a Taycan Turbo S for less. Audi will sell you an e-tron GT. Both are faster, better built, and come with aftersales networks that actually exist.

DeLorean claims it has over 3,000 reservations. Reservations are not orders. A reservation is £2,500 and fully refundable, which means it is functionally a poll, not a purchase commitment. Tesla took 450,000 Model 3 reservations in 2016. Most of those people are still waiting for their Cybertrucks.

There is also an Alpha2, a smaller two-seat roadster that DeLorean says will follow the Alpha5 into production. No pricing, no timeline, no powertrain details. Just another render and another promise.

The original DeLorean failed because it was an underpowered, overpriced disaster held together by John DeLorean's charm and a truly spectacular amount of fraud. The Alpha5 might fail because it is arriving into a collapsing EV market with no brand equity, no dealer network, and a product that exists primarily to monetise a forty-year-old film franchise.

First customer deliveries are scheduled for August 2025 from a facility in San Antonio, Texas. Production is capped at 9,531 units, a number chosen because it references the original DMC-12 VIN sequence. The deposit is still refundable.

Sources: DeLorean Motor Company official press release, Automotive News, Italdesign

u/gaukmotors — 1 day ago

Mazda will sell you the same CX-50 until 2031

The compact SUV won't see a full redesign for twelve years. That's not confidence. That's surrender.

Mazda has decided the CX-50 (its second-best-selling SUV in America) will remain fundamentally unchanged until 2031. The current generation launched in 2022 as a 2023 model. Twelve years is not a product cycle. It's a monument to stagnation.

Most compact SUVs are redesigned every five to seven years. The Honda CR-V got a full overhaul in 2023 after six years. The Toyota RAV4 was redone in 2019 after the same interval. Mazda is planning to let the CX-50 age through two or three generations of its direct competitors without touching it.

The company's explanation centres on tariff concerns and cost pressures. Mazda builds the CX-50 at its joint plant with Toyota in Huntsville, Alabama. Redesigning a vehicle costs hundreds of millions of dollars. Retooling a shared production line adds complexity. Tariffs on imported components make the maths worse.

Fair enough. Except this isn't just about Mazda tightening its belt. It's about what happens to the people who buy a CX-50 in, say, 2029.

Sound familiar?

They will be purchasing a vehicle designed when the iPhone 13 was new. The safety systems, the infotainment architecture, the fuel economy calibrations... all locked in place while the rest of the segment marches forward. By 2031, rivals will have introduced adaptive cruise control improvements Mazda won't have had the chance to implement. Driver assistance tech that becomes standard elsewhere will remain optional or absent here. The CX-50 will feel older every year, and Mazda knows it.

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This isn't unprecedented. Nissan dragged the previous-generation Frontier pickup through sixteen years before replacing it in 2020. Mitsubishi has kept the Mirage on life support for over a decade. Both examples are universally cited as embarrassments, not strategies.

Mazda's decision suggests one of three things. Either the company is more financially constrained than it lets on, or it believes the US compact SUV market is too commoditised to justify investment, or it has simply deprioritised American buyers in favour of other regions.

None of those explanations are comforting if you're shopping for a CX-50.

The CX-5 remains Mazda's best-seller in the States, and it gets regular updates. The CX-50 was supposed to be the more rugged, outdoorsy alternative, pitched at buyers who want something a bit more adventurous than the conservative CX-5. Letting it fossilise for over a decade makes that pitch increasingly hollow.

Mazda has built a reputation in recent years for thoughtful design and engaging handling dynamics. The CX-50 is a genuinely good compact SUV right now. But good in 2025 is not good in 2030. Technology moves. Competitors improve. Standards shift.

Twelve years is long enough for a child to finish primary school. It's long enough for an entire generation of automotive safety regulations to be written and implemented. It's long enough that the CX-50's closest rivals will have been redesigned twice over.

The CX-50 competes with the Honda CR-V, the Toyota RAV4, the Subaru Outback. By the time Mazda replaces it in 2031, a buyer who ordered a 2023 model at launch will still be making payments on a vehicle that predates its own successor by nine years.

u/gaukmotors — 1 day ago

Lincoln wants to build a G-Class fighter for half the price using Bronco bones

Ford's luxury arm is reportedly eyeing the booming rugged SUV market with a body-on-frame Lincoln priced around $75,000 to $90,000.

Lincoln is said to be developing a rugged luxury SUV built on the Ford Bronco's body-on-frame platform, aimed squarely at buyers who want G-Class presence without the $150,000 entry fee. The reported price bracket sits between $75,000 and $90,000, which would make it cheaper than a Mercedes G-Class by roughly half while undercutting the Range Rover and overlapping neatly with Jeep's Grand Wagoneer.

The platform is already there. Ford's Bronco uses body-on-frame construction with independent front suspension and a solid rear axle, the same fundamentals that underpin every serious off-roader from the Defender to the G-Wagon. The Bronco Raptor, priced near $70,000, already proves the chassis can support luxury features and serious capability without falling apart. Lincoln would be starting from a known quantity, not inventing one.

Lincoln has no body-on-frame SUV at all right now. Everything in the lineup rides on unibody construction, which is fine for road manners and not fine for the kind of buyer who wants something that looks like it could survive a war zone even if it never will. The Navigator starts around $85,000 and shares a platform with the F-150, but it's still a pavement cruiser at heart. A Bronco-based Lincoln would be something else entirely.

