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ITGmania vs old stepmania timing window
I last played stepmania maybe 6+? years ago and just downloaded ITGmania recently. Does anybody know how the old "marvelous" timing window compares to the "fantastic" window in ITGmania? I used to use the default judge difficulty of 4 in both ITGmania and stepmania and I'm having some timing difficulty. Either my timing has gotten a lot worse or the "fantastic" window on judge(4) is tighter than the "marvelous" window on judge(4).
Unfortunately I don't remember exactly what version of stepmania I used to play on and apologize if it depends highly on the version. I wouldnt' say the 'fantastic' window is significantly tighter than the old 'marvelous' window that I remember, but I feel like the 'great' window is quite a bit tighter in ITGmania than the 'great' in stepmania I remember. I may have just gotten a lot worse though.
Color Music 4 in Development
🚨 COLOR MUSIC 4 IS ALIVE AND BREATHING FIRE 🚨
This isn’t just an update—this is a resurrection, a reboot, a rainbow explosion of rhythm that’s about to crack your phone screen in half. I’ve been grinding, tapping, sweating, and smiling through every single upload, and I’m not stopping until my storage cries uncle. Let’s talk about what’s already landed in the Color Music 4 universe, because these songs aren’t just tracks—they’re experiences, they’re challenges, they’re vibes that demand your fingers move like they’ve got their own heartbeat. First up, Shagidi by Bini—oh my god, where do I even start? That Filipino pop energy is pure sunshine bottled into a beat, with those syncopated percussion hits that make StepF2’s double-step patterns feel like a dance-off against your own shadow. The way the chorus swells, you’d think the sun itself is cheering you on, and every tap on my phone screen feels like I’m high-fiving the universe. Then we’ve got Magic Telephone by Lady Gaga—and if you don’t know, this is the mashup that shouldn’t work but absolutely slays, fusing “Abracadabra” with “Telephone” in a way that makes time signatures bend and break like glowsticks at a rave. The transition between Gaga’s sass and that hypnotic “abracadabra” chant is so slick, it’s like the song is winking at you while your thumbs try to keep up with the tempo shifts. StepP1 eats this up like candy, because those alternating long notes and rapid jabs mimic the phone-ringing effects perfectly, and honestly, I’ve replayed it twelve times just to feel that drop hit my chest again.
🔥 DIGITALIS FROM PUMP IT UP PHOENIX 2 – ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! 🔥
This track is pure arcade nostalgia injected with steroids, and bringing it into Color Music 4 feels like smuggling a boss battle into a party game. The glitchy synth stabs, the relentless BPM, the way it builds tension like a countdown to liftoff—StepPXX is where this monster belongs, because those cross-handed patterns and sudden stops will test every reflex you thought you had. I’ve mapped it out in my head a thousand times, and every time, I find a new hidden polyrhythm that makes my brain do backflips. But wait, there’s more—Firecrackers 2 by F-777 is literally a fireworks show for your ears, with those dizzying arpeggios and drop after drop that hit harder than a festival finale. This one’s for the speed demons, the stamina freaks, the ones who laugh in the face of 200 BPM streams because they know their thumbs are forged in steel. And then—oh, then—Sinulog Festival by Tom Taus crashes in like a parade marching through your speakers, with tribal drums, festive horns, and that infectious groove that makes you wanna sway even while you’re locked in a perfect combo. It’s cultural, it’s vibrant, it’s a celebration squeezed into a stepchart, and StepF2 loves every second of that off-beat festivity that keeps you guessing where the next note will land.
🎯 THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING, AND I MEAN THAT WITH EVERY FIBER OF MY RHYTHM-SOAKED SOUL 🎯
I’m not done—I’m nowhere near done—because my vision for 2026 is a full-blown Song Pack that’ll make Color Music 4 the go-to mobile rhythm experience for everyone who’s ever tapped along to a beat in the dark. I’m talking about a curated collection where each track complements the next, where difficulty curves rise like a mountain range, where every note skin and title card feels like a piece of art you can play. I’ve already got my eyes on more uploads—more bangers, more hidden gems, more obscure remixes that’ll make your playlists jealous. But here’s the real talk: I don’t have a laptop, so creating SimFiles the traditional way isn’t in my cards. I’m doing this all on my cellphone, tap by tap, manual sync by manual sync, because passion doesn’t wait for perfect equipment. Every offset adjustment, every note placement, every test play happens right here on this tiny screen, and yeah, it’s slower, it’s clunkier, but it’s real. It’s raw. It’s me pouring hours into making sure when you play these songs, you feel the love, not the limitations.
