I’m a senior this year. I know for sure that I want to go into medical. I’m looking for time I can get back in my 20s by any means possible. I have a bunch of gen ed credits done. I could potentially get out of bachelors in 3 years light, 2 years maybe. Is there a benefit to me doing bsmd? I live in Kansas, and there are no BSMD programs. I would however get instate ku premed. So if I do want to go to one, it’d be OOS and I would probably end up paying an assload. What kind of financial aid can I get from a bsmd? Would I even be gaining anything by doing a BSMD? So many questions

• Central Asian, Muslim
• Ranked 11/470, 4.63 W GPA, 1430 SAT (2 sittings, will retake), 11 AP classes taken (All 5s and 4s)
• Governor's School Student (VA resident)
• 4-year research about the use of nanotechnology, nanorobots, and AI in dentistry. Not yet published, presenting at symposium in fall for school
• AP Scholar with Distinction, Academic Excellence Award all 4 years, Top 16 in HOSA Anatomage regional tournament
• ~84 shadowing hours (increasing about 18 hours a week) should easily be 100+ by the end of summer. Probable strong recommendation letter
  • Limited assisting, calling other places to get other opportunities, maybe more hands-on or specialties
  • Volunteered at free dental day + community event last year, will repeat at community event again this year
• VCU Dental Exploration Program
• Clubs: Unicef Unite, HOSA, MSA,
• 2 year violinst in school orchestra
• Soccer Referee for over 5 years
• UPchieve Academic Tutor: ~70 hours, over 50 students helped
• ENGin English Tutor: ~60 hours, with actual session tiem and planning
• Student Volunteer at Pre-health Shadowing
• Student Tutor at Tutoring Chicago (starting in fall)
• AP Bio (4), AP Gov (5), AP Precalc (5), APES (4), AP Euro (5)
  • 11 AP classes, scores for 2025 haven't come out yet, will post when it does
• Schools:
  • VCU GAP (1st choice)
  • Howard
  • Augusta
  • NJIT or other and Rutgers
  • Temple

Thank you all, I'm open to all advice and questions.

For BSMD - after Spanish 3- Spanish 4 and AP
Spanish mandatory? Am I ok if I only do till Spanish 3?

ive landed three opportunities to shadow doctors but I've found shadowing kind of boring and routine -- I don't know how people rack up more than 10 hours or so of shadowing because you're not doing anything but hovering over the doctors, right? i feel bad asking to repeatedly come in when there's nothing i can contribute and nothing that's really special outside of routine patient consultation and paperwork and such

Throwaway bc people in my life know my longtime account username, and I wanna stay private.

I'm a sophomore in a 7 yr BSMD program, meaning I'm applying now. My program binds applicants so I can't both apply to it and also apply out. Its a midtier state school (near the bottom of T50 back when US News was ranking school numerically).

The problem is that I have 80 clinical hours, so I don't think I've got a shot at getting into other schools this year. Further, while I have I've got 200 leadership and 300 nonclinical volunteer hours, an extra year would give me time to build out my application better. However, I still kind of feel like my EC's will be generic and cookie cutter.

As the title indicates, I have a 3.9, got a 520, and am ORM.

I have no idea what I want to do post med school tbh. I've seen ENT, GI, Oncology, and Nephro and thought all of it was cool. I know surgical subspecialties like ENT are brutal, so I want to make sure I'm well positioned to match into a more selective specialty if possible. However, I also don't think it's worth it to take a year off and apply elsewhere either unless my stats make a T20 acceptance likely.

I guess my question is whether my stats make an acceptance of that tier likely and if its worth it to take a year off to chase that, or if I should just stick with my current program.

Basically, in my city, we only have two hospitals. Each hospital only allows high schoolers to shadow for a maximum of eight hours. What am I supposed to do as a person interested in bsmd if I can only max 16h of shadowing before I have to submit applications?

i was never able to take physics in hs due to scheduling conflict, will this affect my chances for bsmd? for other sciences ive taken: ap bio, ap chem, apes, a&p

This is my second AP as a high school student.
( I am a rising senior)

My sophomore year 10th grade I did AP Bio and got a 3 ( mid). The exam was blood sucking tho.

Now I just finished AP Language and composition.
Lord Jesus please help me NOT to get a 3 again.😔

I’m taking 4 AP classes as a senior. AP Calculus AB, AP English Lit, AP Psychology, AP Environmental Science. I am self studying AP Chemistry with my AP chem teacher🥹💅

Do y’all think I’m competitive for T10 colleges?
4.0 UW 4.37 W
Rank 13/378
Major: Biology premed track.

