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Tesla is down 38% on the year and someone took $1.64M to say the robotaxi disappointment is already paid for
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Tesla is down 38% on the year and someone took $1.64M to say the robotaxi disappointment is already paid for

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Tesla has spent 2026 giving back the premium the market granted it for robotaxis. The Motley Fool wrote on August 19 that the market cap had slipped under $1.5 trillion with the stock trailing the S&P 500 by nearly 38% on the year, a whole-company number, not a fact about this order (https://www.fool.com/investing/2026/08/19/teslas-market-cap-just-slipped-below-15-trillion-h/). At 14:26:46 ET that session, with the stock at $348.085, a seller wrote 1,500 January 15, 2027 $280 puts and collected $1,642,500. Short volatility with a bullish lean: paid for time passing and for the range holding, wanting TSLA above $280 five months out.

The derating has a stated cause. Estimates through 2028 came down as robotaxi revenue arrived later than promised and capital spending ran past $25 billion; the same August 19 piece argues the bear case is now largely marked into the price. Still, Benzinga reported on August 18 that Einride ordered 500 Semis, the largest deployment of the truck to date.

The strike sits 19.6% under spot. $10.95 a share, so $1,095 per contract, 149 days to expiry, delta -0.17, implied vol on the contract 46.1%. It printed as a single order into open interest of 9,079 at that strike, 17% of it, so open versus close is not determinable: 1,500 lots could be new or could be someone stepping out of that pile, and open interest cannot separate them. Fully cash secured that is a $42 million obligation, assignment implying $269.05 net against a $348.085 spot.

A 46.1% line over 149 days prices a one standard deviation move of roughly 29%, so that 19.6% strike sits well inside the cone. The $1.6M pays the seller to carry the band between a moderate decline and a severe one. For that to be a fair price you would have to believe the robotaxi disappointment has been paid for once already, as that August 19 piece argues, and that a name down 38% against the index has less room to repeat it than 46 vol assumes. Two readings fit: cash-secured entry, someone content to own Tesla near $269 while collecting to wait, or relative value in the volatility, writing an elevated line on a name whose expectations were reset months ago. The 0.17 delta pushes me toward the second, since a buyer who wanted shares would sell nearer the money and collect far more for the same 149 days.

This works while that reset holds, and the expiry is built to test it. TipRanks puts the next earnings report on October 28, inside the contract's life, and the fourth-quarter delivery release lands near expiry on Tesla's usual calendar. What breaks it is a second leg down in expectations, capex guidance climbing again or autonomy timelines slipping past where the Street has marked them.

The Semi order supports this less than it looks. FleetOwner reported on August 19 that Einride is financing the 500 trucks over 24 months with a four-year asset-backed loan at an effective rate near 14%, so most of that revenue arrives after January 15. The open question is whether October shows robotaxi mileage compounding fast enough to pull the volatility line down, because at 46.1% the January contracts are still priced for an argument.

*Educational content only. Not investment advice.*

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u/PassNew8148 — 11 hours ago
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Elon says memory is the bottleneck and someone just took $1.03M to bet Micron won't sit still

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The consensus on Micron has a celebrity attached to it. On the SpaceX earnings call of August 4, per 24/7 Wall St. on August 17 (https://247wallst.com/investing/2026/08/17/elon-musks-5-word-statement-should-have-every-micron-investor-paying-attention/), Elon Musk named memory rather than power or GPUs as the ceiling on his compute buildout, citing demand growing 200% a year against 20% supply growth. At 10:52:47 ET a 680-contract January 15, 2027 put vertical printed in one burst into that story, $50 wide and wrapped around spot at $943, for a net credit of $1,028,500. A credit on a put vertical can only come from writing the higher strike, so the $1,000 put is the sold side. Net delta across the legs lands near flat and the two vegas cancel, which leaves the $50 band between the strikes as the exposure rather than any direction.

The bull case here is not soft. Micron's fiscal Q3 release in June carried record free cash flow, HBM3E and HBM4 booked through 2027 with demand into 2028, and $22B of strategic customer agreements including $18B in cash deposits. Against that, TrendForce's July survey (via Tom's Hardware, July 4: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/memory-price-surge-begins-to-cool-as-consumers-hit-affordability-limit-ai-demand-still-keeps-dram-and-nand-prices-climbing-through-q3-2026) has conventional DRAM contract prices up 13% to 18% in Q3, a marked cooling from prior quarters, with Q4 penciled at 3% to 8%. Both of those are facts about the memory cycle and the whole name, not about this order.