The segment is crowded but the margins are enormous. Mercedes sells G-Classes for $150,000 and up, with AMG variants pushing past $200,000, and the order books stay full. Land Rover's Defender starts around $60,000 but climbs past $100,000 once you start ticking boxes. Jeep's Grand Wagoneer starts at $90,000 and competes directly in this space, proving there's room for an American luxury brand to play. Lincoln would slot in just below the Wagoneer on price while offering the Bronco's off-road credibility as standard.

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The timing is deliberate. The Bronco revival in 2021 proved that buyers will queue for months to get a rugged lifestyle SUV that doesn't feel like a compromise. Ford sold every Bronco it could build and the waiting lists stretched into years. Lincoln could borrow that demand, wrap it in leather and adaptive dampers, and charge a premium without needing to justify the engineering spend from scratch. The hard work is already done.

Lincoln's real problem is brand credibility in this segment. The G-Class has been a status symbol since before most buyers were born. The Defender carries decades of expedition pedigree, however questionable that pedigree might be in a Chelsea tractor context. Lincoln's reputation is for quiet, soft, American luxury, not for rock-crawling or appearing unannounced at Courchevel. Building the thing is one challenge. Convincing people to buy it is another.

The pricing would help. At $75,000 to $90,000, a Lincoln off-roader would cost half what a G-Class does and still deliver body-on-frame construction, advanced terrain management, and enough luxury to justify the badge. It would compete with the Wagoneer on substance and undercut the Europeans on price. Whether buyers will accept Lincoln in this role depends entirely on execution.

Ford has form here. Cadillac has used shared GM truck platforms to sell the Escalade for years, turning a Tahoe into a $90,000 status symbol through sheer force of marketing and trim. Lexus does the same with the LX, which shares bones with the Land Cruiser and charges accordingly. The formula works if the execution is right and the brand can carry it off.

Lincoln has been repositioning itself toward quieter luxury and a distinct design language under Ford's direction, moving away from trying to out-German the Germans. A rugged SUV would be a departure from that strategy, or possibly an extension of it if Lincoln can make the case that American luxury includes genuine capability instead of just pretending to. The Bronco platform gives them the tools. What they do with it will show whether Lincoln understands the assignment.

The G-Class starts at $150,000 and climbs past $200,000 for the AMG versions, and people keep buying them.

u/gaukmotors — 2 days ago

A Chinese electric SUV has pulled off a wild tunnel stunt, completing a full 360° loop while reportedly traveling at roughly 130 km/h.

16 years ago it was just a crazy idea. Today it's a reality and Voyah has demonstrated pure extreme handling, live.

The dual-motor EV used its 637 horsepower and instant torque to maintain momentum across the ceiling and land back upright.

Voyah claims the vehicle was completely stock with no weight reduction or special effects.

While the record hasn't been independently verified yet, it is a striking stunt if verified

u/gaukmotors — 2 days ago

Rimac says Bugatti will build a proper manual V16, not fake it like Ferrari

Bugatti's CEO is considering a real manual transmission for the Tourbillon and has taken a pointed shot at Ferrari's simulated clutch technology.

Mate Rimac has confirmed that Bugatti is seriously considering a manual transmission option for the Tourbillon hypercar, and he's not interested in faking it. The CEO of Bugatti Rimac made it clear that if the V16 gets a clutch pedal, it will be mechanically connected to the gearbox, not running through a computer pretending to be a manual.

Ferrari's 12Cilindri uses electronic systems to simulate manual gear changes without an actual mechanical clutch. Rimac called out that approach specifically, saying Bugatti would not go down that road. Either the transmission is manual or it isn't.

The Tourbillon already has one of the most ambitious powertrains in production. The naturally aspirated 8.3-litre V16, developed with Cosworth, makes over 1,000 horsepower on its own. Add three electric motors and the combined output climbs to around 1,800 horsepower. The idea of rowing gears manually in something that powerful is absurd in the best way.

Ferrari stopped offering manual transmissions years ago. By the mid-2010s, the entire range had moved to dual-clutch automatics. The 12Cilindri's simulated manual is an attempt to give drivers the sensation of a clutch and gear lever without the mechanical reality. Rimac clearly thinks that's a cop-out.

Bugatti, under Rimac's leadership, is staking a claim to mechanical authenticity. The company already distinguishes itself by building a brand-new V16 engine in an era when most manufacturers have abandoned anything larger than a V12. Adding a genuine manual option would be another line in the sand.

Whether Bugatti can actually pull it off is another question. A manual transmission capable of handling 1,800 horsepower and the torque from a V16 plus electric motors would be an engineering nightmare. Most hypercars ditched manuals not because manufacturers stopped caring about driver engagement, but because the hardware couldn't cope.

Gordon Murray solved this problem with the T.50 by keeping the power output reasonable and working with a specialist transmission supplier. Pagani offered a manual Huayra through a partnership with Xtrac. Bugatti would need something similar, and it would need to work with a hybrid powertrain, which adds another layer of complexity.

Porsche still builds manual gearboxes for the GT3 and GT3 RS, proving it can be done even in high-performance applications. Aston Martin brought back a manual option for the V12 Vantage in 2023. Both are less powerful than the Tourbillon, but both also prove there's still demand for a proper three-pedal setup.

The Tourbillon is already limited to 250 units, with a base price around €3.8 million. A manual version would likely command an even higher premium, assuming Bugatti can engineer it without compromising the hybrid system's performance. Rimac's public criticism of Ferrari suggests this isn't just talk. He's drawing a line between his vision for Bugatti and what he sees as shortcuts elsewhere in the industry.

Ferrari isn't the only target here. The entire hypercar segment has moved toward automation and driver aids that prioritize lap times over involvement. Rimac is betting there's still a market for the opposite, even at the very top of the price and performance ladder.