💥 STEPF2, STEPP1, STEPPXX – YOU’RE GETTING THE ROYAL TREATMENT 💥
This Song Pack isn’t just a dump of files—it’s a journey. StepF2 will get the groovy, flow-heavy charts that make you feel like you’re gliding on clouds, perfect for those mid-tier players who want to vibe without breaking a sweat. StepP1? That’s for the precision lovers, the ones who crave technical patterns and syncopated madness that rewards perfect timing over pure speed. And StepPXX—oh, you monsters—you’re getting the endurance tests, the stamina-draining marathons, the charts that make you question your life choices but leave you grinning like a maniac when you survive. I’m already sketching out difficulty spreads in my notes app, color-coding each section, dreaming of how your fingers will dance across the screen. But before the grand launch, I’ve got a laundry list of extras: new note skins that pop like neon graffiti, title cards that look like album art you’d frame on your wall, and maybe even a few surprise UI tweaks to make the whole experience feel fresher than spring rain.
📅 MARK YOUR CALENDARS – 2026 IS THE YEAR COLOR MUSIC 4 GOES SUPERNOVA 📅
When that Song Pack drops, it won’t just be a collection—it’ll be a statement. Every song I’ve uploaded so far is a building block, and the ones still waiting in my queue are the glittering towers that’ll complete this skyline. I’m hunting down more tracks, more genres, more everything—because variety isn’t just the spice of life, it’s the heartbeat of rhythm gaming. You want EDM? Got it. You want pop? Coming. You want obscure Japanese boss themes or Latin jazz fusion? Keep watching, because I’m casting a wide net. And here’s the kicker: when the Song Pack launches, I’m relying on YOU—the community—to help create stepcharts for these new packs. Since I can’t whip up SimFiles on my phone, I’ll be sharing the raw audio, the BPM data, the mood boards, and my own rough note sketches, and I’m begging you to take that baton and run with it. Collab with me, challenge me, surprise me—because the best rhythm games are built by crowds, not corporations.
🌈 EVERY UPLOAD IS A PRAYER, EVERY PLAYTEST IS A REVELATION 🌈
I’ve spent nights syncing “Shagidi” until my ears rang, mornings tweaking “Magic Telephone” so the mashup flows like water, afternoons wrestling with “Digitalis” because that tempo change is evil in the best way. “Firecrackers 2” made me laugh out loud when I finally nailed the tough section, and “Sinulog Festival” had me dancing in my chair like no one was watching (they weren’t, but I didn’t care). These songs aren’t just files—they’re memories in the making, and I want you to make your own memories with them. So yes, I’ll keep uploading, keep testing, keep dreaming up note skins that shimmer and title cards that tell stories. I’ll keep pushing until my phone’s storage is a treasure chest of rhythm goodness, and when 2026 rolls around, we’ll have a Song Pack that’s worthy of every tap, every swipe, every triumphant fist-pump after a full combo.
🎁 BEFORE THE GRAND LAUNCH, EXPECT A FLOOD OF GOODIES 🎁
I’m talking note skins that change color with your combo meter—blue for cold streaks, gold for hot streaks, and red when you’re about to break the universe. Title cards that feature custom illustrations inspired by each song’s vibe, so every time you select a track, you get a mini dose of visual hype. And maybe, just maybe, a few experimental Song Packs that drop early as teasers—because why wait for the main event when we can party all year long? I’ll be posting updates, sneak peeks, and maybe even some embarrassing gameplay footage of me failing on purpose just to keep things real. This is a journey, not a destination, and I’m inviting every single one of you to ride shotgun.
🤝 TO THE COLOR MUSIC 4 COMMUNITY – YOU ARE THE HEARTBEAT 🤝
Without you, these uploads are just ones and zeroes. With you, they’re anthems. So share your favorite tracks, post your high scores, tag me in your wildest combos—because I want to see how you interpret these charts. I want to know which songs make you sweat, which ones make you smile, and which ones you play on repeat until your battery dies. Your feedback is my fuel, your enthusiasm is my fire, and when that 2026 Song Pack drops, I want us all to celebrate like we just cleared the hardest difficulty with a full perfect run.
