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heres some more fauj-chan and paki-chan
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heres some more fauj-chan and paki-chan

criticisms appreciated

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"The report included interviews of the people who had given her the ghusl – ritualistic bath given to the dead before burial, as per Islamic tradition. In case of state personalities, people are hired to do the job.

The news item quotes one of these hired men – Hidayat Ali aka Kallu Ghusl – as saying that the corpse of Miss Fatima Jinnah had visible wounds on it, and there was an opening in her stomach which oozed blood and other fluids. Her bloodstained clothes were also with him as evidence. However, he said, no one from the administration paid any attention to his requests of inquiry, nor was the matter ever made public. Other companions of Kallu Ghussaal, too, confirmed the reports."

on top of that, her burial wishes were denied, nobody was allowed to come close to her body, and the offical cause was given as heart attack.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dawn.com/news/amp/1159181 https://www.dawn.com/news/112727/new-twist-to-miss-jinnah-controversy https://www.dawn.com/news/133042/controversy-over-miss-jinnah-regretted

But that is all irrelevant, for this is satire, and people incapable of comprehending satire should stay away.

Finally as one gentleman implied in my dms, im not an "imrandu" nor do i support imran khan or pti jeez i was the one asking for art criticism but u guys cant even handle normal criticism

Pakistani troops engaging invading indian forces at the BRB canal 6 September 1965

Indian attempted invasion of lahore 1965. With shells bursting right in front of him this dountless soldier and his many comrades along the entire BRB canal beat back wave after wave of Indian attacks and frustrated all their efforts to cross the canal.

u/amnaoyee — 3 days ago

News reporters from western news channels examine a knocked out Indian Centurion Main Battle Tank at Sialkot district of Pakistan after the Battle of Chawinda, Sep 1965 War.

u/amnaoyee — 4 days ago

Head of Buddha Artefact from Gandhara, Pakistan Around 2nd-3rd century ce.

This stucco head of the Buddha comes from the Gandhara region which is Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and northern Punjab, Pakistan.

The serene half closed eyes the wavy hair pulled into a topknot, the Greek-influenced facial proportions and this is Gandharan art at its most refined.

Gandhara was where Buddhist devotion mixed Greco-Roman sculptural technique.

After Alexander's campaigns brought Hellenistic culture to the Indus region of Pakistan in the 4th century bce, a fusion emerged that would change the visual history of Buddhism forever.

Before Gandhara the Buddha was never depicted in human form only as symbols like a footprint a wheel or an empty throne.

It was Indus soil of Pakistan in whom workshops of Taxila, and Swat, where artists first gave the Buddha a face.

That face then traveled the Silk Road. The Gandharan model serene expression, draped robes topknot became the template for Buddhist imagery across Central Asia, China, Korea, and Japan etc.

Every giant Buddha statue in East Asia traces its visual DNA back to sculptors working in indus aka Pakistan.

This particular piece shows the classic Gandharan blend the dot between the brows are Buddhist iconographic markers, while the naturalistic modeling thee material stucco over a clay core was the preferred medium at later Gandharan sites like Takht-i-Bahi and Jamal Garhi in Mardan district of Pakistan.

The world's first images of the Buddha were made in indus Pakistan Not in republic of india Not in China but in indus by the ancestors today's Pakistanis the unique the identity of Indus which was Carved into Pakistan in 47.

u/Annual_Direction_759 — 8 days ago

Pakistani troops replacing the Indian flag with Pakistan's at Jhangar during the 1947-48 Kashmir War - when a three-month-old nation after independence fought India to a ceasefire and held one-third of Kashmir.

Look at this photo. Really look at it.

Four soldiers. One flag. A pile of rocks they just bled for and the Indian tricolour is gone./

This is Jhangar, Kashmir in late 1947. Pakistani troops just took this town from the Indian Army and are planting the Pakistani flag where the Indian one stood hours earlier. Pakistan was three months old after the independence from British. Three months. The country didn't even have a functioning central bank yet and these guys were out here capturing territory from a military 7 times their size.

Let me give you the context nobody in India wants you to have.

When the Kashmir War kicked off in October 1947, India had every advantage on paper.

They airlifted a full Sikh battalion into Srinagar on October 27th one of the first military airlifts in modern South Asian history and they had the Indian Air Force running supply drops they had the backing of the Maharaja's accession document. They had the numbers and everything thing you need a win a war against small nation.

And they still couldn't hold Jhangar.

Pakistani forces a combination of Azad Kashmir volunteers tribal fighters from the Frontier and regular Pakistan Army units that rotated in pushed through the Naoshera sector and took this town.

Jhangar controlled the road from Mirpur to Rajouri and Naoshera. Losing it meant the Indian position in southern Kashmir was split and huge strategic loss.

