r/allthingszerg

Just played against a turtle Terran on 10000 Feet. Dude literally didnt even wanna come out of his base. They took 4-5 bases (I destroyed the 5th several times but also lost a lot). I took 8 bases. I literally had creep up to his 4th base.

Basically just made 1-2 PFs for each ramp, bunch of turrets and libs and tanks and just guarded the ramp/choke points. To say I was tilted would be an understatement. I even said “ahh boring game” in all chat. I genuinely thought he was trolling.

I played ling bane then transitioned to ultras. Tried broodlords and swarm hosts too. In hindsight, I should just try to trade efficiently for an hour but it’s really tilting. I mined out most of the east and west bases too, all except for his base that’s blocked by minerals.

What am I supposed to do? I thought broods and corruptors would work cuz he doesnt make thors. He made mass ghost instead and I have no idea how to win against that. Ling bane yeah but not into tanks and PFs and libs. I made bout 8 or so swarmhosts (cuz I didnt wanna eat up all my supply on swarm hosts in case he moves out) and it does literally no damage cuz of turrets and PF and repairs. What was I supposed to do? Please help me out. This was a really really really frustrating game.

P.zs. Before anyone suggests infestors, my opponent doesnt move out. The furthest they went is to kill some of my troops parked outside their base and out of position.

This is so incredibly op in diamond and lower leagues, I’m expected to micro 5 control groups (corruptors dodging storms, attack command carriers one by one, viper energy recharge before parasitic bomb, ground army dodging storm, Queens healing army) as if I’m Serral. All that while expecting to inject and spread creep and scout and macro, before reaching to that point. Its just ridiculous. I’m about to rage quit sc2 for good.

Storm melts everything, Archons obliterate corruptors, carriers decimates everything. If by a miracle I survive to the A-move / storm army, corruptors don’t shoot ground and it’s over and Zealots warp-ins decimates everything on the ground.

Oh wow the protoss played really well, 99 APM vs me 300APM sweating my *$$ off…

Guys I am desperate, every damn game there is a Protoss rushing me on the air or a Terran doing the same but with battle cruisers, I can’t keep up, could you please give me some guidance on how to counter it? I just want to enjoy the game and not being rushed while I’m still starting the game. (I’m a new player)

Edit: thank you very much to everyone, I really appreciate all the tips and advice received, I have things to work on now, many thanks ❤️

This is so incredibly op in diamond and lower leagues, I’m expected to micro 5 control groups (corruptors dodging storms, attack command carriers one by one, viper energy recharge before parasitic bomb, ground army dodging storm, Queens healing army) as if I’m Serral. All that while expecting to inject and spread creep and scout and macro, before reaching to that point. Its just ridiculous. I’m about to rage quit sc2 for good.

Storm melts everything, Archons obliterate corruptors, carriers decimates everything. If by a miracle I survive to the A-move / storm army, corruptors don’t shoot ground and it’s over and Zealots warp-ins decimates everything on the ground.

Oh wow the protoss played really well, 99 APM vs me 300APM sweating my *$$ off…

Hello, I am casual noob player and I like to create 30+ queens in battle. Let's say I am in fight with all my queens. Is there more efficient way of transfusing than clicking T and then clicking on low hp queen every time my queen get hit? It's really hard to do this fast enough in big battles.

Sry for my english, I am not native.

I'm pretty new, started last year but took a long break. I've been watching Winter's bronze to GM from 2022, and have gotten to 2,346 MMR, and gold 3.

This match was going pretty even, Marines marauders and medivacs vs my roach Hydra. I was having a hard time pushing through his tanks on the high ground, and he also started making thors. I decided to make 2 vipers, and consumed on my gas extractors (idk if that's the best choice to consume, is there like a list of best to worst consume options?).

In the first engagement he pushed with MMM and a thor. He was starting to lose the battle, and the thor was about to get away, but I abducted it into my army and killed it. I don't think it had that much impact, but that was the first time I killed a unit with abduct. Sadly, one of the vipers died. I built 3 more to go up to 4.