Imma post my ECs later

Honest advice on my Stats pleasee. Thank you.

Demographics

• NJ resident, Asian male
• Income: ~300k (full-pay at most privates — cost/merit matters)
• Large competitive public HS; school doesn't rank, weighted GPA only

Goal: BS/MD → physician; interests in neuroscience, community health, culturally-competent care

Academics

• GPA ~4.19 weighted (all-course) / ~4.18 core; mostly A/A-
• One blemish: C+ AP Precalc S1 (teacher out for months, had gaps, recovered); a couple B's in math/sci (AP Calc AB)
• Rigor: heavy AP/honors (will have 9-10 APs by end of HS); Health Science Pathway
• SAT 1530 single sitting / 1540 superscore
• Have 5's on all AP's

Clinical / medical experience

• ~100+ hospital volunteer hours (patient guidance, records, sanitization)
• 70+ physician shadowing hours — Emergency Med, Internal Med, + dental specialists
• EMT-certified (NJ) — planning to volunteer on a squad near beginning of senior year - will prob get around 30-40 hours

Research

• Independent Alzheimer's study — secondary analysis of a public CDC dataset, self-taught stats (ANOVA, multiple regression, Pearson). Currently preparing to submit for peer review.
• Incoming summer research internship at a major cancer center - will result in a publication.
• Also worked on research with friend last year - might get it published w/ him as coauthor
• (1 manuscript heading to review + 1 project in progress - professor guaranteeing at least 1 publication)

Awards

• 2 state science fair awards (3rd in Statistics; a university psychology club award)
• NJ Seal of Biliteracy - Proficiency; NHS + Math/Science honor societies

Other ECs

• Founder, health-education nonprofit — senior health misinformation + dementia support (go to senior centers - does it count as some sort of patient interaction/clinical hours?)
• ~5 yrs weekly foreign language tutoring (underprivileged kids); cultural-events leadership; charity walkathon coordinator (470+ participants, $10K+ raised)
• HOSA, DECA (competes), Parkinson's Awareness, Bio/USABO

Essays/LORs: Strong throughline (family loss to COVID/dementia → public health → research → nonprofit → clinical/EMT). Counselor + science teacher + research/clinical mentor.

Lists (want reach/target/safety reads):

• BS/MD: TCNJ→NJMS, NJIT→NJMS, Rutgers-Newark→NJMS, Rowan→Cooper (3+4), Drexel, VCU GMED, one Albany Med program (RPI vs. Siena), Case Western PPSP
• Premed (merit-focused): Vanderbilt, WashU, Emory, U Miami, Pitt, UF, GW, Hofstra

What I care about — BS/MD (weight advice accordingly):

1. Guarantee strength — how can I actually lose the seat? MCAT-proof (GPA-only) > hard-MCAT-minimum. I'd take a solid guaranteed MD over a prestigious "maybe."
2. Cost — full-pay at ~$300K, so in-state NJ (~$35K/yr) and no-aid-needed options win.
3. Holistic fit — service/mission programs suit my profile (and soften the C+) more than stats-gated ones.
4. MCAT relief + GPA-floor difficulty — no-min MCAT and lenient/collaborative GPA-maintenance are big pluses.
5. Med-school quality/match — matters, but secondary to a secured + affordable path.

What I care about — premed backups:

1. Merit I can realistically win (since need aid = $0) or low cost outright - this is the deciding factor.
2. Grade environment — premed GPA is everything
3. Med-school placement + advising quality (committee letter, advisor access).
4. Clinical + research access (on-campus hospital keeps my momentum).
5. Then prestige/location/fit.

Questions:

1. Does the AP Precalc C+ hurt me for BS/MD, or does the profile offset it?
2. Albany Med slot - does my service-heavy profile fit Siena better than RPI?
3. Any gaps before apps open and what do you think I should go for?
4. Any pre-med schools or BS/MD's that you suggest I should apply to for higher chances?

Thanks!

Does SGU has BS MD program for 6 yrs ?
Planning to apply as plan B

Hello! I was looking for somebody that could help me edit my college essays but I see so many people claiming that they truly are the best with all five star reviews and a lot of acceptances from T20 schools. I am looking for somebody that can help me with mine (applying for BS/MD and regular). Does anybody have advice for editors who have a truly big reputation with a lot of successful students getting into BS/MD’s and T20’s? I really want the top of the top.

Obviously, I know that you need the stats and all that but I feel that I am good on that end. Thank you so much!

