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Do you hate or love American Sniper (2014)

Do you hate or love American Sniper (2014)

I have encountered three types of people when it comes to this movie - Ones who love the film as a whole, those who hate it to their core and those who accepts that it's not a bad movie but opposes the pro American and war messages. I find myself in the third category.

As a movie, I think it's good and does it's job. The war sequences are executed well with really good cinematography and choreography. But the writing and just the whole narrative was trying hard to glorify the US military and wars. I also heard the real life person which this movie is based on isn't really a nice person as the movie portrays him to be.

u/Malluguy5382929 — 16 hours ago
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What’s the worst or dumbest inaccuracy you’ve seen in a war movie/show?

Pearl Harbor(2001) fucking sucked, and by now it’s common knowledge that almost nothing in the movie is accurate. Easily the worst inaccuracy is when they show the Japanese bombers target the hospital at Pearl Harbor. Except in real life, they avoided bombing the hospital, only one staff member was killed and the only damage was a bomb that landed in the courtyard that was most likely a misfire.

u/Sensitive_Ad_1752 — 4 days ago
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In Jojo Rabbit, if you look at Captain K’s uniform, he has seen some shit

In Jojo Rabbit if you zoom in on the details of Captain Klenzendorfs uniform you can see he has an iron cross, a second class iron cross, a bronze close combat clapse, a silver tank destroyer badge and a gold wound badge. Implying he’s basically a super soldier with dozens of confirmed kills.

u/Sensitive_Ad_1752 — 4 days ago

The Dogs of War and The Wild Geese. Which versions are you watching?

I thought this might be worth bringing up here because these are two of the great old-school mercenary movies, and depending on where or when you watched them, you may not have actually seen the same movie as someone else.

The Dogs of War

There are two main cuts:

  • American Cut: roughly 104 minutes
  • International/UK Cut: roughly 118 to 119 minutes

The International Cut is not just the same movie with a few extra shots of violence. It restores around 15 minutes, mostly in the first two-thirds of the film, and quite a bit of it develops Christopher Walken's Jamie Shannon as a character.

Among the restored material are Shannon attending the baptism of a fellow mercenary's child, more of his relationship with the kid he knows in New York, and substantially more material involving his ex-wife Jessie.

There is also additional material dealing with the nuts and bolts of preparing the operation, including the weapons shipment, dealing with the arms supplier and ship's captain, getting the cargo through Spanish authorities, and a problem with a drawbridge during the final raid.

To me, those scenes make a real difference. The shorter American version plays more like a lean mercenary action thriller. The longer version spends more time showing who Shannon is when he isn't fighting, and it gives you more of the logistical side of mounting an illegal military operation.

If you've only ever seen the 104-minute version, the International Cut is absolutely worth tracking down.

The Wild Geese

This one is a little more confusing because it does not have the same neat "American Cut versus International Cut" situation.

The complete theatrical version runs about 134 minutes. There have also been shortened television and home-video presentations over the years, with material removed for running time and censorship.

That is why people who originally saw The Wild Geese on television or VHS sometimes remember a noticeably different movie from the version available on modern discs.

One other thing that can cause confusion is that some European PAL DVDs list a running time around 129 minutes. That does not necessarily mean five minutes have been cut. A 24 fps theatrical film transferred to 25 fps PAL runs roughly 4 percent faster, so a 134-minute film naturally comes out at about 129 minutes.

Modern releases are generally the way to go if you want the full film rather than one of the old broadcast edits.

And The Wild Geese is a movie where the full running time matters. There is obviously plenty of action, but there is also a surprising amount of character material, training, politics, and discussion of exactly what these mercenaries are doing and why. Chopping it down to fit a television slot changes the balance of the movie.

I find the comparison between these two films interesting because they are often lumped together as late-1970s and early-1980s "mercenary movies," but their alternate-version histories are quite different.

The Dogs of War. There are two genuinely different cuts, and I strongly prefer the longer International version.

The Wild Geese. Look for the complete roughly 134-minute version and be wary of old TV and VHS edits.

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u/KompulsiveLiar88 — 3 days ago
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What is your favorite charge scene?

There’s a lot of contenders for greatest charge scene. Gettysburg, Waterloo, altariste. But my all time favorite has to be the storming of fort Wagner by the 54th from Glory. The greatest civil war movie ever made.

u/Sensitive_Ad_1752 — 7 days ago

My top ten Greatest war movies list

Hello, I get bored a lot and love to make top ten lists. So I decided to make a top ten greatest war movies list. Any movie about any conflict, as long as it’s a real one. The conflict has to also be a central focus of the movie, actual battles had nothing to do with Schindlers List or Life Is Beautiful so they don’t make the cut.

  1. Gallipoli 1981

  2. Apocalypse Now

  3. Downfall

  4. Zulu

  5. War Horse

  6. Deathwatch 2002

  7. Jojo Rabbit

  8. Saving Private Ryan

  9. Glory

  10. Full Metal Jacket

u/Sensitive_Ad_1752 — 7 days ago
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Which of these classic WW2 movies, that accurately depict their major events in the war, would you guys say is better?

