r/canadian

i came to canada 20 years ago with my family. during the world cup match against morocco, i noticed something that really stood out. i was at a café watching the game and many people who live here, immigrants like me, were still rooting for their home countries instead of canada.

there’s nothing wrong with that, but it reminded me of something i noticed when i lived in america. integration there seemed much smoother. immigrants from nigeria, iran, and other places often seemed to become fully american, at least in their own minds.

here, i’ve met immigrants who’ve lived in canada for decades and still don’t fully feel canadian. but i’ve also met “real canadians,” people whose families have been here for generations, who don’t fully see those same immigrants as canadian either.

even when you’ve lived here for decades, speak english or french, pay taxes, and raise a family here, you’re often still described as ukrainian-canadian, iranian-canadian, or haitian-canadian instead of simply canadian. then the world cup or the olympics comes around and, for a few weeks, we’re all just canadians.

for the immigrants who’ve been here for years but still don’t fully feel canadian, what do you think is holding you back? and for those born here, what makes someone feel truly canadian to you?

There is a normalized conspiracy theory in Canadian society right now and I'm pretty tired of it. It goes like this: Our democratically elected officials conspired with our institutions to engage in targeted exploitation of few poor nations in the world, and not others. That means Justin Trudeau, hate him or love him he tried to be the most socially progressive politician on the planet, got together with our mega corporations to carry this out, and we the people wanted this exploitation. The truth is the federal government was just mostly incompetent. They adapted ideology that was handed to them by American consultancy firms like MacKinsey, BCG, and political think tanks to create PR that would back themselves into a corner. Now Trudeau, of all people, is arguing for cultural assimilation. So let's tackle what happens to these immigrants:

In their country, proven by the CBC, there are pipelines that groom people to exploit the Canadian immigration systems. When they arrive here they usually arrive in a cultural enclave that is demographically filled with them and is represented federally, provincially, and municipally by politicians in that demographic. Their immigration lawyers, consultants, and influencers teach them immediately how to find loopholes (exploit) in the Canadian immigration system. Their business owners and franchise owners (important here because fast food are franchises) Their landlords then rent to them. Their hiring managers and franchise owners then exploit their labour.

Some of you might say "Well CaptainMooseKnuckles, you can't prove that using statscan!" Because the Trudeau administration stopped taking demographic data like that.We are only allowed to keep with a narrative that Canada is engaging in systemic racism; which is offensive. Arguably the most socially accepting country on the planet, and now we're racist, but I digress. There are some stats in Canada about this, but we can conclude this from other countries like the US who is going through the same H1b exploitation networks, the Aussies, international consortiums like the UN and IMF, and the UK. We can point to cultural behaviours just as easily as we can point to our own. Even though all of that information exists, I'd be banned for sharing it.

The framing of total victimhood around this has nothing to do with us. Nothing. Zero. We did not engage in colonialism with those countries. We didn't do anything systemically oppressing these people. Those are narratives to democratically stop discourse so voters can't even communicate in public to have a chance at actually patching up the immigration system appropriately. Not only that, but we're pretty manipulated by an American platform that doesn't allow for us to communicate the intricacies of our own immigration system because it probably now uses AI to establish its own rules for discourse platform wide.

The brunt of this nonsense has been felt by actual Canadians. We were shamed and called racist during the pandemic until subtle discourse about immigration became acceptable "There's not enough houses or work." Now its "Poor immigrant that came here and got exploited by us Canadians." Our refugee claims exploded after immigration standards got stricter, but oh well.

This is the biggest censorship campaign that has ever existed. Again you don't even need stats from our institutions they exist from credible institutions. If you feel inspired to learn more about their social customs you can watch YouTube videos, if you feel you can't trust YouTube videos you can fly there and a have a nice vacation stay.

Which brings me to the real racists here. The real racists are those who imposed an ideal on people that they would come here and just adapt to Western Liberal Democratic ideals without question. That they'd share the same sentiment about the very things that progressives care about like LGBTQ and women's rights. There's a solid group in this country that treated immigrants as beneath them as if they weren't rational actors. You sheltered them from any social criticism because it met your needs. You weaponized tokenism to try and cultivate a country under a new performative progressive ideal that has now failed. We're now censored from discourse, and cultural criticism is something Canada engages in whenever we need to vote on things that worked and didn't. It's built into every well functioning democracy, and we're not even able to talk about how a few cultures are impacting Canadian culture out of this racist protection and infantilization that these progressives have engaged in.

You didn't do anything wrong. We didn't do anything wrong but elected a totally incompetent government. That's all that happened. We've absolutely destroyed immigration for those who came here lawfully without exploitive practices. There's now a perverse incentive in our system to only immigrate people here that are willing to exploit. We're cooked, but I'm here to refuse any narrative that comes our way about some hidden racist core that exists in every Canadian that will elect leaders that will conspire with our institutions to engage in conveniently well targeted campaigns of exploitation.

I'm personally tired of this getting contorted and doubled down on to promote the exact same rhetoric filled ideology that got us here.

Important Edit

Guys, I can't drop links here without being banned on Reddit. I am literally restricted from making any arguments to support any of this. I find this conspiracy theory so insane and easy to disprove because it's not just happened to Canada. It's very established well understood pattern of behaviour. I will not be arguing with anyone, because I can't. You win. You want me to argue? Get the mods of Reddit and the sub to let me drop links.

This demand is from someone who insults Canadians every time he opens his mouth. Ramp up our boycott of US products and services!

Hello everyone,

I'm a 26-year-old father from Belgium, and over the last few years I've been thinking seriously about moving abroad to build a better future for myself and my young daughter.

I was born and raised in Belgium, but my mother is from another country. Growing up between two cultures created a lot of identity conflicts, and I've never really felt like Belgium was truly home. Because of that, I've been searching for a country where I can genuinely build a life and feel like I belong.

Canada has always been one of the countries that interested me because of its multicultural society, beautiful nature, and reputation for being welcoming. I enjoy an active lifestyle, love the outdoors, and I'm looking for a place where I can work hard, contribute to society, and raise my daughter in a safe environment.

I know no country is perfect, so I'm not looking for people to convince me to move there. I'd simply like honest opinions from people who actually live in Canada.

Do you think Canada is still a good place to build a long-term future?

Which provinces or cities would you recommend for someone looking for job opportunities, safety, affordability, and a good quality of life?

How is life for young families?

What are the biggest downsides that foreigners often don't realize before moving?

I'd really appreciate honest answers, whether they're positive or negative. Thank you for taking the time to read my post!