The Tourbillon was unveiled in 2024 as the successor to the Chiron. Production begins in 2026. First deliveries are scheduled for late that year.

Sources: Bugatti Rimac official announcements, Car and Driver, MotorTrend

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u/gaukmotors — 2 days ago

Mat Armstrong turned up at Bugatti's factory with a rebuilt Veyron and found it completely empty

The YouTuber drove a resurrected Veyron from the UK to Molsheim hoping to show Bugatti what he'd done. The place was shut. No one home. Bastille Day.

Mat Armstrong drove a Bugatti Veyron he'd rebuilt from salvage across the Channel and down to Molsheim, the small Alsace town where Ettore Bugatti founded the company in 1909. The plan was to pull up at the factory, show them the car was roadworthy, and film whatever happened next. He got there and the entire place was locked up. Empty. Not a soul.

Bastille Day. French public holiday.

A Bugatti representative later confirmed they'd actually been at the factory themselves that day, presumably not expecting a British YouTuber to arrive unannounced with a car the company might have preferred stayed broken. Armstrong posted the footage anyway. Empty gates, closed doors, the kind of anticlimax that makes better content than a scripted tour ever would.

The structural reason no one was there goes beyond the calendar. Bugatti's CEO is Mate Rimac, who runs the merged Bugatti Rimac entity from Sveta Nedelja in Croatia, not from Molsheim. The historic French factory still exists, still builds cars, but the company's actual operational centre of gravity has shifted east. Molsheim is heritage. Croatia is headquarters.

Armstrong's Veyron is one of those rebuild projects that sounds implausible until you see the invoices. He bought a crashed example, sourced parts, did the work, and ended up with something that moves under its own power and doesn't immediately catch fire. Whether Bugatti considers that a tribute or a mild form of brand vandalism is unclear, but they apparently noticed.

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A few days after the video went up, Bugatti called. They'd seen the failed visit and invited Armstrong and his team back for a proper factory tour in September. Not a polite brush off. An actual invitation. The kind of reversal that suggests someone senior saw the clip and decided engaging with it was better than pretending it hadn't happened.

There's been a wave of follow up content since then, most of it breathlessly titled and speculative. "Bugatti CEO Secretly Invited Mat Armstrong." "Rebuild War Nobody Expected." The usual YouTube reaction cycle, where every development gets repackaged as exclusive drama. The confirmed detail is the September factory visit. Everything else reads like commentary farming views off the original story.

What's interesting is that Bugatti bothered at all. They don't need Armstrong's credibility. They don't need his audience. Veyron values are stable enough that one rebuilt example isn't going to move the market. But they invited him back anyway, which suggests either someone at Rimac likes the project or they've decided public engagement with DIY Bugatti rebuilds is less damaging than ignoring them.

Ettore Bugatti is buried nearby in Dorlisheim. The company he founded in 1909 when Molsheim was still a German town now answers to a Croatian CEO and builds electric hypercars in partnership with a battery company. Armstrong's Veyron, cobbled together in a British workshop and driven to an empty factory on a French public holiday, might be the most Bugatti thing that's happened there in years.

The September visit happens or it doesn't. Either way, Armstrong already got the better story.

Sources: Mat Armstrong YouTube channel, Bugatti Rimac corporate structure, public records Molsheim

u/gaukmotors — 2 days ago

Toyota's $220,000 GR GT3 Just Sold Out, and Money Alone Wouldn't Get You One Anyway

Toyota's most expensive car ever built has cleared its entire US allocation at $220,000 a copy, and the application process involved more than proving you could pay for it.

The Toyota GR GT3 Road Car has sold through its entire US allocation at $220,000 per unit, making it the most expensive production Toyota ever offered in America and immediately more exclusive than anything the brand has attempted before. That price sits $45,000 under the Lexus LFA's original $375,000 sticker from 2012, but the GR GT3 is doing something the LFA never managed... moving units without dealer lot dust.

Six hundred and forty-one horsepower from a twin-turbocharged 3.5-litre V6. Carbon fibre bodywork. Race-derived aerodynamics on a road-legal version of an actual GT3 competition car. Weight held to 3,200 pounds. Eight-speed automatic because manuals don't win races anymore and Toyota stopped pretending otherwise.

The numbers are competitive. A Porsche 911 GT3 RS starts at $241,300 before dealer markups, which are inevitable and substantial. Ferrari won't sell you a 296 GTB at $320,000 unless you've already bought two other Ferraris. Lamborghini sold out the Revuelto's first year production before anyone outside Maranello had driven one. The GR GT3 sits in that same game now, except it wears a Toyota badge and that still reads strange on a car this expensive.

Toyota didn't just open the order books and take deposits. The GR GT3 required an application, a filtering process meant to weed out flippers and ensure cars ended up with people who'd actually use them. It's the same playbook Ford used for the GT and the same gatekeeping Ferrari has perfected over decades. You need more than money. You need the nod.

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This is Toyota Gazoo Racing's doing. The motorsport division that turned the Yaris into a homologation special, that runs Le Mans, that convinced the board to build a 641-horsepower road car based on the LC coupe platform and sell it for supercar money. It's a long way from Corollas and predictable depreciation curves.

The immediate sellout proves demand exists for limited Japanese performance metal at six-figure pricing. The Honda NSX Type S moved all 350 units at $171,495 in 2022 before most people knew it existed. Nissan's GT-R Nismo Special Edition at $210,000 didn't hang around either. There's an audience for this, and they're writing cheques.

