Like the satc sjp and Kim C fued that lasted years this one will probably be brief, slightly awkward at worst but civil maybe not even on the pod but all three of them on a neutral space and it would benefit from the headlines a bit for all 3 of them lol
Happy Fourth to those who celebrate! 🥳🇺🇸🍔🎇
Decided last night to rewatch Inside the Playboy Mansion, an A&E special that Kevin Burns filmed back in 2001 with the original party posse and had some major thoughts on what kind of content and parallels that also wound up repeating themselves on the first 5 seasons of Girls Next Door.
After watching it, I found a lot of things really interesting about the documentary, some of the things that Kevin Burns went out of his way to film, and some of the people interviewed.. versus what people chose to share about their experiences later on the Secrets of series.
First of all, I really feel like this serves as the unofficial pilot for Girls Next Door as well as the kind of upstairs-downstairs concept of highlighting the staff at the mansion, the mansion guests, and the mixed salad we got for all of those concepts mixed together.
Things that stuck out to me were 1.) the presence of so many clips of talking heads interviews from Hefner’s ex girlfriends. Barbi Benton, Shannon Tweed, Brande Roderick, brief clips of Kimberly Conrad. It really foreshadowed the heavy level of involvement Kevin was trying to get out of Barbi Benton and I found that really interesting. Because I am guessing Barbi was plenty snarky and honest based on really listening to her interview clips, she had some attitude and wasn’t always warm and complimentary. I could tell it had been edited to get the snippets of what Hefner was proud of (not being monogamous) even when she sounded hurt and angry by being asked about it.
2.) I was surprised to see it showed a scene of Mary briefing Hefner, and getting something scheduled confirmed then we get a brief Mary interview. The amount she’s in GND and where we see her posted up in her office interacting with the girls, briefing plans, and interacting with Hefner struck me as well that there was something about this relationship that Kevin Burns found important to really keep documenting because she was such an integral part to the way they operated. Across all the GND seasons, I’m so used to seeing Mary and Hefner interacting, and Mary and the girls interacting; so I really had to rewind it back and detail that it planted a seed of content that Kevin really relied on using to build context, set up scenes and plot points.
3.) The scenes of Hefner and his friends at manly night. Bryant the butler’s interview refers back to Kevin Burns beginning to be invited to the Monday manly nights after he’d been documenting them to film for this. And that he saw the just relationship and atmosphere between the staff and each other, the staff and the guests, Hefner and the guests and that there was something he saw and declared that there was something there worth pursuing continuing to document and film. I also kind of wondered if for selfish reasons, Kevin wanted another filming project to be involving the mansion because he himself wanted continued access, wanted to be cemented into that in-group and wanted to feel part of one of the toughest to join, but arguably a coveted group of Hollywood guys to be a part of. Basically he wanted to stay being one of the cool kids and wanted access any time, wanted to be included in the weekly nights and wanted to feel like the staff would treat him as one of the guys too so another series being filmed continuously at the mansion would be that ticket to ensure that.
4.) I noticed that Mark Saginor is repeatedly interviewed and “lowered third” credited as just Hefners physician, but was reputedly considered one of his absolute closest friends, he kept a bedroom at the mansion, and I’d already heard he and Kimberly didn’t get along. During two of his talking heads interviews, he speaks with a bit of derision and distaste about the “dead ball era” of Hefners marriage, where guests being at the house around the clock and big parties had halted. And there’s no question why, he occupied bedroom 2 at the mansion and that ultimately wound up as Kimberly’s own suite where she had the bathroom gutted and redone for herself. Which means Mark was likely told to scram and specifically by Kimberly with Hefner backing it.
