r/ProgressivesForIsrael

I will always stand with both the people of Israel and Palestine (Gaza and the West Bank). I support a 2 state solution.

I’m a Christian Zionist. Spiritually I’m an Israeli, so I consider myself a spiritual citizen of the State of Israel.

I would prefer to eventually help setup and live in an autonomous market socialist Kibbutzim network, that isn’t part of Israel but that cooperates heavily with it. And most members of our community would likely also be Israeli citizens.

As part owners people are free to leave the Kibbutz at any time and join a new nation or group. We have rules, yes, but we don’t force people to join or stay. Unless they kill someone and then try to leave or something. Our courts would have enshrined minority rights and jury trials. Our militias and police systems are setup as horizontally as possible, and we elect recallable representatives when necessary.

Living in peace with nations next to us is essential. For both the nations and our people, who may want to be citizens of those nations too. 

Though we don’t practice capitalism, we are happy to live next to people who want to leave the Kibbutz network and setup capitalism. We only want to be free from capitalism, but not abolish it for people who want it.

Like South Africa, Israel must feel the pain so that they understand their present trajectory leads to a less safe and less prosperous world.

In a debate with Rep. Haley Stevens, Abdul El-Sayed stated "Every definition of a Jewish state ends up in some articulation of illiberal values, every single one,” he told CNN. Asked if support for Israel could ever be about more than money, he responded, “Not if you’re a Democrat and you believe in human rights.”

Stevens criticized Netanyahu but has refused to call Gaza a genocide or vote to end US aid to Israel.