The two legs, same second, matched size:

- Sold 340 January 15, 2027 $1,000 puts at $191.35 a share, 69.7% IV, delta -0.45
- Bought 340 January 15, 2027 $950 puts at $161.10 a share, 69.2% IV, delta -0.40

That is 150 days out, with the lower strike sitting $7 above a $943 spot, so the whole $50 corridor is at or just above the money. The written strike carried 3,168 contracts of prior-day open interest and the bought strike 1,497, both far larger than the 340 done on each leg, so whether this opens new exposure or unwinds existing exposure is not determinable here. Our leg-signing confidence on the individual sides is weak on its own; the $1.0M credit is what pins the net shape.

For this to be an attractive structure standalone, you would want vol at 70% five months out to be rich relative to how a $943 stock actually travels through a $50 window, and you would want the pricing deceleration TrendForce sketches for Q4 to matter less to the path than the booked-through-2027 order book suggests. Collecting $30.25 of a $50 width is roughly 60% of the distance, which is aggressive pricing for a corridor straddling spot. The competing reading is that both strikes already had thousands of contracts open, and a matched 340x340 burst inside that is as consistent with adjusting an existing January book as with a fresh position. I lean to the second, mostly because of the strike selection: someone building this from scratch has the whole chain and picked the two strikes with prior interest.

My read is that this position is comfortable with the memory cycle staying loud in either direction and uncomfortable with a slow drift that parks the stock inside the corridor. Micron's next quarterly report is estimated for September 29 per TipRanks, and a December print lands before expiry too, so two earnings and two quarters of DRAM contract data sit inside the contract's life. What would change the regime by January is supply arriving: SK Hynix, which Tech Times put at 56% of global HBM revenue in Q1 2026, approved new capacity at board level in August.

*Educational content only, not investment advice.*

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u/PassNew8148 — 1 day ago

Last second SPX banger 🔥🔥🔥

Lots of great volatility, but this by far was my favorite play of the day. Funny thing is I sold early lol and 7690p went from .13-->3.75 in minutes! Unfortunately didn't catch that one haha

u/Mj_Options — 1 day ago

New to this community. Sharing last 7 days of options selling premium. $4,829 realized and $2,226 new premium opened.

I do buy options as well, but have been mainly focused on selling options since around end of March. As you can seen in my screenshot I do play some of the risky leveraged ETFS, but I try to keep those small and not have too many of those in play at any given time.

u/nxs_sss — 1 day ago

SPX support?

Oil spiked higher and market sold off overnight. We lost last week's low (blue line) but find ourselves atm bouncing off 7700. Vix spiked but is still really low right under 16. Stay vigilant and let's make this money 💪💪

u/Mj_Options — 1 day ago
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$NVDA: $270K debit buys a $5-wide 240/245 call corridor nine days before earnings

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Someone Spent $270,000 to Buy a Five-Dollar-Wide Slice of Nvidia's Upside

At 11:17:01 ET on August 17, with NVDA trading at $227.27, two option orders printed in the same second, in matched size: 1,500 November 20, 2026 $240 calls bought at roughly $13.90 a share, and 1,500 of the $245 calls of the same expiry sold at roughly $12.10. Gross premium across both legs came to $3.9 million. The cash that actually left the account was $270,000 — $1.80 per share on a structure five dollars wide.

That last sentence is the whole trade. This was not a purchase of calls. It was the purchase of a bounded corridor: the buyer acquired exposure that begins at $240, about 5.6% above where the stock was trading, and stops dead at $245, about 7.8% above. Everything above $245 was sold away to help pay for it. The classifier flags the two legs as one package with 90% confidence, inferred from identical size and same-second execution. We cannot prove one account owns both — that inference is from the tape, not from a filing.

The Debit Tells Us Which Leg Was Which

Our per-leg buyer/seller tagging on this print is weak — 10% confidence on each side, which is barely better than a coin flip. So the orientation is not established by the tape. It is established by arithmetic. The package cost money rather than paying money, and a 240/245 call vertical only produces a net debit in one configuration: long the lower strike, short the higher one. Had the legs been reversed, the same two prices would have generated a $270,000 credit. They did not. The debit is the evidence.