They are relatively released a year apart from each other. Both of their events involve hundreds of planes, both have a large cast of famous actors, both showcase both sides of the armies in the conflict, and both had amazing productions and cinematography with impressive Aerial footage.

But I'm curious as to which film you guys find better.

u/BlogofHRSimile — 9 days ago

His life is one great screenplay.

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When you look through the biography and archival documents of Vasil Kvachantiradze, you realize that this is not simply dry history, but a ready-made cinematic drama — with its tension, tactical genius, self-sacrifice, and human depth.

And sometimes the most powerful scene is born not on the battlefield, but in a trench.

This excerpt is a true literary gem. It shows us that war is not only the buzzing of bullets and the thunder of artillery. War also sets people against one another — and, at the same time, brings them closer together.

Two great warriors — one from sunny Georgia, the other from distant, frozen Yakutia — understood each other through song.

In those rare moments of war, when the thunder of artillery fell silent and the snipers returned from the front line, an entirely different, almost sacred atmosphere settled in the dugout.

Here, in this narrow and damp space, it was as if the boundaries between geography and nationality disappeared.

Vasili would begin, half-whispering, the old Georgian song “Suliko.”

In his voice flowed the longing for his homeland and the sorrow of sunny Georgia.

Fyodor listened with his eyes closed.

Then, as if following this invisible bridge, he would, in turn, begin to sing — a monotonous, sustained melody, with the rhythms of the Yakut “Olonkho.”

This was no longer simply a song.

It was a conversation between two souls in the language of their ancestors.

One sang in Georgian about love and longing; the other sang in Yakut about the boundless expanses of the North.

In those moments, the war seemed to retreat.

There was no longer a front, an enemy, a trench, or the constant expectation of death.

There remained only two warriors, united not only by a shared destiny, but also by an inexhaustible love for their native lands.

These very songs were their invisible “armor” — that which strengthened their hearts like steel and did not allow them to lose their humanity in this brutal struggle.

Vasil Kvachantiradze and Fyodor Okhlopkov.

Two snipers.

Two different worlds.

Two homelands.

And one war that turned them into friends.

Perhaps it is precisely such moments that remind us that behind history there are always human beings.

And if a film about the life of Vasil Kvachantiradze is ever made, I think one of the most powerful scenes should be this one.

u/Spiritual_Remove_130 — 8 days ago
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Why The US Covered Up Japan's Deadly WW2 Human Lab Experiments - After Japan’s defeat in 1945, Unit 731’s scientists escaped prosecution through a covert deal with the United States, trading biological warfare research for immunity. US helped bury disturbing war crimes committed in China and beyond.

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u/Igennem — 10 days ago
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Lioness TV show displays completely unrealistic drone warfare. Some sources claim it’s intentional state propaganda.

u/Fatty_Willing_Plane — 13 days ago

The Story Behind WWII’s Top Sniper, Vasil Kvachantiradze’s Archival Legacy.

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Many people wonder why history seems to have remained silent about Vasily Kvachantiradze, even though, according to official documents, his records take first place. Some attribute this to his nationality, others to propaganda. ​The truth is much simpler and sadder: my grandfather, Vasily Kvachantiradze, passed away very early. Perhaps few know that during his lifetime he was at the pinnacle of recognition. ​He was a member of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the Republic, which testified to his immense authority. ​He was nominated twice for the title of Hero of the Soviet Union in 1943 and 1944. ​He was awarded the highest honors: the "Gold Star" medal and two Orders of Lenin. (It should be noted that during the war years, the Order of Lenin was an integral part of being awarded the "Gold Star" medal.) ​His name became a legend even at the front, as evidenced by numerous archived newspapers preserved in my collection. ​Few people know that his combat experience formed the basis of a military manual. The HQ of the 43rd Army published the "Sniper’s Memo," based on the tactics of the five best snipers, among whom was Vasily Kvachantiradze. Officially, he was called a "beacon warrior," and the entire front studied his unique methods. ​After his passing, a unique vacuum was formed. It is easy to forget someone who can no longer remind people of himself. Today, I am trying to bring back to life the story that he himself did not have time to finish telling. ​He wrote his page in history long ago with his own courage, his achievements, and a name that will remain forever in memory and history.

u/Spiritual_Remove_130 — 9 days ago

Obscure Russian/Soviet War Movie

I vividly remember seeing this movie in full for free on YouTube like 10+ years ago and showing it to a friend, but now I can’t find it. I was hoping someone here can help me out.

I’m looking for a Soviet (maybe Russian or Ukrainian) film about WW2. Based on what I remember the camera quality being, it strikes me as 70s or 80s, maybe early 90s. The distinct part I remember is one of the more absurd battle scenes. Soviet soldiers are defending a trench, surrounded by both enemy and friendly bodies. They look on the horizon, and here come the Germans attacking. This isn’t the distinct part. one of the Soviets looks through his binoculars and sees the Germans are attacking in line formation, Swastika flags unfurled above them, rifles shouldered. It‘s like it’s the 1800s and they’re fighting Napoleon. Predictably the Soviet protagonists kill them and win. It didn’t strike me as a comedy, it was played completely straight. Does anyone at all remember or have a guess as to what this may be?

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u/A-JJBA-Reference — 10 days ago