When the ceasefire hit on January 1, 1949 Pakistan was sitting on roughly a third of the entire former princely state Muzaffarabad taken. Mirpur taken. Skardu taken after a months-long siege. Gilgit the Gilgit Scouts flipped the whole northern territories basically overnight.

The ceasefire line froze almost exactly where Pakistani soldiers were standing when the order came through. That line became the Line of Control in 1972.

A country after its independence still sorting through the wreckage of partition a big hit still counting its dead from the refugee trains that country fought the Indian Army across hundreds of kilometers of mountain terrain and kept what it took.

Indians love bringing up 1971. It's their comfort blankek Fine '/ But they get real quiet when you ask what happened in 1947.

When you ask how a newborn country with a fraction of the resources fought them to a draw in Kashmir and walked away with territory they still hold 78 years later. When you show them this photo they are gonna be mad like always nothing special from goblins with usual scripts 71 71 shey shey dude explain this?

Most soldiers from that war didn't get medals didn't get pensions didn't get tv documentaries. They got a flag on a hill and a ceasefire line that said this far and no further.

u/DocAteTheArtifact — 8 days ago

Taxila - The World's First University Was in indus Pakistan and We Barely Talk About It.

If a korean or chinese student showed up at a pakistani university today most of us would do a double take. But 2,500 years ago that exact flow ran in the opposite direction and it ran toward Indus region.

Taxila - Takshashila in Sanskrit, sat in what is now rawalpindi district, punjab, pakistan.

From roughly the 6th century BCE onward it was the ancient world's premier center of higher learning. Students came from the Gangetic plain, from persia, from central asia, and if you believe later Buddhist traditions, from as far as china. They didn't come because taxila was convenient. They came because there was nowhere else on that level.

>Taxila a great and flourishing city, the greatest indeed of all the cities which lay between the River Indus and the Hydaspes.

Arrian, Anabasis of Alexander (2nd century CE)

When Alexander showed up in 326 BCE the king of taxila handed over the city along with two hundred silver talents and three thousand cattle and thirty elephants.

taxila's curriculum covered ancient scriptures and law and medicine and astronomy and military science along with the eighteen silpas or arts.

Some of the wilder specializations included finding hidden treasure and breaking encrypted messages and also archery and hunting and elephant lore.

The medical track alone built around Ayurvedic medicine and surgery took up to seven years before you graduated It was a whole intellectual ecosystem with dozens of teachers running their own schools and pulling students purely on reputation.

Panini wrote the Ashtadhyayi and formalized Sanskrit grammar in 3,959 rules. Still studied in linguistics departments today earliest known formal grammar of any language.

Chanakya taught at taxila and mentored Chandragupta Maurya and wrote the Arthashastra. One of the first treatises on statecraft and economics ever written.

Jivaka studied medicine at taxila for seven years then became the personal physician of King Bimbisara and the Buddha.

Chandragupta Maurya studied under Chanakya at taxila before building the Mauryan Empire.

When people talk about ancient learning in south asia and only name nalanda they're starting the story halfway through and tend to forget as it is in Pakistan and try to not give any credit to Pakistani history.

It's just 35km northwest of Islamabad and authors like Ahmad Hasan Dani spent years documenting the site and published The Historic City of Taxila through UNESCO in 1986..

And UNESCO describes taxila as illustrating the different stages in the development of a city on the indus that was influenced by persia and greece and central asia and from the 5th century BCE to the 2nd century CE was an important Buddhist centre of learning

The oldest center of higher learning in the ancient world sits was in Indus Pakistan our neighbour's will go to any extent to lebal it republic of India and edit report and erase all of its traces from the internet and that needs to change.

u/OkStrength8819 — 8 days ago

Two brothers from Kaghan Valley, Hazara Division Of Pakistan, Photograph.

A young lad from Kaghan carrying about his baby brother and helping to bring up the younger members of the family, as is the custom in the region.

u/DocAteTheArtifact — 7 days ago
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Heritage: Indus or Islam

(See Last 3 Paragraph)

There are two modern interpretations of what pakistans heritage should be.

One is Ancestry. That the pakistani people are the direct and only descendants of the people of sindh, punjab, balchistan, kpk and kashmir, and by extension the civillizations of indus mehrgarh and gandhara etc. Even today Dravidian languages are spoken in balchistan separate by thousands of miles from south india. Indians are Not related by blood or ancestry to indus or gandhara and try to claim it as their history under the pretext of "india one country" while their ancestors were directly at conflict with and had wars with our ancestors.

The Other is Religion. As the nation was created solely on the basis of religion and Two nation Theory, Islams heritage is our heritage. This means Pakistan is the spirtual success of every islamic nation and history in the subcontinent, Starting from Muhammad bin Qasim, The Ghaznavids, Delhi Sultanate, all the way to the Mughal Empire.