What's unclear is how many cars constitute the US allocation. Toyota hasn't said. Global production numbers are deliberately vague. Limited means whatever the manufacturer decides it means, and scarcity is a marketing tool as much as a production reality. The GT3's immediate unavailability could mean fifty cars or five hundred. Nobody's confirming either way.

The GR GT3 shares its platform with the Lexus LC, which starts at $98,000 and depreciates like a normal car. The GT3 will not depreciate like a normal car. It will either hold value as a collectible curiosity or spike when the next owner realizes there aren't any more coming. Either way, the people who got allocations already know that.

This is what happens when a motorsport division gets board approval and a blank sheet. Toyota Gazoo Racing just proved it can sell six-figure Japanese exotica to people who normally write cheques to Stuttgart and Maranello.

The base price is $220,000. No options list has surfaced yet, so that number will climb.

Sources: Toyota Gazoo Racing official announcements, Porsche, Ferrari, and Lamborghini official pricing

u/gaukmotors — 2 days ago

Mercedes walked away from the taxi market in 2022. Now BYD's picking up the keys

Mercedes-Benz discontinued its purpose-built taxi models two years ago after dominating German cab ranks for decades. Chinese rival BYD has noticed the gap.

Mercedes-Benz held over 50% of the German taxi market for decades. Then in 2022, it stopped making the cars those drivers actually needed.

The decision to discontinue purpose-built taxi variants of the Vito and V-Class marked the end of a long tradition. Mercedes had been selling factory-spec taxi models designed around German regulations requiring beige interiors, taximeter mounts, and roof sign fittings. Drivers in Berlin, Munich, and Hamburg bought them because they worked. Not because of the badge, though that helped.

Now Mercedes is back, trying to convince the same operators that standard passenger models will do the job just as well. They won't.

German taxi regulations haven't changed. The cars still need cream-coloured seats, specific mounting points, accessible rear doors. The EQV electric van exists, but it lacks the taxi configurations drivers relied on. Mercedes is essentially asking fleet buyers to retrofit cars that used to arrive ready for service.

BYD has been watching this unfold from its European headquarters in the Netherlands.

The Chinese manufacturer has been moving into the European fleet market with the e6 MPV and T3 van, both offered with competitive pricing and longer warranties than legacy manufacturers typically provide. They are purpose-built commercial vehicles. They are also electric, which matters in German cities introducing low-emission zones.

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Mercedes created this opening by misreading its own market. Taxi drivers are not lifestyle buyers. They do not care about ambient lighting or touchscreen integration. They need vehicles that meet regulatory requirements out of the box and survive 200,000 miles of urban stop-start abuse without falling apart.

This is not the first time a legacy manufacturer has walked away from an unglamorous segment and regretted it. Ford killed its sedans in North America, then watched rental companies and fleet buyers turn to Toyota and Hyundai. Volkswagen ended Beetle production in 2019 and discovered that nostalgia does not pay the bills, but it does create brand loyalty you notice when it is gone.

Mercedes likely viewed purpose-built taxi models as low-margin distractions. They were correct about the margins. Wrong about the value of holding that ground.

BYD surpassed Tesla in global EV sales in late 2023. It has been expanding dealer and service networks across Germany throughout 2024. Chinese manufacturers now hold an increasing share of the European market, and commercial segments are where they are making the deepest inroads. MG, Nio, BYD... they are not arriving as premium challengers. They are undercutting on price, matching on quality, and out-specifying on warranties.

Taxi operators face a straightforward choice. Buy a Mercedes that was not designed for taxi work and modify it themselves, or buy a BYD that arrives ready to run.

Mercedes may recover some of this ground, but the company no longer sets the terms. That advantage belonged to the manufacturer willing to keep building the beige-seated, ruggedised, regulation-compliant vehicles nobody else wanted to make. Mercedes gave that up in 2022. BYD is still making them.

Sources: Mercedes-Benz AG, BYD Europe, German taxi industry trade publications

u/gaukmotors — 2 days ago
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The $15,000 Used Car Has Nearly Vanished From America

Used car listings under $15,000 dropped 20% in a year while average prices stay above $27,000. The affordable end of the market is collapsing.

Used car listings priced under $15,000 dropped roughly 20% year-over-year according to Cox Automotive, shrinking the pool of affordable vehicles just as average listing prices climbed above $27,000 for the second month running. That's not a temporary blip. It's the affordable car market contracting in real time.

The under-$15,000 segment used to be where first-time buyers and low-income households actually had options. Thousands of them. Now there are 20% fewer vehicles in that range than there were twelve months ago, and the ones left are older, higher-mileage, and more likely to need work immediately.

New car production collapsed during the pandemic. The industry averaged 10 to 11 million units annually from 2020 through 2022, down from 17 million before COVID. Fewer new cars built then means fewer late-model used cars available now. Basic pipeline math, and the effects are showing up hardest at the bottom of the market.

Rental car companies, which historically dumped thousands of low-mileage vehicles into the used market every year, slashed fleet purchases during the pandemic. That's another supply line severed. And it's not coming back at the rate it used to.

The 2009 Cash-for-Clunkers program removed roughly 700,000 older vehicles permanently. At the time it was sold as stimulus. What it actually did was pull forward demand and eliminate a chunk of the affordable used car pool for good. Those vehicles are never coming back, and the gap they left has compounded every year since.

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The average age of vehicles on US roads hit 12.5 years in 2024, up from 11.9 in 2019. People are holding onto cars longer because there's nothing affordable to replace them with. Rising interest rates from 2022 onward pushed monthly payments higher, which should have driven buyers toward cheaper, older inventory. Except that inventory is disappearing.