The Volatility View Nets to Nothing, and So Does Most of the Direction

Both legs carry essentially the same implied volatility — 39.4% on the long leg, 39.3% on the short — and share the same November 20 expiry. Buying vol at one price and selling it at effectively the same price in the same month means the volatility exposures largely cancel. Whatever this position is, it is not a bet on Nvidia's option premiums getting richer or cheaper.

Direction is trimmed almost as hard. The long $240 call carries a delta of 0.452; the short $245 call, 0.411. Net, the package began life with about 0.04 of delta per spread — roughly 6,100 shares of stock-equivalent exposure, or about $1.4 million of directional footprint from $3.9 million of gross premium. The bias is upward, and that holds regardless of anything else in this article. But it is a deliberately small bias, bounded on both ends by design.

That is why the payload's "non-directional" intent label deserves scrutiny rather than repetition. A call debit spread leans bullish. What is unusual here is how little directional exposure the trader retained for the premium committed.

What We Cannot Determine, and Why That Matters

Whether this opened a new position or closed an old one is not determinable. The reason is specific: prior-day open interest is known for both contracts — 12,737 at the $240 strike, 9,078 at the $245 — and both figures dwarf the 1,500 lots traded. When existing interest is that much larger than the trade, the volume could have been created or extinguished inside it, and the open-interest print cannot distinguish. Zero percent of this package sits in legs that can be signed either way, well below the threshold we require to characterise a position.

The directional lean does not soften because of that. A bounded long-call structure is bullish-leaning whether it establishes a new view or unwinds an old one. What we cannot claim is motive. A hedge against a share position, a delta-neutral book, or a corporate exposure we cannot see would look identical on the tape.

Nine Days to Earnings, Ninety-Five to Expiry

Nvidia reports Q2 fiscal 2027 results on Wednesday, August 26, 2026, after the close — nine sessions after this print. The expiry sits 95 days out, meaning the position spans that report and, on Nvidia's historical calendar, plausibly a second one in November; the Q3 date was not confirmed at the time of writing, so treat that as unresolved rather than assumed.

The day's discourse was about the durability of Nvidia's position against hyperscaler-designed silicon, framed by a Motley Fool piece published August 16 asking where each moat is strongest and what could weaken it. That is context, not causation. Nothing in the tape links this structure to that argument.

*This is analysis of publicly reported options activity, not investment advice. Options carry risk of total loss, and the intent behind any single trade is unknowable from public data.*

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u/PassNew8148 — 2 days ago

TSLA flying 🤑

We were a bit late but that's all gucci. Can't be mad about making almost 1.2k in the first 30 minutes 💪💪

u/Mj_Options — 6 days ago
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I think I’m the only bear left In this market. Thy king of ny decides 7762 to be the top. Remember this post...

u/thykingofny — 8 days ago
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$SPCX: Someone sold 3,500 January 2028 $250 calls for $8.9M — 67% IV against 55% realised

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I'll check for catalyst context before writing.# Someone Wrote a Cheque They Can't Get Out Of Until 2028

At 3:24 p.m. Eastern on August 12, one order printed in SpaceX options that had nothing to do with the next earnings report, the next lockup tranche, or the next month. Someone appears to have sold 3,500 January 2028 calls struck at $250, collecting roughly $8.89 million in premium at an average of $25.39 per contract. The stock was $148.02 at the time.

Sit with the time horizon for a second, because it's the whole story. This contract does not expire for roughly seventeen months. Whoever is short it has agreed — for a fee received today — to deliver stock at $250 at any point until January 2028. That is not a view about the next print. It's a view about what a fair price is for the *right* to own SpaceX at $250 over the entire span in which the company's public-market narrative gets settled.

Two caveats belong up front, not buried. The buyer/seller classification here carries low confidence, so read the seller label as the most likely reading rather than a confirmed one. And direction, separately, is bearish-leaning — a sold call is a position that does not want the stock above the strike, regardless of anything else in this article.

