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Diploma Advice - give up or double down?

I’m registered for diploma without really doing much research.

I am a hobbyist, absolutely not in the wine business.

I did L2 which i got merit without really opening the textbook. Then got L3 also with distinction, I mostly just listened in class and did some braisncrape 3 days before the exam to complete stuff I didn’t tknow at all like grapes or regions I frankly never heard of. Both were in person lessons.

So I ended not feeling like a real “wine connoisseur “ and just no brain opted in Diploma. My bad, I did zero research and now may regret.

1 - Ineffective online setup: Turns out Online class aren’t really classes. The few zoom calls are in impossible hours for my region.

2 - Lonely and boring : There’s no student interaction online at all. Managed to create a chat group with half a dozen people in my city. But everyone has different Ds on the pipeline and frankly group tasting are meaningless without a WSET faculty IMO

3 - unreasonable homework expectations: online homework is ludicrous , expectations on all the wine to procure and taste is frankly stupid in terms of logistics and cost unless you’re a sommelier ofc

4 - Unclear schedule : Lessons just breeze by, in fact I didn’t even know D2 started until the last email was sent

5 - No respect for our time: you get 4 mails by week with shitload of text and fluff which is obviously AI generated.

6 - lots lots lots of hidden costs: I naively thought the registration was costly but buy one cry once. Turns out you need to pay $$$ each time you take an exam. Some of them you can’t even split. For example, I passed D4 tasting but failed D4 theory so I need to do the whole thing over again and pay full price. It is quite frustrating.

In the end I only tried the D4 exam and now I have very low motivation to just swipe the card again and again to continue.

My main beef really is the online class which is just a big joke.

My options are

A: cut my losses and leave it there

B: try to find a way to motivate myself to get back in (maybe register the wine with jimmy thing or something)?

C: wait if maybe one day they start providing in person lessons in my city and do it then (they started with D4 only, it was over a weekend and it was pretty good)

Keen to hear any constructive advice from people who tried L4!

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u/Stump007 — 7 days ago
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Recommendation for WSET 3 Classroom Course European Locations

Hey all,

I am looking into doing WSET 3 sometime in 2027, either Q3 or Q4 when my pollen allergies have passed. I am based in Germany, but my local provider does not allow signing up for the course without WSET 2. The WSET London Entry Test is also not accepted as a proof that I cover the requirements, even though I passed it with 49/50.

Absolutely valid from the provider, they have their requirements and they're keeping to them. However I feel that for my case, WSET 2 is a a bit too high of a price for what it provides knowledge-wise. I have a M.Sc. in Molecular Biotechnology, so that the technical aspects of wine production do not particularly phase me as I have held exams on them already, I can understand the connections between steps, the reasons behind them and how all of that transfers to what we taste in the glass. For WSET 3 that would be helpful as I can focus on the appellations and actually putting the crazy amount of detail in context.

Ideally, I'd want to do a classroom course - for the tasting, for the company...So, can you all share your experiences with where you did your WSET 3 in Europe, were you happy with the quality of the wines you got to taste, the quality of teaching, anything else you can think of. I am more than fine with travelling if that means I'll have an enjoyable and productive experience.

Thank you and cheers!

P.S Currently looking into Grape Skills in Heidelberg.

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u/Jinnafee — 7 days ago
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Blind Tasting no. 4

Today was a fun night.

  1. 2024 Borgogne, Chardonnay

My call : 2023 Borgogne Chardonnay

Very decently made Chardonnay. Very high and crisp acidity. It showed some reductive flavors like flint at first, but calmed down towards the end. The body was nothing more than medium. I caught some generic flavors like citrus and it also had a bit of nutty flavors. The length was a bit short though which made me realize it was probably a very well crafted regional or a village level white. I went with regional.

  1. 2017 Brunello di Montalcino

My answer : 2017 Sangiovese based Super Tuscan blend

I probably should have went with my first guess which was bdm but desided to go with Super Tuscan with Cab and Merlot blended in. I don't know why but I thought I smelled a bit of peppery notes and thought there might be some Bordeaux varieties blended here. Also, I thought the acidity was a bit low and maybe a bit of merlot was blended in.

  1. 2022 Chateauneuf du Pape, Grenache, Syrah, Cinsault

My answer : 2022 Napa, Cabernet Sauvignon

I thought this one was delicious. Incredibly ripe red fruit flavors like raspberry. Actually, it was like a sweet raspberry cake. I thought it was California. The 3 choices I had in mind was Napa Cab, Santa Barbara Syrah and GSM from southern rhone(which i thought the least likely) due to its sheer ripeness and lower acidity. The tannins being very soft did not help as well. I made the leap of faith and went Napa and got it wrong. I enjoyed it blind, but after the reveal, thought it might have been too ripe even for CDP.

Overall, a really enjoyable exercise.

Comment down what you guys think!

u/Inevitable-Ad-5906 — 6 days ago