Asian female
Rising senior
Competitive STEM magnet high school
First‑gen immigrant (H‑4 visa) **I already know about the extra obstacles that come with this, please give me feedback on other aspects of my profile!!**

GPA: 97.854/100
SAT: 1550
Rank: Not disclosed by school
Intended Major: Biochemistry / Molecular Biology

Coursework by Grade

8th Grade

Intro to Business & Technology, Spanish I, Health, Personal Fitness.

9th Grade

9th Lit/Comp Honors, Algebra (C&C), AP US Government & Politics (5), Biology Honors, Foundations of Engineering & Technology, Intro to Healthcare Science, Intro to Software Technology, Spanish II.

10th Grade

AP Biology (5), AP Seminar (4), AP US History(4), Chemistry Honors, Essentials of Healthcare, Geometry (C&C), Human Anatomy & Physiology, Scientific Research I, Surgical Technician I, Spanish III Honors, Personal Finance & Economics.

11th Grade

Allied Health & Medicine, AP Psychology, Enhanced Advanced Algebra & AP Precalculus (C&C Honors), Pharmacy Fundamentals & Operations, Physics, Scientific Research I (continued), Surgical Technician I (continued), Gifted coursework.

12th Grade (Confirmed)

TAG Internship (Internal Medicine Clinic - 200+ clinical hours), DE English Composition I (1101), DE English Composition II (1102), AP Chemistry, AP Calculus AB, Applications of Public Health, Pharmacy TA

Clinical Experience

Internal Medicine Clinic Internship (200+ hours senior year).
Grady Memorial Hospital TELP Program - top hours award out of ~700 students; shadowed multiple specialties summers before junior and senior year.
Certified Pharmacy Technician (CPhT) through NHA
Certified Clinical Medical Assistant (CCMA) through NHA

CPR + BLS certified

Stop the Bleed Certified

Leadership & Extracurriculars

Founder & President - volunteer chapter partnered with a nonprofit focused on supporting unhoused communities (expanded to two high schools, raised $5000+).
Co‑Founder & Co‑President - Mental Health Club (monthly mental health events).
Healthcare Pathway Lead (selected to represent pathway in school; lead demos and skills).
HOSA Public Relations Secretary + competitor (top 5 region, 1st in GA, ILC qualifier).
California Tamil Academy (long‑term bilingual literacy).

Research

Scientific Research I
Actively pursuing long‑term wet‑lab placement (Emory/GT). If you know any labs, professors, PIs that have taken highschoolers in the past or are currently open to it, or even if they take a lot of undergrads at emory, GT, or GSU, PLEASEEE let me know!
Interests: cancer biology, pediatric oncology, neurogenetics, RNA biology, pharmaceutical therapies

Awards

Presidential Volunteer Service Award (Gold).
Principal’s Honor Roll (multiple years).
Georgia Honors Program Nominee - Biology.
AP Scholar Award.
Barbara James Service Award (Gold).

College List - BS/MD Programs That Accept International/H‑4 Applicants

Please lmk if you know any other bsmds that accept international students!! I haven't checked if these programs below have been discontinued or still accept internationals

• Brown PLME
• Boston University
• Case Western PPSP
• Penn State PMM
• Rutgers BA/MD
• UConn SPiM
• UIC GPPA Medicine
• University of Rochester REMS

Currently a rising senior and seeing all these kids ECS and stats who are also applying is just making me so nervous. I come from a pretty competitive area and I know my chances for these bsmd are so slim. It’s legit a crapshoot for me rn, praying that any of them would consider me as a good fit. I know I worked really hard these fours years for these programs but I just nervous that if I didn’t get it it’ll be all for nothing.

hi guys, i’m a rising junior and i think i’ll have about 170-190 clinical hours by the time of application. this includes things like being a junior cadet/explorer for my local rescue squad + hospital volunteering + shadowing, but i see a lot of people here with like 300+ and sometimes more. if i consider other stuff like research, do you think that amount of hours is enough to clear the clinical exposure expectation for most bsmd programs? if not, how many hours is a good goal to aim for?

thank you!

Currently a rising sophomore in high school, and while most labs wont accept people my age, I'm using this downtime right now to help plan out how I can make myself competitive come application season in a few years. I wanted to get some info about those who got a research position via cold emailing, because I'm a bit confused on this. If I was a professor, wouldn't I be too busy on my own work and rather give the spot to one of my undergrad students rather than some random high schooler? Basically what I'm getting at is how do I make the email stand out and attractive to the doctor. Also if anyone can recommend any places that typically accept high school volunteers(ages 15 or so) in the New York area? I'm doing a research project this summer, so should I write about that in an email to doctors/researches who specialize in that field?