Why the Strike Is the Interesting Number, Not the Premium

$250 is 69% above where the stock traded when this printed. And SpaceX has already been there — nearly. The company went public at $135 per share on June 12, closed at a record high of $211.39 on June 16, and now trades around $140. The stock closed down 16.4% in one session in late June, shaving off most of its IPO gains, and by August 4 it was quoted at $125.33, a market cap of roughly $1.65 trillion.

So $250 is not a fantasy strike. It's a level the stock came within striking distance of eight weeks earlier. The delta on this contract is 0.43 — in plain terms, the market treats it as close to a coin flip whether SPCX is above $250 by January 2028. Selling something the market itself prices near even odds is not a lottery-ticket sale. It is taking the other side of a genuinely contested question.

The Volatility Number Is Doing Most of the Work

The implied volatility on this trade is 67%. Compare that to what the stock has actually been doing. Measured close to close and annualised, SPCX realised 95.3% volatility across its listed life — but three sessions in the opening fortnight carry most of that: +17.58% on 12 June, +17.90% on 15 June and −17.95% on 22 June. Excluding the listing period, realised volatility over the last 20 sessions was 59.4%, and over the last 10 sessions 55.0%.

That gap is the mechanical logic of a call sale: 67% implied against roughly 55–59% realised means the option was priced for more movement than the stock had recently delivered. If you believe the IPO-week chaos was a one-off and the newer, calmer range is the real SPCX, then $25.39 per contract is expensive. Note the direction of the reasoning — this doesn't require a bearish forecast at all. It requires only a belief that SPCX's long-dated options are priced above the stock's settled behaviour.

What Leans New, and Why "Leans" Is the Right Word

The 3,500 contracts represent about 75% of the prior-close open interest of 4,678 at that strike — and we measured that figure, it isn't a gap in our data. If this were closing, roughly three-quarters of everything standing at $250 would have to have unwound in a single afternoon. That's possible, and this is not proof, but it leans toward a new position.

There's circumstantial texture: ahead of SpaceX's first earnings report, options positioning was heavily skewed toward calls, largely because of one unusually large call position struck at three times the stock's value. That was a different strike, but it establishes that this options chain already hosts oversized single-name positions — which cuts both ways for the open/close question rather than settling it.

What We Are Explicitly Not Claiming

We do not know the motive, and a proven new short call would not tell us. Someone short 3,500 calls at $250 may hold SpaceX stock and be renting out upside they don't expect to use. They may be hedging a private-market or pre-IPO position invisible to any public feed. They may be one leg of something we cannot see. And the supply picture is real and dated: lock-up restrictions affecting early investors, executives and other insiders began expiring on August 6, two days after the company's first quarterly results, with 7% share unlocks set for around Aug. 21 and again Sept. 10. A seventeen-month option straddles all of it.

What can be said cleanly: a large, bearish-leaning position was established against a level the stock has already flirted with, at a volatility level above the stock's recent realised movement, on a clock that doesn't stop until 2028. What it earns is a different question entirely, and not one this print answers.

*This is analysis of publicly observable options activity, not investment advice. Options carry substantial risk, including total loss of premium and, for short positions, losses exceeding the initial credit. Do your own research.*

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u/PassNew8148 — 7 days ago

Never go against your rules

2 days I missed profits of 30k+ and 120000+

Backstory

I work nights and sleep during the day. I usually set a TP for my Open contracts while I'm sleep. On the third day I did my DD picked the direction and placed my order and went to sleep.

I picked right I was up almost 8000 before market open. Woke up to the contracts being worthless instead of sold. Trump done made a tweet and crashed the market. The bad thing is I had an order to buy more for when it pulled back only it didn't just pull back it crashed triggering my buy order.

If I would have just kept with my rules then I would have been good. I've lost 11000 this week. I've lost every single day since then and can't seem to get back in the groove.

Back to the drawing board.

u/swhouston713 — 8 days ago

SPX banger 🔥🔥🔥

Plus we banked on nvda puts today as well 💪 finally the market is moving a bit!

u/Mj_Options — 9 days ago
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First it was ibm 21000% Then Amzn for 300%+++ Now it’s $FCX targeting 62.88 I’m Throwing 10 bands at this …

u/thykingofny — 13 days ago

Dangerous spot here for SPX

We exploded and now sit in no man's land. Whatever you choose to do today be light on your positions 🙏

u/Mj_Options — 14 days ago