r/Songwriters

I've seen a lot of posts where people say "just writing lyrics" isn't songwriting...

However, to me it is

Here's why:

To me... syllabic count matters: a good songwriter takes this into account while writing lyrics.

Shifts in verses vs chorus sections and so on... all matter: a songwriter takes all of this into account while writing lyrics....

Math matters: Lyrics without rhythm or a natural cadence typically aren't suited to be songs

So, if you're reading lyrics and you can't hear a silent rhythm then yeah... perhaps it's not songwriting.

But, to me, if you're reading lyrics and you can silently hear where the pauses are, where the breaths sit, where the emotions swells... then it is songwriting at its peak... it is what it's meant to be --> a song in word form.

Lyrics, good lyrics, are the heart and bones waiting for the soul and flesh (the instruments) to be built around them.

Yes, it can go the other way around, and it would seem that that is what most of the industry seems to do now, while also pushing loops...
Yet you see many posts commenting about how music just doesn't hit you anymore... and I personally think that this lack of respect regarding lyrics.... the ideal that writing lyrics isn't a form of songwriting.... is a major part of the problem and I feel like this fact... the way this aspect of writing in music seems to have been lost or forgotten is the exact reason why music feels hollow anymore.

Thoughts?

Sorry if the title is not much information, it's just I want to get into songwriting and I don't know where to start. I was thinking I can look at my past poems and format that into lyrics but I don't know how to, and I'm also only 14 so I really have no idea what I am doing with songwriting. Please give me advice! I'm also not that confident in my singing skills, I'm not horrible but I'm not great. I know I can't be horrible because if I was my theatre teacher would have never put me as a character that sings for our play, but I'd still want some advice for that part as well ꒰(･‿･)꒱

I'm going to be fleshing out and recording the instrumental myself. I wrote the lyrics and guitar and recorded my vocals yesterday. This is a working demo. Any help would be appreciated, thanks

I wrote this song, super dramatic, but I want your feedback! It's called funeral.

The church is almost empty, but it's just m'y funeral

I saved all of the seats, but no one came as usual

The priest promised it would be quick

A couple's getting married right after me

The organ player barely rehearsed his songs anyway

And they crooked my finger closing the casket

They couldn't hear me scream, busy talking

Trying to remember why they even came here

They didn't have to be here

They didn't want to be here

They couldn't even be here

Why wouldn't they come

To my first and only funeral?

They didn't have to be here

They couldn't wait to get out of here

It's a bit cold in the cemetery

No one's here to keep me company

Someone's phone rang during the ceremony

And it caught everyone's attention instead of the burying

And it rained so much people left a bit early

Made plans after it, knowing they didn't have to be here

They mispelled my name on my stone

But they didn't want to waste money on another one

And the flowers are already dying

An aunt just took them from her neighbour's garden

They didn't have to be here

They didn't want to be here

They couldn't even be here

Why wouldn't they come

To my first and only funeral?

They didn't have to be here

They couldn't wait to get out of here

It's a bit cold in the cemetery

No one's here to keep me company

A year has passed but I don't think they've noticed

My name left all the conversations the next morning

And I've heard it's someone else's turn, but there's something weird

They're all crying, but they didn't do it for me

And now they want to be here

They have to be here

They really wanted to be here

Why wouldn't they come

To my first and only funeral ?

They don't even have to be here

Yet it's all they're speaking

About, in this now crowded cemetery

And yet my stone's still empty

New album

I've been thinking about a stage name for really long that I could release my stuff under.

One of my ideas was Luis Remi, as it is an anagram of my name. But then i dont know how good it is as i am a woman- Maybe it will cause confusion?

My style is a mix of hip hop, rnb and some Abba type of pop.

So does anyone have any good recommendations or something that can help?

Hi! I'm brand new to song writing! I've only wrote one song so far but this is my next one! My first one was about a 'goddess of the sun' it's actually a metaphor of rape. I thought I'd do one about addiction maybe? It's kind of punk rock. I really love that style and the style of Penelope Scott's music.

So here we go :D

(Calm bit)

Take your pot

Roll it up tight

Turn off the lights

Though you won't sleep tonight

No not tonight

Take your sleeve

Put it to your painted creases

Your eyes, your lips

A blue so deep you want to sleep

(Screaming bit)

But you can't

You're strapped inside a narcan hole you're not willing to climb

Your supply is running low you really gotta go

Be willing to climb

Get me out of here

Get me out of here

(fading)

Get me out of here

Get me out of here

(then climb)

(Normal guitar, speaking at the start)

But darling, those weights in your shoes.

(Raspy speaking)

I can't move.

(Screaming bit)

Quite yet

Give me more time

(Calm, sad)

Give me more time.

(Laughing leering voice, fading into the background as the song ends)

You don't have more time junky!

I fell in love,

with a tapeworm

he was the product

of my own behavior

better than wine,

better on paper

worshipping a parasite

like he was my savior

I fell to love

just like an infection

and I starved myself

as a form of protection

he filled me up

and left me feeling empty

painted himself as a saint

just so he could resent me

I fell in love

with a tapeworm

worshipping a parasite

like he was my savior

better than wine,

better on paper

he was the product

of my own behavior

he filled me up

just like an infection

painted himself as a saint

as a form of protection

the early bird

fell in love the worm

one was consumed

and the other bit first

Hi! Decade long songwriter here, dealt with the emotional and mental distress of trying to share music online as well as working in studios. Somewhat needless to say, the experiences have been difficult. Between trying to receive supportive feedback, praying for meaningful connection, and wanting to feel like what I'm sharing brings value, finding spaces on the internet where this comes to fruition has felt hopeless.

My goal is to build the sort of environment that supports artists into becoming their greatest selves as well as making their greatest art. I'm here just doing research as to what type of artist the community best serves, as well as what the general consensus is amongst fellow songwriters.

Would be grateful to hear anything you have to share! It all helps.

Cheers, y'all.

First time posting here. Thanks for listening! Feedback always appreciated.

can anyone help me with producing song, like i have been writting for so long but i dont know how to produce like add vocals,tunes,beats,chords etc like i dont play any instrument (my biggest regret) but the apps maximum of them need money and ofc i dont have it so if anone can guide me through to produce a good song like where and how

hey guys,

first unfinished demo ever.. but the feeling is there. it’s my intro song so it’s only 1:30m long. vocals are rusty, just started practicing again after long hiatus.

let me know what stands out (good or bad).

thanks 🙏🏽

Though the pain hurts

the pain gives me relief

The scars help me cope

but I can’t seem to get out of this hole

i’ve dug down too deep

I’ve reached the finish line

.There’s no fixing me.

I can’t deny.

There’s like a rope

tied tight around my neck,

pulling me back to where I started

once again

my feet are dragging on the floor

my oxygen is getting low

my fingers getting cold

please get me out this hole

but i’ve dug down too deep

I’ve reached the finish line.

There’s no fixing me.

I can’t deny.

There’s like a rope

tied tight around my neck

pulling me back to where I started

once again

the blade is my only friend

it conversates with my skin

speak to it slow

tell it all the things its never heard before

tell im beautiful with all my scars

tell me im not all alone

but my heart is getting slow

i’ve dug down too deep

I’ve reached the finish line.

There’s no fixing me.

I can’t deny.

There’s like a rope

tied tight around my neck

pulling me back to where I started

once again

can somebody untie my knoose

let me be free

cut me down

let me breath

so i can live peacefully

please?..