Now to the issue; Indians claim pakistans heritage of indus is invalid because by adopting an identity based on the religion of Islam , its severed from the Beliefs and Culture of Indus. However that is a paradox because if Culture and Heritage can be changed and denied by an identity formed on a Religion, you can simply deduce Culture and Heritage can be gained by an identity formed on Religion.

Thus If Pakistan Is not the heritage of its own ancestors because of a religious identity, then by that same logic Pakistan is the successor of states like the Ghaznavids, the Delhi sultanate or indeed the Mughal empire.

And if Pakistan is Not the successor of the Delhi Sultanate or the Mughal Empire because theyre not pakistan's ancestors or their lands dont lie in modern pakistans territory then by the same logic Pakistan is the Successor of Indus because theyre their ancestors And their lands lie in Pakistan, and indias just pretending.

I hope you see now that denying one of pakistans heritage directly enforces the other by the same logic. I've seen indians claim Indus as theirs because same culture and religion of the people (when by that same logic pakistan is the delhi sultanates successor) and in the same breath deny Pakistans Muslim heritage too. Pakistan was made by Muslims all over india who migrated there so Pakistan has a claim to all muslim kingdoms in india by that logic. I hope you understand the paradox.

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u/usavin — 11 days ago
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Wang Xiao He — The Coach Behind Pakistan’s South Asian Games Golds

Wang Xiaohe has been one of the most successful coaches in the history of the Pakistan national football team, and arguably the most successful so far.

First arriving through Chinese foreign aid before the 1989 South Asian Games, he guided Pakistan to the gold medal that year, the country’s first major official international football title in decades since the 1952 Quadrangular Tournament.

He later became associated with Pakistan Army FC and returned to coach Pakistan again in 2003. Under his leadership, Pakistan’s U23 side won another South Asian Games gold medal in 2004, after the tournament had switched to an under-23 format.

During his career, Wang also coached in China with teams such as Bayi Football Team and Xi’an Anxinyuan, while remaining closely connected to football in Pakistan for many years.

u/Humble-Educator-5140 — 13 days ago

Book Talk with Pakistani Oral Historian Anam Zakria

Hey All ✨

We’re excited to host a book talk with renowned Pakistani oral historian Anam Zakaria on her powerful book *A People’s History from Bangladesh, Pakistan and India*

Through stories, memories, and lived experiences across borders, the session will explore history beyond textbooks, history as remembered by people themselves.

🗣️ A Q/A session will follow the talk, so bring your questions, reflections, and curiosities.

Gear up, history buffs, this is a conversation you wouldn’t want to miss!

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u/Gloomy_Ear2017 — 10 days ago
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Pashtun, Baloch, & Kashmiri Populations in Punjab Province & North-West Frontier Province (1868 Census)

Pashtun Population Breakdown

  • Combined Punjab Province and NWFP: 716,090 Pashtuns / 4.1% of total
  • NWFP: 579,164 Pashtuns / 33.7% of total
    • Peshawar District: 241,684 Pashtuns / 46.2% of total
    • Bannu District: 119,168 Pashtuns / 41.4% of total
    • Kohat District: 102,431 Pashtuns / 70.4% of total
    • Hazara District: 67,790 Pashtuns / 18.5% of total
    • Dera Ismail Khan District: 48,091 Pashtuns / 12.2% of total
  • Punjab Province: 136,926 Pashtuns / 0.9% of total
    • Rawalpindi District: 29,115 Pashtuns / 4.1% of total
    • Delhi District: 15,776 Pashtuns / 2.6% of total
    • Lahore District: 9,607 Pashtuns / 1.2% of total
    • Gurdaspur District: 8,420 Pashtuns / 1.3% of total
    • Ambala District: 7,377 Pashtuns / 0.7% of total
    • Hoshiarpur District: 7,073 Pashtuns / 0.8% of total
    • Karnal District: 5,718 Pashtuns / 0.9% of total
    • Rohtak District: 5,521 Pashtuns / 1.0% of total
    • Amritsar District: 5,292 Pashtuns / 0.5% of total
    • Jalandhar District: 4,717 Pashtuns / 0.6% of total
    • Gujranwala District: 4,421 Pashtuns / 0.8% of total
    • Multan District: 3,845 Pashtuns / 0.8% of total
    • Gurgaon District: 3,694 Pashtuns / 0.5% of total
    • Ludhiana District: 3,355 Pashtuns / 0.6% of total
    • Sialkot District: 3,079 Pashtuns / 0.3% of total
    • Dera Ghazi Khan District: 3,011 Pashtuns / 1.0% of total
    • Shahpur District: 2,626 Pashtuns / 0.7% of total
    • Jhelum District: 2,620 Pashtuns / 0.5% of total
    • Firozpur District: 2,340 Pashtuns / 0.4% of total
    • Hisar District: 1,995 Pashtuns / 0.4% of total
    • Muzaffargarh District: 1,868 Pashtuns / 0.6% of total
    • Gujrat District: 1,652 Pashtuns / 0.3% of total
    • Sirsa District: 1,076 Pashtuns / 0.5% of total
    • Montgomery District: 1,002 Pashtuns / 0.3% of total
    • Jhang District: 877 Pashtuns / 0.3% of total
    • Kangra District: 695 Pashtuns / 0.1% of total
    • Shimla District: 154 Pashtuns / 0.5% of total

