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Image 1 — My late dad left me two small Cessnas, his mechanic offered to buy them, but his new invoice for previous work has me scratching my head. Any advice would be appreciated!
Image 2 — My late dad left me two small Cessnas, his mechanic offered to buy them, but his new invoice for previous work has me scratching my head. Any advice would be appreciated!
Image 3 — My late dad left me two small Cessnas, his mechanic offered to buy them, but his new invoice for previous work has me scratching my head. Any advice would be appreciated!
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My late dad left me two small Cessnas, his mechanic offered to buy them, but his new invoice for previous work has me scratching my head. Any advice would be appreciated!

Hoping for some insight from folks who know small Cessnas and shop work. I'm not a pilot, but my dad was, and he left behind some airplanes when he died a couple of months back. He owned a 1967 Cessna 150G and a 1946 Cessna 120, both flyable (the 120 is out of annual since June 2023, possibly needs wing re-cover, but apparently not in the immediate future).

His longtime A&P/IA has informed us that there was a verbal agreement: he'd do work on the planes in exchange for being able to fly them to give lessons. My dad's gone, so I can't verify any of that. The mechanic has also offered to buy both planes outright, for $35k total, minus the invoices he's produced for work performed. The combined invoices total around $20k, leaving us with roughly a $15k check total for both airplanes. He's the only person bidding because he's the only person who knows the planes, and we haven't advertised them anywhere.

I want to be clear, I am by no means trying to discredit his mechanic or imply his isn’t an honest person, I am just looking for some additional reassurance that we aren't being completely taken advantage of. There are few things on the invoices I'd love a gut-check on (I've attached redacted images of them with those lines highlighted):

1. 150G invoice — 45 hours of labor at $125/hr for installing a used GTX 320A, KY 97A, and SCI-S4. Is that in the ballpark, or high? My understanding is this is a non-ADS-B-out transponder anyway, so what's the value here?

2. Same invoice — 40 hours of labor at $95/hr for torquing wing strut bolts, reconnecting pitot, reconnecting nav/landing lights, and rigging ailerons. That feels like a lot of hours. Does anyone have any idea if this is ball-park, or possibly an honest error?

3. The 120 invoice is two line items totaling $2,769.38 with no other description. I believe he said these were for annuals and other maintenance, but is it reasonable for me to ask for these to be itemized before crediting them against the sale price?

Second question — the sale value itself: For a flyable 150G (TTAF ~3,500, fresh Feb 2025 annual, engine SMOH unknown) and a 120 (TTAF ~4,700, TSMOH ~1,500, out of annual, fabric possibly tired), is $35k combined fair, or low, or am I underestimating the as-is reality?

Happy to share more details. Mostly trying to figure out what's a normal shop bill, what's worth questioning, and what fair as-is values look like before I sign anything. Will get an independent A&P out for a pre-purchase regardless. Thanks for any thoughts.

u/ElectricPotatoStar — 1 day ago

There's no good free aircraft management software for owners and clubs, so I built one

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u/chocksoffdotcom — 3 days ago

Looking for Sentry ADSB for Sale

Hello Pilots and owners, working on my Commercial and I’m looking if anyone has a Sentry for sale.

Located in Los Angeles but willing to pay shipping

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u/Configfile45 — 3 days ago

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u/pilot_opensky — 4 days ago

Selling my airplane - need advice

This is my first post here and I don't want to break any sub rules, so I am just making a very general first post.

I have an airplane I have been trying to sell on a big listing site. I've had several tire-kicker emails. Only one person has actually came out for a pre-buy, a week later said his financing fell through.

Am I allowed to post a link here? Or just post the whole sales package and pricing? What is the best way to get some views and some feedback from the community?

Thanks in advance

>Follow the title formatting rules, violating posts will be removed for resubmission with compliant titles.

I could not find the title formatting rules.

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u/taint_tattoo — 10 days ago
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MRO AVIATION GRANADA REVIEW

Since there is no review here I thought I should add!
I have flown here some time and it is pretty shit.

The instructors I have flown with (Mohand) is terrible, every day it is a different rule and I’ve never met anyone so rude and unprofessional. We spend the first 30 minutes of the flight on the ground with the engine running whilst he challenges me about technicality that could have been done before the flight. HE IS A BULLY and has been reported for his conduct with atc allegedly I have heard from a student from another school who heard an argument with Granada atc. He all the time complain about the other student and how terrible they are but does not understand it his job to teach.

The other instructor Jorge is more interested on his phone than teaching, I asked him questions about the run up and checklist and he just does it all himself skipping half of the checklist and rushing me into the air so he can watch TikTok’s and message friends sooner. He just want the hour to build up so he can leave.

The cost: I was quoted one price and got charged another price 35€ MORE per hour. Over time this will affect the total you pay. I talk with boss about this he said it because one plane use more fuel (only 1gallon more per hour) so about 12€ more not 35 it is a scam.

There is 2 planes, one fpq is good but with a 110kg instructor and me it was overweighted if you have more than 1/2 tank and dangerously slow.
The other plane is a shit but fast.

The boss is a bully as well in the group he will be extremely rude and bully openly students.
He is never there because he lives 2 hours away and I heard from someone he used to allegedly be a mechanic at and Cristina ( administrator) used to be a part of fly in Spain a company that closed down leading to students out thousands of Euro.
I am Spanish so I can clearly listen how speak and I’m embarrassed how this place talks about other students especially from other parts of Europe, there is no respect and this is one of the reasons why I have left and went to another schools and got my license.

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u/Low_Weekend_7332 — 10 days ago