Interestingly enough, around the time that Girls Next Door began filming, Saginor was arrested, was in and out of rehab, got accused of drugging and raping women, and eventually his medical license was revoked.. so while he’s prominently featured in the A&E documentary, he’s never once seen on camera on any Girls Next Door episodes, and I sincerely looked. I remember hearing and reading that Saginor wasn’t fully welcome for a brief period at the mansion, and I kind of wondered if these guys at manly night saw an open chair position in the “bff” role, and people like Dickie Bann and Ray Anthony kind of vied for it, with Kevin Burns seeing that overall a seat had been vacated at the table and having “his” show filming continuously ensured that seat stayed his.
So my dog turns 6 next month and ive been going back and forth on this, is it unhinged to throw her a birthday party?? she wont know its her birthday, wont remember the decorations, and the "cake" will be literally just mashed sweet potato shaped into a circle lol. but ill remember it, my friends will have a good time, and a saturday spent putting a party hat on a dog just sounds fun tbh
I think the "weird" feeling is really just worrying about what the response will be from my friends. but toddlers dont understand their first bday either and we still throw those parties. if it makes you and the dog happy and your not going into debt over some custom cake, i dont see whats wrong with it. just buy the party hat
Anyone else do this? Curious what people's dog (or cat, no judgment) parties actually looked like. 😂
H & B discuss an episode of that sex tape show on only fans. Holly says she could pay her monthly bills in 2 days of work when she did only fans - but stopped because her kids are growing up and she didn’t want to fight with Pasquale about it anymore.
How is this the 1st I've learned of this?
Hey! As the other seasons of the DCC show were a topic on this sub, there seems to be a big interest overlap with GND and DCC fans.
After watching season 3 I wanted to get more content on the show and found this pod episode. They did their research and the ep made me think.
They talk about aesthetic labor and femininity, and I thought many criticisms could also be applied to the Playboy world.
If this is too off topic, mods feel free to delete it! If not and anyone has some other pod suggestions, please share them below!
Has anyone watched this ? I’m halfway through and have enjoyed it. I would actually be interested in Holly and Bridget doing a Patreon review on it. I thought it might be weird for them to talk about a show just about hef but I know they are knowledgeable about the company and it’s interesting how it talks about what the world was like and going through when they talk about each year as the story goes on.
Good watch
Hi everyone!
I found (this episode) of The Howard Stern Show with PMOY 2002 and gf Dalene Kurtis on May 3rd 2002. She seemed very sweet and talks about her video shoot for Playboy and what she wants to do after Playboy. Also, it seems like she was in the same Hawaiian Tropic contest that Holly was when she got invited to the mansion.
You have to choose the May 3rd episode. They start talking about her at around 01:42:00 and the interview begins at 01:47:00.
I hope you enjoy it and let me know what you think. :)
The girls catch up. B talks at length about her recent Banff trip to Canada. Holly shares about her brain scan. I’m only halfway through so will add more later unless someone beats me to it in the comments:).
As a Canadian was enjoying hearing B discuss Canada and how she thought it would be cold from the weather forecast but it was sunny everyday and the sun doesn’t set until 11pm☀️. LOL at them trying to figure out why it was called the Rundle lounge and Holly googling to find “a rung on a ladder” - it’s a beautiful mountain in Banff thus why things are named after it 😆
Holly Madison repping Raider Nation
Found these at my local head/sex shop, for $3.99 each. Apologies for shitty phone camera pics in my poorly lit apartment.
Just watched Tara’s YouTube video with Holly !
First clip - I looooove Holly but her type is rich, douchey guys 😩 I wish she’d realize her worth because she deserves her happy ending.
Second clip - I felt bad for Holly because that must’ve been so awkward. When she said “ yeah, or something “ knowing she was really in the bedroom with Hef and all the girls, I cringed for her a little. Obviously it would’ve been weird to say what was actually going on, but it’s still pretty awkward knowing what was really happening after they left the parties lol
Anyone else who watched it have any thoughts?
It’s probably been mentioned before but I’ve forgotten/missed it. Did Bridget have a failed pilot? What was it supposed to be and when was it filmed? She was talking about the fun in the sun girl that they wanted to put in her show but she wanted her actual friendships shown.