r/brokescammers

So, I recently had a mutual friend try to recruit me for Amway. Had a few zoom calls with him and his "coach" before realising what really was going on, called them out for a few things and left the meeting. He obviously messaged back saying that he had talked with his coach and that the business opportunity wasn't for me at this time. I've never spoken to him since.

Thankfully, I got out during the selection process and never actually committed to anything. But I was wondering, if anyone here lives in Australia has experience with Amway or knows someone who has been in it, how does it actually work?

Are there fees involved and how much are they?

How do you actually make money in Amway? The guy who pitched to me said he "enjoyed that he didn't have to sell products". And when I asked about how to make money, I never got a clear answer.

What actually are Amway's products?

They made me aware of the workshops and conferences. They explained the difference between being an employee, being self employed and then having your own business and investment (the ESBI diagram). And if you're in the E and S quadrants then you are being owned by that job and being in the B and I quadrants means you have freedom. But then they said that everyday I would have to listen to some audio and read some books and also I would have to commit every Monday night to a workshop and every Friday night to either another workshop or a in person gathering, and then of course attend all the conferences. When I asked what would happen if I couldn't make every Monday or Friday night, they said I wasn't committed enough to the business. The "coach" explained she missed her cousins wedding because it was on a Friday night and she had a business workshop. And that my friends wouldn't be real friends if they planned dinners or events on Monday and Friday nights (not even caring if say Friday night was the only night they would be available). I called them out saying obviously this business owns me then if you say I HAVE to be there every Monday and Friday and they weren't happy about that.

I'm thankful I was able to get out before anything serious happened.

During the pandemic alot of people experience job losses including myself. I was doing it tough due to lack of finances. So I was in the looking zone and someone randomly approached me on LinkedIn talking about entrepreneurship, mentorship, passive income, mindset and cash flow quadrants.

I ended up meeting with them on zoom and they claimed to be retired from work at age 21 which made me more intrigue. They gave me a book by Robert Kiyosaki Business of the 21st Century and a audio to listen to prosumer power. Long story short I ended up going through the selection process, even though my process went on for like 3months. I eventually launched and stayed in the business for 4 years.

If you're currently going through the selection process and you're reading horror stories on reddit, you're right. They are very shifty and don't even want to answer simple questions like "how is the profits generated and shared to the upline but never to downline". They will isolate you from anyone who is not affiliated with Team1global. Also manipulate you to increase monthly volume to buy more products so they can profit in their pockets. They are bunch of Am-bots that look down on anyone who doesnt get involve in this cult, they have destroyed people's marriages, friendships and most of all burn through your wallet on spending overprice tickets and conferences.

They often lie and say that there is limited space so it creates a sense of urgency so it would speed up there process to get them to launch, they lie that they're super busy doing mg1, mg2 and mentoring people.

I've asked them is this a legal entity that is registered with the ATO and how much tax is to be paid when start making money and they couldn't even answer a simple question which is a red flag because you dont want to get done for tax evasion.

There were some good experiences that I'm grateful for which is the self development side of things. I've learnt to set goals and being consistent and it's helped me with my fitness journey.

The cult leader mentors often say "become a product of Team1global " if you want to be successful.

I'm a grown man that likes to read and I was sharing with my upline coach that I was reading a book called "Can't hurt me by David Goggins" and they said I shouldn't be reading books thats not from Team1global business.

Anyways thats my story. Feel free to reach out to me if you're currently doing through the selection process.