Used car prices peaked in early 2022, with averages in the $29,000 to $31,000 range. They've come down slightly since then, but not at the affordable end. The Manheim Used Vehicle Value Index tracked price increases of more than 40% from 2020 to the 2022 peak. Most of that increase has stuck.

During the 2008 financial crisis, used car prices dropped 10 to 15% as demand collapsed. That's not happening now. Demand is still there. Supply isn't.

So what happens to the person with $12,000 who needs a car to get to work?

They get pushed into something older, with more miles, that's more likely to break. Or they end up in a predatory lending arrangement with payments they can't sustain. Or they just go without.

The semiconductor shortage in 2021 and 2022 saw new car inventories drop 75% below normal. That was treated as a temporary crisis. It wasn't. The knock-on effects are structural, and they're landing hardest on people who were already stretched.

Cox Automotive's data doesn't suggest this reverses anytime soon. The vehicles that would normally filter down into the sub-$15,000 range simply weren't built in sufficient numbers three or four years ago. The market can't invent supply that doesn't exist, and the people who need that supply can't wait for it to appear.

u/gaukmotors — 3 days ago

Hyundai Ioniq 3 arrives at £22,245 with 309-mile range and suddenly the Renault 5 has a problem

Hyundai's electric supermini undercuts the retro Renault by £750 and offers 61 more miles. The affordability argument just changed.

Hyundai has priced the Ioniq 3 electric supermini at £22,245 in the UK with an imminent launch. The base model delivers 208 miles of WLTP range. The extended version pushes that to 309 miles. That's 61 miles more than the Renault 5 E-Tech's long-range model while costing £750 less at entry level.

The Renault 5 arrived late last year wearing retro bodywork and considerable optimism. It starts at £22,995 and offers 190 miles in base trim or 248 miles if you spend more. The French supermini looked like it had the affordable electric segment to itself for a few months. Now it doesn't.

A mainstream electric supermini with genuinely usable range has broken through the £23,000 barrier with three-figure mileage still attached. The Citroën e-C3 was announced under £22,000 but hasn't materialised yet. The Dacia Spring sits around £14,995 but delivers 140 miles, which is fine for urban commuting and absolutely nothing else.

Hyundai's decision to launch a 309-mile supermini at this price point does two things. It makes longer electric journeys less stressful for buyers who can't afford £35,000. And it exposes how much margin other manufacturers have been protecting in the so-called affordable EV space.

The Vauxhall Corsa Electric costs £31,895 for 222 miles. The MG4 EV starts at £26,995 for 218 miles. The Fiat 500e asks £28,195 for 199 miles. All of them now look expensive relative to what Hyundai is offering, even if some of them argue they offer better interiors or brand cachet. Range is range. And range anxiety is what keeps people in petrol superminis.

The Ioniq 3's sub-£23,000 entry price also keeps it comfortably under the £35,000 threshold that determines eligibility for certain government incentives where they still exist. That matters more in fleet and business contexts than private sales, but it's another box ticked that competitors have to acknowledge.

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Hyundai has form here. The Ioniq 5 arrived in 2021 and forced other manufacturers to reconsider what a £40,000 electric family car should deliver. The Ioniq 6 did the same thing in the saloon segment a year later. Both undercut established competitors while offering equivalent or better specs. This isn't an accident. It's strategy.

The 208-mile base Ioniq 3 will suit urban drivers who charge at home and rarely venture beyond city limits. The 309-mile version changes the conversation entirely. That's weekend trip range. Holiday range. Motorway range without planning your life around service station chargers. It won't match a Tesla Model 3 Long Range, but it costs half as much.

Renault will argue the 5 E-Tech has design appeal and emotional pull that a Hyundai supermini can't replicate. Fair enough. Some buyers will pay extra for retro French charm. But most people shopping at £22,000 are doing sums, not daydreaming. And the sums now favour the Ioniq 3 by a significant margin.

Hyundai hasn't confirmed an exact delivery date beyond imminent, which leaves room for the usual supply constraints and waiting lists that tend to appear when pricing looks this aggressive. But the number is out there now. £22,245 for 309 miles sets a new baseline whether the cars arrive next month or next quarter.

Sources: Hyundai Motor UK

u/gaukmotors — 3 days ago

BYD is putting 370 kWh of battery storage into UK charging stations to deliver a fill-up in nine minutes

While everyone else fiddles with faster chargers, BYD just installed massive battery buffers that charge your car in less time than it takes to get a coffee.

BYD has started installing Flash Charging stations across the UK fitted with dual 185 kWh battery packs. The system delivers in nine minutes what most public chargers take an hour to achieve. That is not a marginal improvement. That is the difference between viable and irritating.

The dual-battery setup totals 370 kWh of storage capacity per station. Instead of pulling power directly from the grid and bottlenecking at whatever the local connection can deliver, the batteries act as a buffer. They charge slowly from the grid when demand is low, then discharge at extreme rates when a car plugs in. It is a simple idea that solves two problems at once. You get speed without needing a substation, and the grid does not get hammered every time someone needs electrons in a hurry.

Most DC fast chargers in the UK deliver between 50 and 150 kW. Tesla Superchargers push 250 kW but still need 20 to 30 minutes to reach 80 percent. BYD's setup changes the equation because the limiting factor is no longer the grid connection. It is the car's own charging architecture.

Charging time remains the single biggest psychological barrier to EV adoption. Range anxiety gets the headlines, but charging anxiety is worse. Nobody worries about running out of fuel because refilling takes four minutes. EVs have never offered that. Until now, apparently.