Baloch Population Breakdown

  • Combined Punjab Province and NWFP: 235,123 Balochs / 1.3% of total
  • Punjab Province: 199,634 Balochs / 1.3% of total
    • Dera Ghazi Khan District: 92,590 Balochs / 30.0% of total
    • Muzaffargarh District: 41,737 Balochs / 14.1% of total
    • Multan District: 12,544 Balochs / 2.7% of total
    • Jhang District: 11,352 Balochs / 3.3% of total
    • Montgomery District: 8,001 Balochs / 2.2% of total
    • Shahpur District: 6,724 Balochs / 1.8% of total
    • Gujranwala District: 5,965 Balochs / 1.1% of total
    • Lahore District: 4,527 Balochs / 0.6% of total
    • Jhelum District: 2,511 Balochs / 0.5% of total
    • Rohtak District: 2,225 Balochs / 0.4% of total
    • Gurgaon District: 2,160 Balochs / 0.3% of total
    • Firozpur District: 1,840 Balochs / 0.3% of total
    • Delhi District: 1,726 Balochs / 0.3% of total
    • Sirsa District: 1,325 Balochs / 0.6% of total
    • Gujrat District: 751 Balochs / 0.1% of total
    • Ambala District: 714 Balochs / 0.1% of total
    • Hisar District: 712 Balochs / 0.1% of total
    • Karnal District: 496 Balochs / 0.1% of total
    • Jalandhar District: 436 Balochs / 0.1% of total
    • Sialkot District: 301 Balochs
    • Amritsar District: 295 Balochs
    • Ludhiana District: 257 Balochs
    • Hoshiarpur District: 145 Balochs
    • Rawalpindi District: 135 Balochs
    • Gurdaspur District: 115 Balochs
    • Kangra District: 50 Balochs
  • NWFP: 35,489 Balochs / 2.1% of total
    • Dera Ismail Khan District: 34,703 Balochs / 8.8% of total
    • Bannu District: 460 Balochs / 0.2% of total
    • Kohat District: 201 Balochs
    • Peshawar District: 125 Balochs

Kashmiri Population Breakdown

  • Combined Punjab Province and NWFP: 230,853 Kashmiris / 1.3% of total
  • Punjab Province: 207,246 Kashmiris / 1.3% of total
    • Gujrat District: 37,709 Kashmiris / 6.1% of total
    • Amritsar District: 37,456 Kashmiris / 3.5% of total
    • Sialkot District: 35,384 Kashmiris / 3.5% of total
    • Gujranwala District: 28,118 Kashmiris / 5.1% of total
    • Rawalpindi District: 21,691 Kashmiris / 3.0% of total
    • Jhelum District: 10,851 Kashmiris / 2.2% of total
    • Lahore District: 10,808 Kashmiris / 1.4% of total
    • Gurdaspur District: 9,060 Kashmiris / 1.4% of total
    • Kangra District: 5,761 Kashmiris / 0.8% of total
    • Ludhiana District: 5,549 Kashmiris / 1.0% of total
    • Jalandhar District: 1,954 Kashmiris / 0.2% of total
    • Firozpur District: 1,604 Kashmiris / 0.3% of total
    • Hoshiarpur District: 889 Kashmiris / 0.1% of total
    • Shimla District: 324 Kashmiris / 1.0% of total
    • Ambala District: 39 Kashmiris
    • Shahpur District: 19 Kashmiris
    • Multan District: 14 Kashmiris
    • Delhi District: 7 Kashmiris
    • Karnal District: 5 Kashmiris
    • Montgomery District: 4 Kashmiris
  • NWFP: 23,607 Kashmiris / 1.4% of total
    • Hazara District: 12,238 Kashmiris / 3.3% of total
    • Peshawar District: 11,334 Kashmiris / 2.2% of total
    • Kohat District: 35 Kashmiris

Note

  • The 1868 Census only enumerated British administered districts. All Princely States within Punjab/NWFP were not enumerated.

Source

u/indusdemographer — 13 days ago

New York Times Magazine cover, June 25, 1972: At the Khyber Pass. An Economy Sized Pakistan, featuring a Political Agency Khyber paramilitary guard

u/Annual_Direction_759 — 11 days ago