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Reconstruction of Tarragona (Catalonia, Spain) in the 2nd century
A Roman clay vessel depicting Venus and Mars on a ship
A Roman clay vessel depicting Venus and Mars on a ship with a Latin text meaning “Voyage of Venus”. This dates to the end of the 2nd or beginning of the 3rd century AD and is on display in the Gallo-Roman Museum of Lyon-Fourvière in Lyon, France.
The Marlborough Antinous, ca. 130–138 AD [2800x2000]
The Marlborough Antinous - a Roman black chalcedony intaglio portrait created circa AD 130–138, depicting Antinous, Emperor Hadrian's favourite. Carved from deep black chalcedony and mounted in a modern gold setting, it was formerly part of the Giorgio Sangiorgi Collection before being acquired by the J. Paul Getty Museum.
Caligula: Madness, cynic or an inevitable flaw of the system?
I do believe Caligula was self aware but vindictive person who was spiteful of his position. Historian Aloys Winterling has argued that many of his actions traditionally treated as evidence of insanity make considerably more sense if Caligula was deliberately attacking the political fiction on which the early Principate operated.
As princeps senators would have competed to flatter him, vote him honors and obtain his favor and we know Caligula hated them. Augustus was extraordinarily skilled at maintaining that fiction but I do believe it is likely that Caligula didn't care enough or was too disgusted to maintain the facade/contradiction. He didn't respect ritual and his sense of humor was spiteful, (the Jewish embassy example, a horse as consul).
Caligula's background may attest to this. As a child, he watched his immensely popular father Germanicus die, then saw his mother and brothers destroyed through a political system supposedly built on law, honor, and senatorial dignity. Later, while living under Tiberius, he survived by hiding his feelings, flattering the emperor, and carefully performing loyalty. He was a cunning with self-control and he wasn't raised to be disillusioned from the reality of the world. He learned firsthand that people often say or do whatever power requires them to say or do and was intimate with that revelation. When he became princeps and earned a title of unchecked authority at only twenty-four, the situation reversed: senators and courtiers now performed the same submission toward him that he had once performed toward Tiberius. That experience may have made him deeply cynical towards the system he ruled and especially toward an aristocracy whose claims to dignity and independence he knew were largely theatrical and instead of Caligula becoming more sympathetic, he may have become contemptuous.
I bet he wanted to push boundaries and see how far he could go. His humiliations of senators, insistence that extravagant vows be literally fulfilled was likely in my opinion a form of revenge. I bet you he was cunning enough to understand the game he was playing but spiteful enough to see how far he could stretch his authority. He didn't care for theater since he could wield himself as a dangerous force
Mostly conjecture of course and projection but I think it's fun to put myself in the little boots of other and that it's very plausible given how Caligula had demonstrated cleverness/capability early on and the insanity claims to be a sudden development. There is a saying that wealth doesn't corrupt but instead reveals the true nature of a person. Trauma/abuse is a cycle.
I find Caligula to be one of the more unusually relatable rulers. I'm prone to think he was definitely a "we live in a society" type of guy. Resentment towards hypocrisy combined with resentment toward one’s own former powerlessness.
What are your thoughts and criticisms? What are your perceptions interpretations and opinions of such an enigmatic figure?
Who ruled the area known as Rome before the Roman Kingdom existed?
I was wondering this because I thought the Romans were a mixed Latin-Samnite People before settling in the area now known as Rome or were just outcast Etruscans, help?
How important was kindness as a virtue in Rome?
One thing that’s fascinating about the study of Rome and its people is how Romans saw themselves; their place in the world and the cosmos, as well as their duties and obligations to each other.
I am aware of some of the governing principles and virtues of republican Rome (virtuus, pietas, constantia, gravitas, etc), and how Romans focused heavily on the idealization of ancestors and tradition as a guidepost to the present. Additionally, Romans also were much more focused on the “here and now” and achieving the largest amount of glory and notoriety in this life, rather than focused on any notion of a peaceful and pleasant afterlife (e.g. Memento Mori).
That being said, given some of these governing principles, was there a deemphasis/apathetic view on the virtues of kindness and compassion in Rome, or were acts of kindness and charity present, but just not written about extensively in the historical record?
I ask this because I often find myself daydreaming about the life of a typical Roman citizen who tries their best to live life to the best of their ability.
How did they think? What did they care about? What were their hopes and dreams?
These questions all frequently plague my mind.
A question: why didn’t Alexander try conquering Italy or westward, given how close Rome was (and Rome was only a local power then)?
What factors replaced the old Roman Kingdom army? Like these dudes below
These were the Old Roman Infantry during the rule of Roman Kingdom King Servius Tulius, I wanted to know what factors that got them disbanded after the last king was overthrown, like in their arms, armor, tactics and organization?
How far did the average Roman resident live from their workplace and how did they commute to work?
