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Listening to the latest SOTR, one thing that stood out was Isaac’s view of anti-semitism. As he states, the definition of Zionism is the belief that Jews have a right to their own state, but as a secular person I find the idea that any religious group deserves its own state to be absurd.

Do we believe that christians have a right to their own state? That buddhists have a right to their own state? That satanists have a right to their own state? Where do we draw the line? Do you need a certain size of followers before you have a right to your own state?

This entire notion seems absurd. I don’t believe any group has any right to their own state other than the citizens of that country. I don’t believe any racial or religious group is somehow entitled to their own state, and it’s also absurd to consider it discriminatory to hold that view.

I follow the news. I’m not a news junkie or anything, but I stay informed.

I would have no idea who Hasan Piker was if the staff at Tangle weren’t constantly talking about him. He seems to have a really outsized presence in their minds. As the kids say, he lives rent-free in their heads.

Or am I wrong? Is he actually that prominent and I’m just out of touch?

It feels to me like the right finds him convenient to use as a left wing boogey man, so they obsess over him, and so the Tangle staff get a lot of exposure due to paying a lot of attention to right wing media, as part of the job. I’m not convinced he’s particularly influential on the left.

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In today's SOTR, the hosts seemed to agree that talking with people you disagree with is fine and even good, and that hosting Ana Kasparian at Tangle Live doesn't mean Isaac endorses her views.

I agree with all of that. But I'm trying to square it with the August 6 SOTR.

Isaac, describing Kmele's view

>"[Kmele] was basically articulating the view that [El-Sayed] has basically [palled] around with [Hasan] Piker. He's on the campaign trail with him. He viewed that as sort of disqualifying given the views that [Hasan] Piker [espouses]."

Audrey

>"...when it gets to the point where it's like you're palling around or it's clearly like a softball situation, you seem really buddy-buddy... That's where I kind of draw the line... there's much more of like them campaigning together versus just I'm appearing on your show to talk to your audience, right? That's what I don't like. And I think it should be disqualifying..."

>"...appearing on the campaign trail is probably where I say that crosses the line kind of permanently..."

So my question is: what’s the basis for saying El-Sayed should be disqualified? Tangle hosted, promoted, and sold tickets to an event with Ana as a featured guest, and I can't imagine anybody at Tangle said that should be "disqualifying". That was framed as hearing different voices. Why does El-Sayed appearing at events with Piker go from talking to people you disagree with on some issues is fine and good to “disqualifying”? El-Sayed has said many times that he disagrees with Piker on "many things", as Isaac said he disagrees with Ana Kasparian or Michael Tracey on many things.
I'm genuinely confused how these two expressed views are consistent.
How and why is the standard for El-Sayed different?

Thank you for your attention to this matter

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I'd love to hear the team's position on it. The media ecosystem getting more and more consolidated contributes to the problem Tangle aims to attack, where instead of disseminating information, they're cultivating an echo chamber. Putting CBS and CNN under the same ownership ties that in with the ongoing trend of market consolidation. Do you expect a change in reporting from these outlets? Is market consolidation in general something we should be concerned about?

Alright folks, it’s time. Consider this your open mic, your therapy session, your personal Festivus.

Got a boss who thinks “urgent” means every single email? A neighbor who mows the lawn at 7 a.m. on Saturdays? A phone that autocorrects “ducking” when you clearly meant something else?

This is the spot to unload. Big or small, petty or profound — if it’s gnawing at you, drop it here. Rant. Rave. Roast.

Rules are simple:
• No personal info.
• Keep it cathartic, not cruel.
• Upvote the stuff that makes you nod and say “YES, SAME.”

Let the grievances fly.