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people love to selectively pick at naoya’s disposition to extract a trait and use that as a common defining characteristic for the entire clan, what we’re entirely overlooking is how the man despite supposedly encompassing all of the zenin clan’s inner beliefs is disliked by that same clan.

naoya is the only one who has exhibited these traits and his views don’t represent the system, in contrast if we look at ogi and his treatment of maki & mai he takes an issue with their lack of strength, strength is something that’s treasured by the clan and he’s disappointed by how his daughters don’t possess any upholding qualities, he didn’t pre-assume that they would be innately weak because of their sex, they just proved to be weak with time. if women had absolute no standing in the clan his daughters strength wouldn’t have been a decisive factor, even naoya briefly touched on how his daughters lack of talent impeded him.

maki’s mother the submissive and silent woman has a certain presence to others which doesn’t line up with the aforementioned, the notion that she’s at the lowest in the pecking order is challenged by how she’s perceived by others, it isn’t cursed energy because she’s a non-sorcerer, it has to do with her surface level demeanour; someone without a shred of authority or social standing in the clan wouldn’t display the complete opposite.

let’s also not forget how maki intended to become the head of the clan so it was certainly possible for a woman, it was just heavily conditional on her own strengths. for anyone who says “well she didn’t despite coming back stronger” she immediately killed everyone upon awakening and toji who is a man with considerable strength was a bad pick because he can’t fulfil basic jujutsu requirements like exorcising CS, maki is in a similar position where she’s reliant on cursed tools to get the job done.

Now dont go mad and hear me out

İf you look at japanese ver. of this line.its actualty very funny

Direct translation here is "your nails/hands are soft trash woman(this is literaly kuso onna btw)"

So as you can see naoya calls maki 'PİLLOW HANDS' here!!!! And mappa took this serious and made him pillow punched while in manga he was hitting realy good(his one punch made choso like that btw and he could bleed maki)

And this is not first remember how his final word was dobukasu and its ended up being nick of him in japan

Or how sukuna hitting maki with 3 framed panel and mappa making maki do same thing

Like bro saying something and its ends happening towith him

Bumbito really tried to lay hands on Wegumi but forgot about megumis pet who’s ready to slime his ahh.

Like it confuses me a bit. I know it targets individual cells, but what does it do to said cells by freezing them? Couldn’t one survive the by just standing still?

That of course excluding calamity grade

Like genuinely.

There's nobuaki (grade 1 level)

Ogi (confirmed grade 1 level)

Jinichi (confirmed grade 1 level)

Naoya (confirmed grade 1 level)

Ranta (semi grade 1 who can hold heavy hitters for like 30 seconds)

6 other semi grade- grade 1 sorcerers

Nine people with techniques

120+ kukuru members

That team alone fucks anyone that isn't calamity

And you can't domain diff them either (potentially Mahito can but that's assuming he gets an opening in the jumping)

Ogi. Naobito. Naoya. Jinichi. The 3 Naobito kids all of those should have FBE. That alone makes a domain surehit so weak at each one they can just kill them in the domain itself

No the Ranta statement doesn't mean shit because Ranta doesn't know how strong Toji is nor Naobito and it's vague about the way he can defeat them

Even without Naobito around. If they jumped any heavy hitter they will kill them

Before I explain, lemme give credits to whom this scaling originated from and a few of these images. This was just a few ideas me and u/Glad_Caterpillar4771 bounced off at each other a few months ago, go follow his reddit he's insanely good at scaling JJK.

This post is used to connect Dagon to Hanami and Jogo allowing us to upscale both Naobito and Shibuya Toji.