Maybe a silly question I know, but commuting to my job in London, taking the train, waking up, grabbing a coffee etc, got me thinking.
Was Rome in the morning just a horde of people walking to whatever market stall or blacksmith’s they worked at?
Did Caesar have to commute by foot to the forum?
What’s the deal?
saw the recent post asking about how true caligula's excessiveness was... while many roman historians wrote years after he died... we actually do have a contemporary source on caligula!
I copy pasted my answer to the post:
so basically, a lot about what we know may be exaggerated due to his lack of popularity with the senate and the fact that most of our records of him are a) decades after he died, or b) from writers who were working for the next dynasty (not julio-claudian).
BUT. we do have a contemporary account of caligula. and its actually by the alexandrian jewish theologian/philosopher Philo of Alexandria. It is called "on the embassy to gaius".
there is a story about how the jewish embassy in alexandria made a visit to caligula after he tried to install his statue in the temple of jerusalem and tried to force them to worship him. he basically makes fun of them for only worshipping one god and not worshipping him, calls them crazy, and then proceeds to ask them questions about why they dont eat pork and make fun of their diet. flexes his awesome garden and brags about all the building hes doing. meanwhile the entire jewish embassy is scared to death that he will kill them. some of them are praying under their breaths for god to show them mercy.
and the end he declares these men are innocent because they seem foolish not to worship him, and not evil. everyone is sighing in relief.
few years later they hear caligula died and philo says it must have been retribution for his insensitivity to the (obviously) one true god.
Can you translate these two texts found in ancient Callipolis in current day Mani?
Not sure if this is the right community to ask this, I'd appreciate a pointer to the right one if not.
The text seems to be Latin but in Greek symbols, possibly a transition period between the two languages?
I know the symbols are hard to read, I tried to make them more legible with my edits but it's still not easy to see
Some more photos can be found at https://maps.app.goo.gl/gZxGhCZNyN4a1tvu8
Edit: Kainepolis* not Callipolis
What happened to disabled or amputee Roman legionaries who were wounded before completing their 20-25 years of service?
Hello everyone, as the title says, I would like to know what happened to soldiers who were severely wounded or disabled in war; below are some questions I have asked myself, and I hope someone can answer them.
- What was the discharge procedure?
- How was the retirement payment calculated as opposed to those who completed the full 25 years?
- What became of those who could no longer work in the fields or perform heavy labor? Were there "lighter" jobs or administrative roles or did disabled veterans have to rely just on their families and charity?
I hope someone can clear up my doubts by providing some cool information, thanks everyone in advance.
Image is from Wikipedia, it depicts roman military doctors, detail in the Trajan's column (I thought it would be significant).
Reselling 2 colosseum tickets - Aug, 29th, 5:45 (face value)
Hello, I accidentally bought extra tickets for the Colosseum and am looking to sell them at face value (18 euros each) to get my money back. Happy to show proof of purchase/receipt before payment. DM me if you're interested!
How much of the Roman Empire was actually under direct Roman control at its peak?
Almost every map depicting the Roman Empire tends to depict a solid mass of land spanning countries and continents under direct Roman control.
Would Roman authority extend across the entire entire landmass? Or was it only across core cities/regions connected by networks of communication and trade, with large areas in the interiors and borders having little to no control by Roman authority?
Pompey is overrated.
His epithet magnus (the great) was given to him sarcastically by Sulla.
What did he actually do?
raised an army very young and got position due to it.
beat up some fodder armies and then demanded he get a triumph
got his ass kicked by Sertorius and only won after like 10 years because Sertorius got assassinated.
defeated the pirates who were a pretty significant threat but he was given literally unlimited power and resources to deal with them, anyone could have done it.
stole Luculluses command vs mithridates and finished off a weakened mithridates.
Didn't prepare properly for Caesar and panicked and lost Rome to Caesar who had like 1 or 2 legions
lost to Caesar, let himself be pressured into attacking by Senators.
went into exile and died.
He was good but not great.
2nd century gladiators mosaics from Galleria Borghese
Had he lived, could Caesar have conquered the Parthians?
Reading suggestions following Augustus by Adrian Goldsworthy
I've spent the last year trying to read through a rough timeline of events of Ancient Greece / Rome and I'm currently up to the end of Augustus' reign. Up until now there's always been a book that felt like the obvious choice to read next but I'm at a bit of a loss now.
I wouldn't mind something more overarching on the early Roman Empire rather than a specific biography, but any recommendations would be fantastic!
At first I was looking at Dynasty: The Rise and Fall of the House of Caesar by Tom Holland but I'm not that interested in going back into Augustus. His similar book Pax seems like an option but I've heard mixed opinions on his dramatization of events.
Just to give an example of what I've read so far
- Phillip & Alexander by Goldsworthy
- SPQR by M. Beard
- The Punic Wars by Goldsworthy
- Caesar by Goldsworthy
- Cleopatra by Schiff