🚀 FINAL WORD – THIS IS ONLY THE FIRST CHAPTER 🚀
More songs are coming. More skins, more packs, more surprises. I’m already curating the next batch, and let me tell you—some of these tracks are so fresh, they haven’t even hit my playlist yet. But when they do, you’ll be the first to know. So keep your thumbs warm, keep your screen clean, and keep that hunger for new rhythms alive. Color Music 4 isn’t just a game—it’s a movement, a mosaic, a mad scientist’s lab of sound and color. And I’m your humble lab assistant, uploading one banger at a time, until the whole world is tapping along.
💬 DROP YOUR SONG REQUESTS BELOW – I’M LISTENING 💬
Got a track you’d kill to see in Color Music 4? Tell me. Got a note skin idea that’s too wild to ignore? Sketch it out. Got a stepchart pattern that makes your brain melt? Describe it, and I’ll try to build it. This is our sandbox, our symphony, our shared obsession. And remember—when the Song Pack launches in 2026, I won’t be the one making the final stepcharts alone. That’s where YOU come in, with your laptops, your creativity, your love for the game. Together, we’ll make Color Music 4 the most vibrant, chaotic, beautiful rhythm experience on mobile. Until then, keep tapping, keep smiling, and never stop believing in the power of a perfect beat drop.
🎵 COLOR MUSIC 4 – WHERE EVERY NOTE PAINTS A STORY 🎵
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StepMania Complete 1 CD-ROM — What were the rest of the songs?
haha I have to recreate this whole post after spending two hours gathering links and stuff because I accidentally pressed the ctrl key while typing and hit R and there was no dialog to confirm the reload like there was for when I almost accidentally closed the tab and I knew I should have been in markdown mode and I should have ctrl-A ctrl-Ced at some point and I could have saved a draft and I should have a form autosave extension installed aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Back in 2006, I ordered an official StepMania CD, and now I'm trying to remember which songs it had on it, exactly.
As pointed out in this thread by /u/Zowayix from 8 years ago, the disc had 39 songs, was said to include everything the official site's Songs page had up to a certain date, and the earliest Wayback archive of that page has 39 individual songs up for download. "So far so good."
Except many of the songs that were actually included were from the PlagueMix packs linked above the individual downloads, and many of the individuals there weren't included.
To jog my memory, I've been looking at many old videos of songs I'm certain were on the disc, and looking for what other songs people who had them also had. The songs I'm 100% certain were on the disc are, with videos:
Captain Jack - "1-2-3" (Plaguefox)
Y&Co. - "Attitude"
Porto Seguro - "Bailar de a Dos (The Re-Mix)"
Mindless Self Indulgence - "Bitches" (Plaguefox) [MSI]
μ-Ziq - "Bitches (μ-Ziq Remix)" (Plaguefox) [Mindless Self Indulgence]
Dj. Quetzal - "Csikospost (Double Drum Mix)" [Csiko's / Csikos POST]
SPASM - "Dan (Old Skool Mix)" (Plaguefox)
Hiroshi Ohkuba - "Eat 'Em Up!" (Plaguefox)
Dark Luke - "I Sawed The Demons (E2M1 from Doom)" [Saw]
Melanie C - "I Turn to You (Hex Hector Vocal Mix)" (Plaguefox)
House of Pain - "Jump Around" (Plaguefox)
Graeme Norgate - "KI Feeling" (Plaguefox)
Apollo 440 - "Krupa" (Plaguefox) [four forty]
長沼英樹 - "Let Mom Sleep" (Plaguefox) [Hideki Naganuma]
Namco "R4" Sound Team - "lucid rhythms" (Plaguefox)
DM Ashura - "MAX Forever"
DM Ashura - "neoMAX"
They Might Be Giants - "No One Knows My Plan" (Plaguefox)
Theme of TITANIC - "Ocean of Memories (Trance Mix)"
PPK - "Resurrection" (Plaguefox)
Remy Zero - "Save Me (Smallville Opening Theme)"
Senser - "States of Mind" (Plaguefox)
A-Teens - "Super Trouper" (Plaguefox) [A*Teens, A★Teens]
DM Ashura - "Z" [The Legend continues]
Banzai - "Zodiac"
I'm not sure why I'd hesitate to outright confirm The Cynic Project - "Happy Theme (Trancebound Remix)" (Plaguefox), I think it was also included.
Silent Nick - "Palladio" (Plaguefox) seems Very Familiar, like it may have been included but wasn't a favorite of mine to play.
A few common PlagueMix files, like Touch of Joy - "Fox on the Run", aren't at all familiar to me. While it's possible they completely slipped from my memory, I think it's more likely that the disc just didn't include every single stepfile Plaguefox made around that time.