Later on, I tried a push into his base and threw down 4 blinding clouds in the area. I killed all of his thors and most of his Marines, leaving only a dozen left, yet I still lost pretty much all my roaches and hydras. I still had a ton of larvae and resources left though, so I quickly remaxxed. Didn't lose any vipers too!

He went on the offensive with some Marines and medivacs. Only my roaches were done training, so I had no AA apart from parasitic bombs. I managed to land one when they packed up the Marines, which brought them down to almost no health. I managed to get off another one, which killed 2 medivacs with all hands on board.

Then, I went to deal the final blow. They had gotten back to 4 thors, but had no other support. Blinding clouds meant they didn't do much damage to my ground army, but I mismicrod my low health vipers and 3 died. After the thors died, there was nowhere near enough of his army left to defend, so he surrendered.

I'm pretty proud of keeping the vipers alive through several battles and managing to make use of all of their abilities.

Hello my fellow camrades!
I was quietly laddering today, chill and such, then I took a punch in the throat :
- 8 gateway
- Zealot charge allin
- Warping at 4m30

I know that I was a little greedy etc. but even with the right scout I honestly don't know how to counter that, or just staying alive...
I usually take a defensive roach warren at 4m, but with that timing I wouldn't possibly be ready...
The replay : https://sc2replaystats.com/download/27257848

If you have some advice to give me I'm all ears :-)
I am diamond 2, and at 40 years old I don't want to improve my APM, just to find a good response

It's really not.

The other races can get their tech while macroing and attacking.

You can't attack them because they can be fully walled off before you can even attack.

Zerg has to macro literally as hard as they can without dying to 1 adept/reaper/harass.

just to have a chance.

and then you need 90 supply of drones while they chill at 60 with better armies.

zerg is the hardest race.

I am a former top masters and wanted to share the build that got me there, I have 3 different variations that hit off different timings, this is the more macro friendly version. My goal is to disrupt the Terran build, scout what mix of units they are creating, and take map control.

This is an example against a top diamond Terran, and it is even possible to win a perfect game (no units lost) with this build. Every scan costs a Terran 200 minerals in mules, and I exploit that with this build.

Build Order:

14 Extractor
13 Extractor
15 Extractor (cancel)
15 Extractor (cancel)
16 00:42 Hatchery
15 00:46 Overlord
15 01:03 Spawning Pool
14 01:05 Extractor
19 01:49 Queen
21 01:50 Zerglings
22 01:54 Queen
24 02:07 Roach Warren
24 02:21 Overlord
24 02:25 Burrow
24 02:28 Overlord
25 02:35 Creep Tumor
24 02:46 Roach
26 02:47 Roach
30 02:47 Roach
30 02:47 Roach
32 02:53 Roach
34 03:05 Roach
38 03:11 Roach

If anyone is interested, here is where I almost pull off a perfect game against a top diamond level Terran using this build.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdbuPoCEf-c

So, I was able to not forget creep and inject in this game somewhat. And I was able to somewhat reach 49 drones in 5 minutes but only 54 drones in 6 minutes. I just want to know if what I can do more improving my inject and creeping on this game or some macro aspect. Like, is the way I take gases like too late or not thats all. It would be very helpful if anyone can point some fundamental mistakes that I need to tackle in my level still cant play rank though 3 more wins left.
I'm still focusing in injects then creep.

replay: https://sc2replaystats.com/replay/27250359

(D3) I need help with making a PLAN & analyzing this game. Made a lot of mistakes bc im not used to Natural block so I wasn't sure what to do and panicked. I got hit by this same build a couple weeks ago with no clue what to do, so knew it was going to be an annoying game. Tried to play it out even though I was far behind to see what was going on. 1-base protoss, natural block, proxy warp units, lots of small harass with random units. Fellow swarm, please send help.

1. Before, When blocked -> Take 3rd, 2x drones. This time I tried, When blocked -> SP
2. Move 2nd OL to 3rd base in case of cannon rush.
3. 3rd OL to Natural
4. Inject -> creep to try to connect bases.
5. Lings attack pylon, but too slow before he puts down Gateway-block.
6. Tried to micro to make the most out of my lings, but did it poorly.
7. I tried to skip 4min Spore to save money, but it ended up a bad move.
8. Not sure when to build army vs drone.