BYD makes both the cars and the batteries, which is why they can do this and legacy manufacturers cannot. Western automakers spent decades outsourcing everything that was not final assembly. Battery production went to LG, Samsung, Panasonic. Charging infrastructure went to BP, Shell, Ionity. Nobody owned the whole problem.

BYD does. They build the cells, the packs, the cars, and now the charging stations. Vertical integration used to mean cost efficiency. Now it means solving systemic problems your competitors cannot even address because they do not control the supply chain.

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The timing is not coincidental. BYD entered the UK passenger car market recently with the Seal, Dolphin, and Atto 3. They are now the world's largest EV seller by volume, and they got there by treating infrastructure as part of the product, not someone else's problem.

NIO does something similar in China with battery swap stations that exchange a depleted pack for a full one in five minutes. Different approach, same philosophy. If charging is the barrier, remove the barrier. Do not wait for governments or energy companies to fix it.

The battery buffer approach also allows stations to be installed in places with limited grid capacity. Rural locations, older urban grids, anywhere the electricity supply was not designed for mass EV adoption. You do not need to upgrade the entire local network. You just need enough power to trickle-charge the batteries overnight.

Electrify America has been testing similar setups in California using the same principle. Mercedes and Porsche announced a joint 350 kW charging network in Europe in 2023. Everyone can see where this is going. The difference is BYD has already built it and put it in the ground.

Whether this becomes the standard or just one manufacturer's proprietary system depends on how open BYD makes the network. If it only works with BYD cars, it is a selling point but not a solution. If it works with anything that can accept the charge rate, it is infrastructure that happens to have been funded by a carmaker.

Nine minutes is still longer than filling a tank. Sound familiar? But it is short enough that you could plug in, walk into a service station, buy something you do not need, and walk back out to a full battery.

Each Flash Charging station stores 370 kWh. A typical UK household uses about 10 kWh per day. Do the maths.

Sources: BYD Company Limited, Zap-Map UK charging network statistics, Tesla Supercharger specifications, Electrify America network reports

u/gaukmotors — 3 days ago

Chinese Brand Flood Freezes UK Dealer M&A Market as Buyers Refuse to Price What They Can't Predict

Over 20 new Chinese marques heading for the UK by 2025 have created a valuation black hole that's brought dealer consolidation to a standstill.

UK automotive dealer mergers and acquisitions have hit a wall in 2024, with transaction activity collapsing as buyers struggle to value businesses carrying franchises for Chinese brands nobody can confidently say will still exist in three years. Over 20 new Chinese automotive brands are expected to enter the UK market by 2025, according to the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders, and the influx has turned due diligence into guesswork.

The problem is structural. A dealer group with stable BMW, Volkswagen, and Toyota franchises might look like a straightforward acquisition. Add in BYD, Omoda, and Jaecoo showrooms occupying prime real estate and tying up working capital, and suddenly the valuation model breaks. Which of those Chinese marques will be around in 2027? Which will prove profitable? Nobody knows, so nobody writes the cheque.

BYD alone announced plans for over 100 UK dealerships by the end of 2024. MG Motor is already a top 10 UK brand. GWM, Chery, Leapmotor, and Xpeng are all expanding dealer networks aggressively. For private equity firms and trade buyers who were active acquirers during the 2021 to 2022 post-pandemic boom, this represents an unquantifiable risk. The traditional franchise model depends on predictable residual values, manufacturer support, and consumer demand. Chinese brands offer none of those certainties yet.

Dealer profitability is already under pressure. New car margins have thinned. The transition to electric vehicles has compressed service and aftersales revenue. Chinese brands typically deliver lower profit per unit than established European manufacturers, which means a dealer group heavily weighted toward these franchises is worth materially less than one anchored by legacy marques. Except the market can't agree on how much less.

The 2008 to 2009 financial crisis froze UK dealer M&A and sent valuations down 30 to 40 percent, but that was a liquidity crisis with a clear recovery path. Brexit uncertainty and COVID-19 paused consolidation activity in 2019 to 2020, but again, the variables were external and temporary. This is different. The disruptive force is baked into the business model now.

Pendragon's £400 million acquisition spree in 2021 marked the peak of post-pandemic dealer consolidation. Lithia Motors entered the UK market through acquisitions in 2021 to 2022. Inchcape offloaded its UK retail operations to Constellation Automotive for £346 million in 2020. Those deals happened in a world where franchise portfolios were legible. A Volkswagen franchise had understood value. A Land Rover franchise had understood margins. A Chinese EV startup franchise has neither.

Extended due diligence processes are now standard, with buyers trying to assess Chinese franchise sustainability and long-term value. That assessment is impossible with any confidence, which is why deals are not closing. Major UK dealer groups including Pendragon, Vertu Motors, Lookers, and Marshall Motor Group are left holding assets they may have planned to sell, unable to find buyers willing to price businesses where a meaningful percentage of operations depend on brands that launched in the UK within the last 18 months.

The UK new car market registered approximately 1.9 million units in 2023. Electric vehicles reached roughly 16.5 percent of that total, with Chinese EV brands gaining share rapidly. MG's rise into the top 10 is not an anomaly. It is the leading edge of a realignment that makes the old consolidation playbook obsolete.

For dealer principals seeking exits, this creates a liquidity problem with no clear timeline. The market will not unfreeze until Chinese brand viability is proven or disproven, and that will take years. In the meantime, the M&A market that drove dealer consolidation across Europe from 2015 to 2019 has stalled completely in the UK.

The irony is that Chinese manufacturers need the established dealer network to gain market share, and UK dealer groups need new franchises to replace declining legacy brands. But the transaction market remains frozen until someone can confidently price what happens when half the franchises in a dealer group did not exist three years ago.

