r/XinZhaoMains

Edit: opgg link to my account https://op.gg/fr/lol/summoners/na/Mamerz-XZhao

Hello, I've seen a bunch of people saying that Xin top is dead and I was asked on league DM to give my thoughts and insights as to why I go certain builds with certain items. I will only explain three specific builds that I usually go. This doesn't mean that they are the only builds playable. But all three of them separately (meaning i was only spamming one build at a time to test efficacity) were able to bring me to GM. Important to note that those three builds are not the most played builds, nor are the meta, but are the build i feel the most confident being able to 1v9 in lower elos, or to be competitive in high elo.

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1:Titanic Crit

Runes

Grasp scaling

Lethal Tempo aggro

Build order

Dring start -> Titanic -> LDR/MR -> IE -> Tanky items (DD, Randuins, Kaenic) Tanky Boots of choice

Spells order to max : W-Q-E (Q max because of crit scaling)

This build is a solo carry build. this is for when you need to do everything on your team, this means splitpushing, winning 1v1, assassinate enemy carry/support. frontline tank, need to do both high dps and high burst. This is a final boss build. Extremely good in low elo and against low CC comp. Only issue is that you need to play accordingly to the power spike that you get. This build is not made to win lvl 1, it's not made to win lvl 6. Power spikes are at 2 items and 3 items. Titanic Hydra is the first core item of this build because of both AA reset, and wave clear. LDR/MR second is for armor pen and crit. The reason why LDR/MR are better than BC is because of instant armor pen and the crit. Crit is very good on Xin because it scales with both Q and W(not much on w). When you crit on a Q, it crits both the damage from the spell and the attack. The rest of the build is self explanatory.

When to choose between LT and Grasp? LT is vs tanks with little to no dmg agaisnt you. Grasp is vs harder champs, notably Renekton.

Important thing to do with this build : standard combo is E-AA-Q1-Titanic-W-Q3, this is the combo with the lowest amount of downtime between attacks and spells and the highest DPS.

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2: Dusk & Dawn PTA

Runes

One of many, PTA is important and a must have Keystone, the rest is customizable

Build order

Dring -> Dusk&Dawn -> Kraken -> LDR/MR -> DD ->Bork/MagicResist

Spells order to max : W-E-Q (High AS means quick Kraken proc)

This build is for stronger early game and for those who prefer higher attack speed builds. This build is all reliant on how D&D interacts with on-hit. I won't explain it much because this is a known build for Shyvana. Only thing to note here: The powerspike is at two items, but with Dusk&Dawn, you can play battle of attrition against the enemy laner. This build has less survivability than the build above, but is extremely strong at two items and can easily snowball.

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3:Full AP

Runes

Kite/Chase runes, less dmg, but stronger if you can micro well

Very aggro early, good vs low mobility champs and need instant one shot.

Build

Dring (early Dark Seal)->Protobelt ->Gunblade ->LichBane ->Rabadon ->Mejai if ahead/Zhonya if cannot afford Mejai.

Spells order to max : E-W-Q (E max instead of W since mana changes on W. Easier to activate Stormraider, Impossible to dodge the E dmg by dashing or flashing, but vulnerable when doing so)

This is my current favorite build (Phaserush/Stormraider runes). Is a difficult build to pull off as it has little to no dps, very low dmg from attacks, it is heavily reliant on the first item. Protobelt is one of the most efficient items to buy. Very good build order, good stats. very good active. This item is core on any ap builds. There's a reason why it's bought even on ranged mages now. Early game is all about stacking Manaflowband(mana costs are too high on this champ at the moment). It's rare to win the level 1-2-3. Depends on the matchup. Weaker ranged champs are easily abusable because of easy to activate Stormraider. After getting a few ap components, you can statcheck most champs. E-W is enough to activate Stormraider on champs that don't build HP. The amount of damage that can be done with this build is insane. Good sustain outside of fights and during fights. This build order maximizes the amount of burst you can get. You get good utility from protobelt and gunblade to either chase champs or slow to escape.

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I've probably missed a bunch of things to explain, so please ask questions if you got any. It's better for me to answer specific questions than trying to explain every single playable matchups

Hello, need some help. Is this another "don't 1v1 him in jungle" matchup or am I just missing something? I just ended up using all my abilities on the clone, is there a tell or sure way to know if it's a clone immediately or is it just by guessing?

please help me im so big and all my family and 0 friends make fun of me

i have to play 10 normal games and i have to face this cancer in lane. doesnt need to cs can freeze wave and launch his spear untill it hits. zero counterplay with infinit healing.

I tried collector - IE - lord dominiks it's so expensive and terrible there's no powerspike at any point. Also very squishy.

I tried Voltiac - Collector - Titanic but if enemies buy armor good luck.

I thought about Collector - Titanic - IE but I feel like collector is just not a good first item at all. Terrible build path and no useful passive.

I'm looking for a hyper-carry fast build not a sundered - BC bruiser build. Kinda like the Volibear DnD and Navori build. Not exactly squishy but still hyper-carry.

Both u.gg and op.gg recommend w -> e -> q max even on ad xin. I get that the w still has ad scaling and E gives good attack speed, but is the q dmg that irrelevant early that it’s just used as auto reset & knock up?

The w poke dmg is nice when I gank, but once I E in, I feel like I’m doing no dmg so in an even fight with enemy jg it feels like I’m on the losing side

heya xin mains, bassically im a midlane player but when I started out I had a bit of a jungle phase and I really liked Xin but since then Ive transitioned to mid as its my main role and I missed out on playing him mid when he was busted, is he still playable?

I keep trying it out in jungle but it just seems weak to me, especially against teams with high burst. 40 minutes into my last game I only had 1000 healing from it. It doesn't give me enough sustain or tankiness for long fights, and it doesn't give me enough damage to instakill carries.

HoB with TF and traditional bruiser items just feels better to me.

Hey yall I’m a plat player here and started playing Xin last month and I love his play style (coming from a zed main)

I like playing him mid and was playing him AP until it got nerfed. I still play AP cause it’s still kinda decent.

But what are good builds for him mid lane? Other than the normal sundered sky bruiser build

I heard there’s a good crit build he uses or something like that with titanic hydra.

What builds do yall normally use? Especially for those who play him mid lane or even top of so

Ever since the last patch, i don't think i can honestly play this champ anymore, you get outscaled by almost every champ if you don't get a lead, and if you do get a lead (on top you're gonna be useless) and on mid it can work you can try carry but the amount of times i needed 2 mana on mid Xin to kill a Syndra on lvl 3-4 WHICH BTW has 2 times your amount of mana with lower spells cost at lvl 1 which is crazy. The passive i get it you can nerf it, now xin passive is almost useless, but the mana as well just makes this champ almost unplayable