r/Orion_Sleep

While comparing Eight Sleep vs Orion, I did my typical reddit due diligence. What a weird rollercoaster that’s been lol, I’ve somehow gone down a corporate lawsuit rabbit hole. Writing this because I wish there’d been one post piecing all of this together when I was trying to figure out which company to throw my money at

First I came across a post saying Eight Sleep literally sent spies to Orion’s factory. Something out of a tv show lol. Naturally that sent me even further down the rabbit hole trying to figure out what ended up happening with the actual lawsuit.

In a nutshell, Eight Sleep originally sued Orion over alleged patent infringement, Orion fired back with its own claims (including the spy allegations) and after mediation both sides just recently agreed to settle everything privately and end the case.

Eight Sleep kind of comes off like a bully that picked the fight, only for the whole thing to end quietly once Orion started pushing back. Feels pretty anticlimactic for ES.

Anyways, didn’t expect my smart mattress cover research to have me reading court docs lol

Figured I'd share what I found in case anyone else is comparing the two and ends up wondering what happened with all this.

...I slept in my uncooled mattress and remembered what it was like to wake up at 3am and feel all of the heat trapped between my body and the mattress. The kind of heat that makes it hard to fall back asleep because my body won't cool down.

The problem with the Orion – why I was thinking about returning it – was that it didn't feel like it was totally resolving my sleeping issues. I was still waking up, still having difficulty falling back asleep.

At the same time, I started using Stellar Sleep, a CBT-I app, and started realizing that my inefficient time in bed was due to insomnia. I realized the only true way to address the root of my sleep issues was to do some form of sleep restriction, which I'm honestly dreading trying.

So, what I realized was that even though I hadn't dealt with the root of my insomnia by adjusting body temperature, the Orion was helping provide some relief. Maybe improving my sleep by 10%? By eliminating those pockets of heat that I would wake up with so that I can more easily fall back asleep (eventually).

Has anyone else had a similar experience, where cooling helped but turned out to be only one piece of the puzzle?