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Sources: Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT), UK automotive industry data

u/gaukmotors — 2 days ago

Arkansas Police Put Two Pensioners in Hospital After 130mph PIT Maneuver Meant for Someone Else

State troopers deployed a pursuit-ending tactic at motorway speed. The elderly couple who ended up hospitalised weren't the ones being chased.

Two elderly motorists are in hospital with serious injuries after Arkansas State Police ended a 130mph pursuit with a PIT maneuver that went catastrophically wrong. The couple were not involved in the chase. They were just driving.

The Precision Immobilization Technique involves deliberately ramming a fleeing vehicle from behind at an angle to spin it out and force a stop. Most police agencies restrict the maneuver to speeds below 45mph because the physics above that threshold turn violent fast. Arkansas State Police have no such speed limit.

At 130mph, a PIT maneuver doesn't immobilise. It detonates.

The suspect vehicle spun, as intended. So did the elderly couple's car, which wasn't.

Arkansas has form here. In 2020, Nicole Harper, seven months pregnant, was flipped onto the interstate median after troopers used a PIT on her for not pulling over quickly enough. She was doing 84mph in a 70 zone and had her hazards on, looking for a safe place to stop. The video went viral. She sued. She settled.

Two months later, Jaime Gragg died in Tontitown after a trooper's PIT sent the suspect vehicle into oncoming traffic, where it hit Gragg head-on. He was 67.

In 2020 alone, Arkansas State Police conducted 144 PIT maneuvers. That's one of the highest per-capita rates in the United States. A 2023 CBS News investigation found the agency had the worst record for pursuit-related civilian injuries among state police forces nationwide.

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Other states have reacted to similar incidents by tightening policy. Georgia State Patrol capped PIT deployment at 55mph after multiple civilian injuries. Arkansas reviewed its pursuit policies in 2021 following a string of deaths. The review changed nothing meaningful.

The justification is always the same. Letting suspects flee creates risk to the public. Stopping them by force creates certainty, even if that certainty occasionally involves hospitalising pensioners who had the poor timing to be on the same stretch of road.

There's a calculation implicit in every high-speed pursuit: the harm caused by letting someone escape versus the harm caused by stopping them violently. When the people who end up hurt had nothing to do with the original offence, that calculation has failed.

Arkansas State Police have not commented on the latest incident. The names of the injured motorists have not been released, nor have details of their condition beyond "serious injuries." The suspect's identity and the reason for the pursuit have also not been made public.

What is public is the pattern. High-speed chases. Aggressive PIT deployment. Civilian casualties. Silence. Repeat.

The couple are still in hospital.

Sources: CBS News investigation into Arkansas State Police pursuit policies, Nicole Harper v. Arkansas State Police settlement records, Arkansas State Police 2020-2021 pursuit statistics

u/gaukmotors — 3 days ago

Clemson students built a solar BMW that makes more electricity than it uses

A student team claims to have cracked the energy equation that carmakers insist is impossible. Whether it works beyond a test track is another question entirely.

A group of engineering students at Clemson University in South Carolina have built a solar electric vehicle for BMW that reportedly generates more energy than it consumes during operation. If that claim holds under normal driving conditions, it contradicts two decades of automotive industry orthodoxy on why solar cars cannot work.

BMW has not issued public specifications for the vehicle. Clemson has not released power output figures, energy consumption data, or testing conditions. What we know is that students completed the project in 2024 as part of a collaboration with the German carmaker, and that the university describes it as achieving net positive energy output.

Net positive energy output means the solar panels mounted on the vehicle generate more electricity than the motors, battery conditioning systems, heating, cooling, and ancillary electronics consume. Most solar vehicle projects do not make this claim because it is extremely difficult to achieve outside controlled conditions.

Toyota tested solar roof panels on the Prius Prime in 2019. They added roughly three miles of range per day in ideal sunlight. Hyundai's solar roof option on the Sonata Hybrid provided similar results. Both companies framed the feature as a supplement, not a solution. Ford briefly offered a solar roof on the C-Max Energi that powered a ventilation fan, nothing more.

The problem is energy density. A square metre of high-efficiency solar panel generates around 200 watts under optimal conditions. A typical EV consumes 15 to 25 kilowatt-hours per 100 kilometres. To match that consumption rate with solar alone, you would need a surface area far larger than any conventional passenger car provides, or you would need to drive very slowly in very bright sunlight.

This is why most experimental solar vehicles are ultra-lightweight, aerodynamically extreme machines built for racing competitions like the World Solar Challenge in Australia. Teams from MIT, Stanford, and TU Delft have built vehicles that achieve net positive energy under race conditions. Those vehicles are not road legal, carry one person, and resemble solar panels with wheels.

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BMW's involvement suggests this is not a purely academic exercise. The company has experience with lightweight construction through its i3 and i8 programmes. It has also publicly stated that solar integration on passenger vehicles is not viable at scale, which makes the Clemson project either a reversal of that position or a limited proof of concept not intended for production.

Lightyear, the Dutch startup, claimed its Lightyear 0 could deliver 44 miles of solar-generated range per day in summer conditions. The company folded in early 2023 after securing only 150 orders at a price point of €250,000. Sono Motors, a German firm, cancelled its Sion solar car project the same year after failing to raise sufficient capital. Aptera Motors in California continues to promise a three-wheeled solar vehicle capable of 40 miles per day from the sun, but serial production remains years away.

