
r/Valeton

I built a tool to measure perceived loudness of presets — curious if this is useful to others
I had a problem I suspect many of you know: record a few presets, compare them in a mix, and even with matched LUFS they sit at completely different perceived volumes. A dense crunch pushes harder than a clean tone at the same K-weighted number — the ear isn't a meter.
I spent a few months figuring out why. The short answer: LUFS K-weighting treats all frequencies equally, but the ear doesn't. A dense midrange-heavy tone triggers more loudness perception than the number suggests.
So I built something. It measures perceived loudness using a psychoacoustic Bark-band model — same principle as Zwicker's loudness model — and gives you:
- The exact dB correction to apply to each preset's output to match perceived loudness to a reference
- A timbre-only "Character" score (presence, dynamics, stereo width) separated from volume — tells you if a difference is a gain issue or an EQ issue
- Cut-through score — how well the spectrum sits in a dense mix
- 8-band spectral balance with concrete parametric EQ suggestions
- Loudness curve over time (N50 sustain / N5 peaks)
Workflow: record the same passage through each preset, drop the files in, pick a reference, press Analyze. Runs in the browser, no install.
I'm selling it but happy to answer questions about the model or the approach first. Has anyone else run into this problem and how did you solve it?
Cabinet Fr-Fr o Pa per modeler
Mi sono convertito anch’io al mondo dei modeler, attualmente uso un valeton gp-50, lo uso talmente tanto che sto accantonando la mia testata+cassa markbass. Ho visto che come opzioni per usare il modeler potrei prendere un cabinet per basso FR-FR (tipo gr bass) o un normalissimo diffusore attivo PA. Pro e contro delle due scelte? Eventualmente il PA con che cono me lo consigliate?
NAM A2
Do you think Valeton and Hotone is implementing that into the Valeton Devices?
On the NAM Website there is a Formular to send to Valeton or other companys. I did that and I hope they implement that.
Photo-dump of Valeton GP-180, GP-50, and Sonicake Pocket Master (more in comments)
Some more detailed pictures of these three pedals for anyone considering between them. Also, here is a playlist with examples of the pitch-shifting, delays, and NAM file playability of all three (plus a blind test between the GP-50's and Pocket Master's delay and pitch-shifting): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf0yKRon7f8&list=PLxMvz12ZxvCdUUGQzVFEvE-wbyXyvPI0_&pp=sAgC
I ended up deciding to keep the Pocket Master. I'm primarily plan to use it as a headphone amp, so the portability sacrifice wasn't worth it for me. The GP-50 didn't sacrifice too much portability but also didn't add many extra features, while the GP-180 added quite a few extra features but was a large portability sacrifice. If there was a GP-50-sized device with all the effects of the GP-180, I would probably have opted for that. So I'm hoping Valeton eventually upgrades the GP-50, or maybe Sonicake brings some of the extra effects to a Pocket Master 2.
Also, even though it lacked some of the delays the GP-50 and GP-180 had, I did kind of like the delays they shared best on the Pocket Master. They sounded a bit warmer to me (and I tend to prefer warmer tape-style delays). Though the delays on all three are quite good - I'm super happy with them and plan to not only replace my Mustang Micro as a headphone amp, but will also be using the PM for delay into my board and selling my EHX Grand Canyon.
USB Charge Bug? On GP-150
I was playing around the USB power setting while charging, because when it’s dead you can’t use it by USB. Even with PD. So I switch to no power and instant, and it died after a low battery warning mow it’s dead and won’t charge. I understood that setting as don’t charge others. Why would you not want to charge if your only power source is USB?
Valeton GP-50 - Windows code error 10 (This device cannot start)
Hey everyone, I just picked up a GP‑50 and the unit itself works great, but I can’t get it to connect to my PC. Windows shows a Code 10 error in Device Manager.
Firmware is fully up to date, and I’ve tried installing different Valeton ASIO drivers, but no luck so far.
I also saw people suggesting to switch the GP‑50’s MIDI setting to “USB Audio Device,” but mine is already set that way, so that didn’t solve it either.
Has anyone run into this and found a fix?
Thanks.
External footswitch(es) on GP-50
I want to use a dual footswitch to switch individual effects on and off. The manual says the GP-50 supports this, the EXT output either takes an expression pedal or a footswitch or a dual footswitch.
But how do i configure this?
In "global" i can set the EXT/FS out to DualFS _but_ it lets me configure the footswitch only as either PATCH+, PATCH- or TAP (or simply "none"). Now if i go to a sound and edit the EXP setting (global set to TAP), obviously the only parameter i get are for setting up an expression pedal (TARGET, MIN 0-100, MAX 1-100 ...) but not a switch.
Tried with 2 different dual footswitches and yes, they work just fine as dual footswitches on an amp. So it really is the GP-50 not handling dual footswitches.