I remember there being One Other official ITG stepfile included, which I think was either Banzai - "Anubis", or KaW feat. ☺ - "Euphoria".
From StepMix 1:
Hypernov8 - "Tetrix (Type B Remix)" feels like something that was included, fairly high confidence.
e² - "Destiny -Eclipse Mix-" [Electronic Elation, remix of ☺ / Smiley] ... about as high confidence.
DJ Nebs - "For Not Trying" seems Very Familiar in name only, as though it was just there and I scrolled past it a lot without any interest in playing it.
I'm on the fence about whether KaW vs. ☺ vs. Inspector K - "Duality" feels more like something that was Included or something that was among the first stepfiles I ever Downloaded. DarkChao's simfiles for KaW's "Who" and "Legacy" sit in a similar spot.
DM Ashura - "MaxX AttaxX" ... I feel VERY unsure of. It seems vaguely familiar, it sits side-by-side with MAX Forever, but hmm. Feels like an odd one out. Unless it's not...
I remember having one or two different D.J.Amuro vs. DM Ashura - "AAA" files early on... do not remember if one was included.
I'm fairly certain Max Dragon - "OMEGA" [Ω] was not included. I think it was a popular file, but I don't think I personally had it.
That's the best I can do for now. As far as I saw, there wasn't even a partial actual List already posted somewhere. Hopefully this sparks a more complete memory if someone else searches for it.
cant find this level song on any pack
hi, so i like this song i played on pump prex 3 and im now playing on stepmania.
do you any of you people know where i can get this song playable for stepmania? english is not my mother languaje btw
https://youtu.be/I4xhER2LtC4?si=qbHji4s-jU_uJeep
its called "mosquito-eres para mi"
All songs simultaneously got out of sync because their “beat 0 offset” changed by its own ?
I was making custom songs on Stepmania and Arrowvortex when I noticed a song I imported to Stepmania was out of sync. I was surprised to see the “beat 0 offset on the timer options got changed completely (usually by a 1/2 or 1/4th). I changed it back then I didn’t think much about it afterwards.
Then, as I playtested for the first time a second song I made, the same thing happened. I also changed the offbeat back to normal.
I checked other songs, custom and ones I downloaded from other songpacks, old and new songs alike, and I see ALL of my songs now have the incorrect “beat 0 offset”.
This is incredibly frustrating to think about modifying hundreds of songs one by one to correct something I have no control over.
Is it a bug ? Or something I somehow caused ? If anyone knows what’s going on, I’d love to hear it.
Stepmania version : Stepmania 5.0.12
ArrowVortex version : v1.0.1
Dance Pad Games on Nintendo Switch?
I play Stepmania at home with a mat connected to my computer, and it's a lot of fun but I was curious if there happen to be any Nintendo Switch games that take input from a dance pad, too. I'd love to try them out if they exist. (My mat has a bunch of connectors like USB, PS2, Gamecube, etc. so potentially I could plug it into the Switch's USB ports.)
TapMania Legacy preview (iOS/Android)
Hello friends!
After 18 years of TapMania on iOS it is finally time to announce the next version that i have been working on in the background. To make it the game we all deserve, I need your help playtesting it on iOS and Android 🤟
For people who don't already know TapMania is a Stepmania simfile-compatible engine for your phone. It supports on-screen input, bluetooth gamepad, keyboard and probably your bluetooth DDR pad if you have one 😄 It works in both portrait and landscape and features a modern 3d look as well as the legacy look we all love.
Teaser video: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/eCNKjHOk-so
Join the discord server here: https://discord.gg/SaFMHkdtn or scan the QR code.
See you there 🚀
Alex
Want pad pack recs featuring any of: Original music (esp. made-for-SM), Lifts, 6 Panel, Weird music, Oldschool music (+ noteskins with both lift quantization colors and 6 panel support)
I grew up playing DDR and ITG/2 at a local arcade that typically had DDR Extreme running alongside a rotating secondary machine, as well as at home with all non-Disney NTSC PS1/PS2 games, and I ordered StepMania on CD in 2006. I registered my first email account in 2007 to join the StepMania forums and share the mod courses I scripted for the Hopscotch Mixes when I was just a COPPA violation. Since 2009, I've been too physically disabled to play on a pad, and I had severe eyestrain issues for a while that made me fall out of the habit of playing rhythm games, especially anything flashy e.g. mod charts. I lightly touched StepMania between then and now, and kept up with DDR releases and events to some extent, and some of the more high-profile customs.