Dear Dr____,

My name is ____ and I am a junior at ____ High School. I am in the process of exploring careers in healthcare and I am particularly interested in plastic surgery. I was particularly interested to learn about your background in the University of ____'s _____ program. I would love to learn about your experiences, as someone who is also aiming to pursue medicine through a BS/MD program.

Would you be willing to allow me to shadow you during a workday in the upcoming months? I would be grateful for any amount of time that you could spare, whether that is one day or a few. If you are open to letting me shadow you, please let me know what days might work for you. I would be very grateful for the experience. 

Recognizing limitations with patient privacy, I would also be open to a coffee chat or informational interview if shadowing isn't an option.

Please let me know if you need any additional information from me. Thank you for your time and consideration!

Sincerely,

_______

I am applying to colleges this year wanted to know which ec’s to put and in what order of importance

Extracurricular & Professional Involvement

Academic Tutor, School Academic Center

Provided peer tutoring in Biology, Chemistry, Geometry, Geography, Algebra, Spanish I–II, and Computer Science.

Hospital Volunteer, Surgical Department

Completed 300+ hours assisting in a local hospital’s surgical unit.

Special Needs Volunteer at School

Participated in a school organization dedicated to supporting children with special needs.

Physician Shadowing

Shadowed physicians across multiple specialties, including EMT, dermatology, and internal medicine.

Careers in STEM Member

Engineering Club Member

Medical club member

Tennis Team (captain junior and senior year)

Research Assistant, Outcomes Research Team

Endeavor Health NorthShore

Member of a hospital-based research team working alongside an infectious disease physician
Learned academic literature review methodologies, systematically evaluating peer-reviewed studies on Clinical Decision Support (CDS) systems and proprietary and public large language models.
• Critically analyzed the clinical accuracy and differences between proprietary healthcare algorithms.
• Actively participated in multidisciplinary research team meetings to discuss the accuracy of AI tools for clinical decision support.
• Partnered with the Investigational Innovation Team to gain exposure to real-world clinical decision support and emerging AI tools.
• Learned and applied basic quantitative data analysis techniques to support data synthesis for an upcoming research manuscript

Director of Events, Dermatology Nonprofit (Chicago-based, nationwide chapters)

Lead event planning and initiatives focused on dermatologic health equity, skin cancer education, fundraising, and donation drives.

Outreach Intern & Patient Stories Team Lead, Chronically Me

Selected as an intern for a global, patient-first platform serving 150,000+ members of the chronic illness community.

Independent App Development Project

Designing and developing a mobile skincare application that uses facial-scanning technology to identify common skin concerns, with the goal of publishing on the App Store.

Dr Rubin’s mini medical club

Participated in Dr. Rubin's Mini Medical School, a medical career exploration program. Attended lectures on medicine and healthcare, engaged in hands-on clinical activities, and learned about various medical specialties, and the path to becoming a physician.

I also will have my CNA license before I apply

Exciting news!!! The University of Arkansas has partnered with the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences (UAMS) to offer a new 6-YEAR BS/MD program. This program is open to all applicants, but there is a preference for Arkansas residents, followed by residents of adjoining states. A cohort of 25 students will make up the initial class, which is actually a decent number when it comes to BS/MD programs—putting it right between very small programs (Pitt, Baylor, UCincinati, etc.) and larger programs (Brown, Rutgers-NJMS, UMKC, etc.). Speaking of UMKC, it certainly seems that this new program was designed to compete with UMKC in that region for the top BS/MD applicants.

To learn more about this program, and how it is both similar and different from UMKC’s well-established, 6-year BS/MD program, be sure to read the full article on my website.

We still have at least one of our MASSIVE 25% discounts available for professional admissions advising packages. If you are an incoming senior apply to BS/MD programs—or the parent of one, be sure to schedule a free consultation to learn how to take advantage of this special discount.

hey everyone, I apologize in advance for my unclear writing. I really need help on my ecs, so I'll be grateful for any advice I can get!

stats:

- 4.0 gpa unweighted

- practice sat: 1370 (i really need help with the sat, i'm trying to get to 1550+)

- classes for junior year (i'm doing the ib diploma):

IB lang and lit HL

IB biology HL

IB math HL

IB history sl

IB spanish sl

IB psychology sl

IB theory of knowledge + core

ecs:

- kaiser permanente volunteer (wheelchair delivery volunteer, moved up to labor and delivery volunteer)

- memory care unit/nursing home volunteer

- no research and shadowing experience (this is where i need help the most, every cold email I'm sending is getting ignored)

- founder of an initiative where we make food and sell it to raise money that helps cancer survivors adjust their diet to make it healthier (sorry for the rough description but I can't put all of it online)

please give me advice!