r/Veganism

Hi everyone,

From what I have understood so far, exploitation of animals is absolute exploitation. No one really benefits from it as in globally we are operating in net negative gains if we account for everything together. For example-

The well known effect of inefficient land use, huge water and energy consumption is needed to unnecessarily concentrate nutrition into the animals, then expensive supply chain system, huge drug research and development to check the diseases in livestock etc is there. All of this can be done way economically if everyone shifts to a plant based diet.

My question is-

Does this observation is in any way short sighted or missing critical perspectives?

I read that not all land used to feed livestock can actually be used to cultivate grains for plant based food. Those lands are only suitable for grazing pastures. If someone has done better calculation or research I am very interested to learn more.

Hi all,

I created this website: thecostofbeef.org to promote awareness of the environmental and ethical impacts of beef consumption.

Would love some feedback from you, as this is an issue that is dear to me.

Site doesn't collect any data or information. I hope this isn't against the rules.

1714 CET: Pushed an update to add a more visual representation

Hey everyone! 🌱

I’m building a comprehensive website directory that organizes anti-vegan arguments, myths, and FAQs, providing thorough answers backed by scientific sources and data.

The goal is to create a one-stop resource for vegans preparing for debates and for curious non-vegans looking for reliable information.

I already have over 100+ questions cataloged, but I want the community's input!

Please drop a comment with one of this (or more):
\- The questions or arguments you hear most often.
\- The weirdest or most bizarre things people have said to you.
\- Your favorite go-to responses (and sources, if you have them!).

Thanks for helping build this tool! 🚀

I’m a new vegan. Officially made the change (with my consumption) in May (but held the values of veganism for about a year). As I’m becoming more vocal and unapologetic in my ‘unconventional’ beliefs, I find myself struggling with friendships more and more.

I recently cut off a newly found friend, because he refused to acknowledge that pigs are slaughtered in gas chambers as he found it offensive as a Jewish person, then went on a rant of excuses about being anaemic and needing red meat and blah blah blah.
Now today, I happened across a comment thread on instagram of another somewhat new friend (met through a close friend of ~3 years). This was on a vegan influencers post about how those complaining about the heatwave while still contributing to animal ag have no right to complain (damn straight) and this friend saying, roughly, “I will never be able to go vegan because I’m autistic and need my safe foods, and I’m complain about whatever the fuck I want!” . The comment thread beneath theirs was rightfully flaming them for their hypocrisy, selfishness, and factual inaccuracy. I then discovered a comment where they validated the dog meat market in Asia, as an attempt at a “gotcha” to demonstrate they weren’t a hypocrite.

This infuriated me. I always tell my friends and family that I do not care what they eat or wear, they at least need to acknowledge to even the tiniest extent, the damage they cause.
I mentally played through ways to handle it all day. Do nothing and silently unfollow, try talk to them either in DMs or in the comments, talk to the mutual friend we met through. After 8 hours + a stress nap, I decided to just DM them and ask straight up if they were being fr. They said they were ‘just trolling’ and will go and delete their comments because ‘no one was understanding them.’

I just don’t know how to move forward. With this friend or with any future friends similar things happen with. I truly don’t care if my friends and family are vegan. It took me 21 years to go vegan and break my cognitive dissonance so it would be hypocritical of me to flame anyone for being exactly where I was not too long ago. I’m just struggling. I can’t see people the same way anymore. The learned helplessness I see in so many other disabled people, when I could overcome it with autism, starve/binge eating disorder, ulcerative colitis, interstitial cystitis, fibromyalgia, and chronic malabsorption, is devastating to me. I want to help people have the same epiphany I did. But no one cares to.