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>The main trio of disaster curses are all on par with each other, they've been stated as a collective group when speaking about fighting along with the fact they all come from secondary main fears of humanity relating to nature, therefore making no logical sense for them to all be drastically different in strength. Gege when wanting “to show off Naobito’s character” wanted “[a] battle with a strong opponent that rivaled Jogo and Hanami” (Gege, Q&A). Although character statements don’t disprove author statements due to being falsifiable, people often note that Nanami called Jogo “on another level” to claim that Jogo is far stronger. But this is incorrect because sorcerers cannot tell combat abilities until they see it, Yuta has an aura similar to “Gojo” but is described as “something creepier” we know they aren’t close in strength, Hanami is “a lot more creepy than [Jogo]”, and Jogo states “Sukuna’s strength is different than Satoru Gojo’s” despite him being five fingers lower than Gojo at this time. Cursed Energy stems from negative emotions, the more reserves you have the more of a negative signal you give off which is why Yuta and Sukuna is insanely creepy to sense. It is a common belief that reserves correlates with power, such as Hanami deciding Todo's power based off his Cursed Energy reserves.

>Sorcerers without being able to see a fighter's manipulation of Cursed Energy will never be able to determine the strength of an opponent often leading to statements we can confirm as incorrect such as the Dagon statement which is speaking about Cursed Energy reserves rather than actual battle power. Gege confirms the opposite of which Nanami states.

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>Dagon is able to react to one armed Naobito extremely well, being able to dodge an off-guard punch rush and block a kick, all while prior to this moment he had believed Naobito had died and wasn't even looking his direction, focusing on an opponent engaging in a domain clash. Conversely Jogo while completely looking at a far more drained Naobito, setting the tempo by blitzing the other sorcerers, can barely react to Naobito blitzing past him. One counter argument you'll hear is that Jogo was off-guard, but that must equally apply to Dagon who wasn't even looking at Naobito before hand and believed he had died. Dagon and Jogo shows equal stats in speed here, if not Dagon proving faster.

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>Maki when twirling around playful cloud in the air to build up speed slams it into Hanami and Dagon in two separate instances causes a large portion of their arms to be ripped out, both of these instances being blocked. It causes the same exact reaction of being blown away, with equally large damages. Along with the fact that they both reacted to maki the same exact way. Showing relative durability and speed between Hanami and Dagon. This is Gege using the same exact character, with the same exact weapon, drawing the same exact results between these two characters he previously called equivalent, revealing that Gege specifically wanted them to be equals in durability.

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>While Jogo and Hanami were standing side to side, they rushed forward through civilians, reaching Gojo at the same time striking his infinity at once. After Gojo rushes away their punches landed on the ground at the same time, proving the speed behind their punches were completely equal once Gojo removed himself from the equation. Directly in the next panel they react at once, something instinctual that they cannot control.

>Gojo needed Hanami to be weakened before Jogo could actually start outputting more DA implying they had equal reinforcement prior to that moment.

>Jogo himself states that Gojo could've killed him instantly, which is why he required blending in with the crowd and throwing the civilians at Gojo to prevent him from being hunted down in the same way Hanami was implying that he would be blitzed in close quarters.

>Combined with the statement of Mahito implying that Jogo wouldn't be able to avoid the same blows that Hanami wasn't able, implying they were completely relative.

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>If Naobito "hadn't used his cursed technique" to freeze frame Dagon before striking Maki "would've been killed." While Hanami on a similar opponent struck them three times, resulting with them being near death with questions on if he was "still alive," meaning generously, Hanami is required to use multiple punches to match up to a single strike from Dagon. While when Hanami actually strikes the same opponent Dagon would've instantly killed, in the same exact situation using a quick jab, Maki is able to endure it with just a bruise. She doesn't even take near fatal damage. Revealing that Dagon's striking power is massively higher than Hanami's.

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>Both Hanami and Dagon has the same reaction's to Maki when she attacks them, with Dagon having more consistent off-guard close ranged reactions while Hanami having more on-guard reactions displaying Dagon having an advantage, but overall they are relative reaction speed and stats. Overall Dagon has higher stats due to being able to blitz around Maki.

Note if they ain't important to the tree and not named, They aren't here.

Bro this is genuinely propaganda against Naobito

Also holy shit how big is dagon