Solar vehicle startups attract investment, generate media coverage, and then discover that the engineering works better in PowerPoint than in traffic. If Clemson has genuinely solved the energy equation for a BMW-badged vehicle that can function as a practical car rather than a rolling experiment, the project's details need independent verification.

What remains unclear is how the vehicle was tested. Net positive energy output is possible if you drive slowly in Arizona at noon with no air conditioning and minimal auxiliary load. It is not possible if you drive at motorway speeds in February in Stuttgart with the heater running. Automotive engineering operates on real-world use cases, not best-case scenarios.

BMW declined to provide specifications when contacted. Clemson University did not respond to requests for testing data or clarification on operating conditions. Until those details emerge, this remains an interesting engineering claim from a student project, not evidence that major automakers have been lying about solar viability for the past twenty years.

The project's existence does raise a useful question, though. If students at a public university in South Carolina can build a net positive solar vehicle with BMW's resources, why has no production carmaker managed to do so at scale? Either the students achieved something under conditions so narrow that it does not translate to consumer use, or the automotive industry has been more conservative about solar integration than the technology warrants.

Clemson's engineering programme has a history of collaborative industry projects. This is not the first time students there have worked on experimental vehicle systems. Whether this one represents a genuine breakthrough or a clever proof of concept depends entirely on information that has not yet been made public.

Neither BMW nor Clemson has provided testing data, energy output figures, or operational parameters. Without those, this is a press release about a student project, not a validated engineering claim.

Sources: Clemson University, BMW press office, Green Car Reports (solar vehicle project history), Lightyear and Sono Motors project timelines, Toyota and Hyundai solar roof specifications

u/gaukmotors — 3 days ago
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Seven Years of Nothing Going Wrong: Why Chinese Warranties Are Terrifying European Carmakers

Omoda and Jaecoo are offering seven-year unlimited kilometre warranties. It's not generosity. It's a statement of intent.

Omoda and Jaecoo have just rolled out with a seven-year unlimited kilometre warranty and seven years of roadside assistance. Not seven years or 100,000 kilometres. Unlimited. Which means they're so confident their cars won't fall apart that they've removed the usual mileage escape clause entirely.

This matters because warranty length has become the new horsepower war, except it's being fought by brands most people in Europe still can't pronounce properly. And the established players are getting quietly humiliated.

Kia kicked this off years ago with its seven-year, 100,000-mile warranty in the UK, which was considered borderline reckless at the time. It worked. Kia went from joke to genuinely credible in about a decade, and warranty confidence was a big part of that perception shift. Toyota matches it now. MG offers seven years. GWM offers the same. BYD went to six years on the Seal, which still beats most of the legacy Germans.

Meanwhile, Volkswagen offers three years and 60,000 miles as standard, same as it did in 2005. BMW gives you three years unlimited mileage, which sounds generous until you realise it's porque they know the car will spend half of year four in the workshop anyway. Mercedes matches that. Audi offers three. Renault does five years and 100,000 miles, which is decent, but still two years short of the Chinese.

Ford went to five years and 100,000 miles a while back, clearly rattled. Vauxhall offers five on some models, three on others, depending on whether they've remembered to update the policy that week. Peugeot and Citroën both do three years, or five if you service with them, which is not a warranty so much as a subscription model.

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The pattern is obvious. Eastern manufacturers are using warranties as both marketing and proof of build quality, and it's working. European brands are still operating on the assumption that three years is normal and anything beyond that is someone else's problem, usually a third-party warranty company with a call centre in Malta.

This isn't about loyalty. It's about signalling. A seven-year warranty says we built this properly and we're not worried. A three-year warranty says we met the legal minimum and after that you're on your own. Customers understand this distinction even if they never articulate it.

Omoda's move is particularly pointed because unlimited kilometre coverage removes the last bit of wriggle room. High-mileage drivers, fleet operators, anyone who actually uses a car properly instead of keeping it in a garage... they're all covered. No asterisks. It's the kind of confidence you only deploy when you've run the numbers and you're certain the cars won't break.

The counterargument from the European side is usually something about complexity. BMWs are sophisticated, intricate machines, they say, and you can't offer seven-year warranties on that kind of engineering. Which is a polite way of admitting they're not confident in their own quality control.

Tesla offers four years and 50,000 miles on the Model 3, which is pathetic for an EV that's supposed to have fewer moving parts than a diesel Passat. Polestar does three years. Jaguar went to five years recently, presumably because they had to do something. None of them are keeping pace with the Chinese.

The risk for the legacy brands is that warranty length starts to feel like a proxy for honesty. If you're only willing to stand behind your product for three years, what do you know that I don't? And if a brand I've never heard of is offering seven years unlimited, maybe they've figured something out that you haven't.

This isn't a new phenomenon. Japanese manufacturers did the same thing in the 1980s with build quality and reliability, and it took the Europeans two decades to catch up. The difference now is the speed. Kia went from punchline to credible in ten years. MG is doing it in five. Omoda and Jaecoo are attempting it out of the gate.

Whether the cars actually hold up for seven years is a separate question, and one that won't be answered until 2031. But the willingness to make the promise is its own kind of power. It shifts the conversation. It forces everyone else to explain why they're not willing to match it.

And right now, most of them don't have a good answer.

Sources: Omoda Jaecoo NZ, manufacturer warranty terms from Kia UK, Toyota UK, Volkswagen UK, BMW UK, MG Motor UK, BYD UK, Ford UK, Tesla

u/gaukmotors — 4 days ago

Sold: $40,000,000 USD The 2026 Ferrari Luce ‘Tailor Made’ has sold at our Monterey auction. The most expensive new car ever sold at auction.

u/gaukmotors — 4 days ago