An unrealized essentially-lifelong dream of mine is to have organized or singlehandedly created a stepfile pack with all-original content, much like the Hopscotch Mixes. My young self thought it was The Coolest Thing that regular people could actually basically make their own DDR games like that from scratch, after growing up spilling fantasies of charts for songs that only existed in my head onto endless sheets of paper. The bug bit me a couple times over the years, but I failed to get others Excited about such projects, and I ran out of my own limited steam very quickly.
I would hope that Enough people with the right skills had the same dreams, such that within the past two decades, at least a few good packs of Original Content would have come to fruition. So, where are they?
Annoyingly, "Originals" in stepfilepackspeak has always just meant original Charts, and too rarely original Music. If you search the stepmaniaonline database, there are nearly 1,000 pack results for "original" — good luck finding any Fully Original material in that haystack.
Obviously, I know of the Hopscotch Mixes. I was a contributor to the FlightMixes. If I'm not mistaken, there's at least SOME original music in the StepMixes, D3MIXes, DDR XX, Club Fantastic, and the foonmixes... are there archives of Mantis's stepfiles? He made music...
Unfortunately, even if there are some newer packs of original music, actually Enjoying The Music and wanting to play the files more than once or twice is another matter. I assume much of what would have been made in recent years would fall under the broad umbrella of Modern EDM, the recurrent tropes and textures and structures of which I feel just don't Hit Right the way classic DDR music does. Classic DDR mixes were stylistically Diverse and the music was Layered and songs being condensed into ~1:30 meant they Developed Rapidly without dawdling on long stretches of lower energy, and I miss that Overall Feeling.
My general musical tastes these days skew toward the experimental, the lush, the dense, the flashy, the oddly-syncopated, and stuff that's just in some way Idiosyncratic. Some enduring DDR/BEMANI/ITG favorites As Music, to give you an idea, include AM-3P (+ remixes), If You Were Here, SP-Trip Machine ~Jungle Mix~, WILD RUSH (+ PCM Remix), DROP OUT, Orion.78 (both), INSERTiON, more deep (ver.2.1), L'amour et la liberté (DDR Ver.), Trip Machine Survivor, PARANOIA Survivor MAX, Scorching Moon, PARANOiA -Respect-, CHAOS, Trim, dazzle, S・A・G・A, Centaur, UZIEL, Hand Of Time, Solina, Turn It On, and most things by TaQ and ZigZag.
Another unfortunate thing here is that the skittery IDM regions of experimental™ are attractive to keyboard charters in particular, and my finger joints cannot withstand what they demand.
I also prefer pad charts because, even though I can't actually move my body to them, I have a phantom sense of what it should feel like, which gets tripped up when a chart doesn't flow well in that regard.
Having had Konamix as my first properly-Owned DDR game, I have fond memories of playing Solo mode, and I always thought it was a shame that the style has rarely been explored since. Having found a like-minded friend in recent times, and having found greater appreciation looking back at old Solo charts and the sorts of motions found in Them Uniquely among DDR officials, I'd like recs for... any solo charts anyone has ever dared to make? I see that according to SMO, foonmix 2 surprisingly has solo charts for everything, which I never knew about, but I also don't trust SMO's archived version to be entirely as it was originally, glancing at its formatting... the official site is still up, amazingly, but the download link there is dead.
I'm also very interested in anything featuring Lifts. They just seem like a natural thing to include in charts, and it's Sad and rather Confusing how they're so poorly supported and thus underutilized. It's a Noteskin thing, I reckon — if more noteskins actually represented lifts well, they'd see more use. SMEditor's default scalable Cel noteskin is pretty much Perfect as far as I can tell, representing lifts very readably to me as hollowed-out taps with their regular quantization colors, on top of supporting 6 panel, but I can't simply directly rip that noteskin out of the program, and other versions of the same noteskin even by the same author are functional downgrades for the time being. There are A Few noteskins that use quantization-colored lifts that look natural, it's clearly manageable in ~the same way as regular taps, so why do most noteskins have to just leave them as some static graphic that's at its worst borderline indistinguishable from a 64th or 192nd note, and sometimes literally impossible to make out at lower scroll speeds (when they look like just the tips of taps)?! Like, the lack of quantization colors is just Nonsense for a gameplay element that's judged exactly as tightly as taps are, and it seems like anyone who'd desire to make a Fully Functional noteskin wouldn't overlook that. Taking noteskin recs too.
s' yeh them's my wishes, how true may they come?